HC Deb 17 November 1927 vol 210 cc1157-68

Amendment proposed: In page 13, line 5, at the end, to insert the words: (2) In the case of a conviction on indictment, the Court, in addition to imposing any such fine as aforesaid,— (a) where the offender is a renter, may on a third offence order that his licence be revoked, and may order that no licence shall be issued to him, or to any person with whom he is financially associated, or to any person who acquires his business, or to any person who took part in the management of his business and was knowingly a party to the offence, for such period in each case as may be specified in the order; Provided that where any such order is made the order shall not operate so as to prevent the renter carrying out for a period not exceeding six months any obligations under any contract entered into by him before the institution of the proceedings; (b) where the offender is an exhibitor may on a third offence order his licence under this Act in respect of the theatre with respect to which the offence was committed to be revoked, and may order that for such period in each case as may be specified in the order no licence in respect of that theatre shall be issued to him or to any person with whom he is financially associated, or to any person who took part in the management of his business and was knowingly a party to the offence, or to any person whose licence in respect of any theatre has been revoked during the twelve months previous to the date of the conviction."—[Sir C. Oman.]

Question again proposed, "That those words be there inserted in the Bill."


I hope it will not be necessary to debate the Amendment at any very great length, but there are one or two things that need to be said on it. First of all, after the President of the Board of Trade had first opposed an Amendment to delete the Clause he agreed that there should be a free vote of the Committee. The result was rather startling. Of the 23 members of the Conservative party who took part in the Division, 17 voted against the Amendment now moved and only six in favour. I hope the House will take into full consideration the views then freely expressed by the Conservative Members in Committee and will not allow their decision to be reversed. The next point I want to put is this. I do not think there is any precedent at all in our English Statutes under which a man could not only be prosecuted and fined heavily but have his licence taken away from him for refusing to sell to someone else something he does not want to sell, and that really is what would be the result of adopting this Amendment. It is as if, in the licensed victuallers trade, a man refused to sell Ind Coope's Ale because he particularly wanted to sell Bass's, and he would then be liable not only to a penalty but also to have his licence taken away and prevented in future from getting a livelihood. That is the sort of thing that would happen if this penalty came to be imposed.

I do not want to say any more to show the ridiculousness of the Amendment. I only say to members of the Conservative party that they would do very well to support their colleagues who came to this decision in Committee unless they wish to jeopardise the whole of the cinematograph exhibitors' side of the business. I have had a large number of consultations on the matter with those interested, and the whole trade is dead against such a drastic penalty being imposed as to take away a man's licence and prevent him subsequently from earning a livelihood. I hope in the interests of the industry and of the reputation of the party opposite in the country that they will not adopt the Amendment.

4.0 p.m.


The hon. Gentleman now speaks of the whole trade. Up to this point he has only assumed the right to speak for a section of the trade. The offence in question is one committed accidentally against the central principle of the Bill, and that is the infringement of the quota provisions. We are to have a free vote on this question, and, perhaps, I may be permitted to remind hon. Members of the main arguments in favour of this penalty. In the first place, it is permissive, and, in the next place, it can be inflicted only by the High Court on indictment and only on the third offence. As an hon. Member very well put it the other night, it is no good having a penalty unless you make that penalty effective. It is no good having an insufficient penalty when you are dealing with persons and corporations such as are dealt with in this Bill—people who will not think anything of a penalty of £500. If their licence be revoked, then it becomes a very serious matter for them. With reference to the small man who may suffer under this Clause, I should like to point out that it must be remembered that the penalty would only be inflicted on a third offence. As the hon. Member for Oxford University (Sir C. Oman) said, if a man cannot manage his business so as to avoid repeating an offence of this kind, then he deserves to be put out of business. With regard to the voting on this point upstairs, I am told that it was very greatly influenced by the approach of the lunch hour. We had had a long Debate on other points, and I do not think this point was sufficiently discussed or that its importance was realised. I hope that the House will support this penalty which deals with the central principle of the Bill that establishes the quota.

Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY

This Amendment was moved by the hon. Member for Oxford University (Sir C. Oman) late at night on Tuesday, in a speech which, coming from one whom we are rather proud of in this House as a great historical authority, showed the extraordinary qualities of what I may call xenophobia. He attempted to influence hon. Members on his own side of the House to vote by talking of certain classes of wealthy proprietors of picture palaces and then going on to talk about foreigners and foreign opposition to the Bill. Those hon. Members present in the House knew that the longer the hon. Member for Oxford University spoke the more vehement he became on this matter. He attempted, in particular, in a way that I repeat surprised me very much indeed, to exploit anti-foreign feeling. The people who will be injured in this matter are not foreigners at all; they are the proprietors of British picture houses, and I think it is unfair of the hon. Member, in view of the position he holds in this House, to appeal to the primitive instinct of hatred in a matter of this sort. The hon. Member's speech was a model of what a speech in Parliament, or, in fact, in any other assembly, should not be. I think it is most unfair to bring in the foreign question when the people mostly concerned are the proprietors of cinema theatres up and down the country.

It is all very well for the hon. Member for Windsor (Mr. Somerville) to say that the Division upstairs took place just before the lunch hour, and so on. I had not the privilege of being on the Committee, but I have been reading the OFFICIAL REPORT, and I see that the hon. and gallant Member for Salford West (Lieut.-Commander Astbury), whom I will remind the House is interested in the business and he is also a leading authority and a King's Counsel—I am sorry he is not in his place now—made an appeal to his party not to pass this Amendment. I will not trouble the House with his words, but apparently they had some effect, because I am now going to read out some of the names of the Conservative Members of the Committee who voted against the hon. Member for Oxford University on that occasion. Here they are—the hon. Member for Stroud (Sir F. Nelson), the hon. Member for Rutland (Mr. Smith-Carington), the hon. Member for Sevenoaks (Captain Styles), the hon. and gallant Member for Hertford (Rear-Admiral Sueter), the hon. and gallant Member for Enfield (Colonel Applin), the hon. and gallant Member for Salford (Lieut.-Commander Astbury), the hon. Member for Berwick and Haddingtonshire (Colonel Crookshank), the hon. Member for Royton (Dr. Davies), the hon. Member for Penrith and Cocker-mouth (Mr. Dixey), the hon. Member for Portsmouth Central (Sir H. Foster), the hon. Member for Eye (Lord Huntingfield)—who was in his place a moment ago, and is Parliamentary Secretary to the President of the Board of Trade—the hon. Member for East Toxteth (Mr. Jacob), the hen. and gallant Member for Bromley (Lieut.-Colonel James), the hon. Member for Yardley (Mr. Jephcott), and the hon. and gallant Member for the Isle of Wight (Captain Macdonald). Where are all those hon. Members now? Are they going to be overridden by an hon. Member having a second shot on the Floor of the House? Some years ago I got into trouble for trying to do the same thing that the hon. Member for Oxford University is trying to do now. I was in charge of a Bill, and we came to a decision upstairs, and afterwards the people who were interested in the Bill persuaded me to try to get the decision reversed on the Floor of the House. I was taken to task, and the Bill was wrecked simply because I was trying to do in my foolishness what the hon. Member is trying to do in his wisdom.


This is not the same Amendment as the one taken upstairs. The offence has to take place three times instead of only once. It alters the whole thing.

Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY

I do not think that that alters the principle. It does not affect the principle of the Bill, and the principle is this, that if you take away a man's livelihood you take away his life. If you say that these men are not to pursue their vocations, it will be a terrible penalty. It is really unfair and un-English that these sort of penalties should be allowed. We have always tried to avoid in our Common Law, however bad an offence may be, saying that a man shall not be prevented from working in his business.


What about the licensed victualler?

Lieut. - Commander KENWORTHY

The licensed victualler is very rarely proceeded against in this way. There are very few cases indeed. I will tell the hon. and gallant Gentleman that his party have, in the past, fought against this very penalty being applied to the licensed victuallers. Why do they approve of it being applied to unfortunate exhibitors and renters—because it is not to apply to producers of films. The hon. Member for Oxford University is an ornament of a great company that has been formed for the production of films, but it does not apply to him. His Amendment does not apply to producers of films, but only to renters and exhibitors. I am afraid the hon. Member's xenophobia has permitted him to inflict that injustice. Those hon. Members on the Committee upstairs who, after hearing the discussion, voted against this very thing should at least tell their colleagues who will presently come in great numbers from every part of the House and various Committees what is really before the House now. Otherwise, Members will come in, will see which is the Conservative Lobby, and in they will go. The hon. Member for Oxford University will be standing majestically in the doorway telling them which way to go. I ask hon. Members to see to it that those Members are told that this is an attempt to reverse a decision which was supported by an overwhelming majority of the Conservative Members of the Committee.


The hon. and gallant Gentleman the Member for Central Hull (Lieut.-Commander Kenworthy) has said that I am guilty of xenophobia. I am not in the least guilty of xenophobia; I am guilty of "xeno-filmophobia," which is to say, I very much dislike foreign films, and the result of my Amendment will be that exhibitors will take less foreign films because of the penalties impending on them if they do not take more British films. I received to-day a strange circular from a body of film producers, or rather I should say, of owners of picture palaces, saying: "You are going to compel us to buy stuff we do not want." That is what we want to prevent. To say that we are hitting producers or renters or anything of that kind is not representing our purpose properly; we are hitting foreign films.

Colonel DAY

The hon. Gentleman who has just sat down has told us about a letter he has received from exhibitors stating that if this Bill passes the exhibitors will be made to buy something they do not want. I do not think he has quite conveyed to the House—I am not going to labour the point—a correct definition of the letter or the correct meaning of it. The exhibitors, I would like to state, intend to suggest that we are endeavouring to make them buy something that the public themselves do not want to see. It is not a matter for the exhibitors. There are no more loyal body of men in the country than the exhibitors, and if at any time they can take British films they are only too delighted to do so. But, they do not want to have to take films that do not suit the public, and there are certain films that have been produced that the public will not pay their money to see. I sincerely trust that the Members of the House will take that point into consideration when they vote on this Amendment.


Is not the Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Trade (Sir B. Chadwick) going to make any reply? May I ask the Parliamentary Secretary whether, in view of the fact that no less than 23 Members of his own party voted in favour of the deletion upstairs in Committee, he has given any reconsideration to the position of the Government?


I was not going to reply, because I thought the situation was so clear, and my right hon. Friend has already said he will leave the decision to a free vote of the House. The situation is perfectly clear as to whether the heavier penalty should be included in the Clause. I say now, as I have been asked to express my opinion, that as it is a free vote of the House, I am not going to abstain. I am going to vote for the Amendment, because I believe it is very true that in these cases you are applying this penalty to a class of people in regard to whom the imposition of an insignificant penalty would really make the Measure inoperative.


On a point of Order. On the one occasion upon which we discussed this the President of the Board of Trade announced that it would be decided by a free vote of the House and that, because he wanted it to be made clear to every Member that it was a free vote, he himself proposed to abstain from casting a vote either way. Is it in order for the Parliamentary Secretary representing the same Department now to get up and announce that he intends to vote for the Amendment?


I think it is rather a pity that the hon. Member drew the Parliamentary Secretary.


Penalties are rather a technical matter, and we are entitled to ask for the guidance of the Law Officers when you come to manufacture new penalties, new punishments for new offences. The experience of Courts of Law ought to be a guidance. I rise largely because of the remarkable speech of the hon. Member for Oxford University (Sir C. Oman). I am one of those who feel great veneration and respect for all places of learning, and when a Uuniversity Member takes part in a discussion I feel a natural respect for what he says. The hon. Member for Oxford University justified his Amendment on the ground that he hates all foreign films. That is a remarkable doctrine.


I did not say "all" foreign films.


I will leave out the word "all" and say "foreign films." I hope he is not going to apply the same doctrine to the use of books and to exclude from his place of learning the study of Virgil, or Xenophon or Homer. Is he going to suggest that students in the Universities are not to be allowed to study any books except English history books written by English Members of Parliament?


On a point of Order. Is this not rather wide of the Amendment?


The hon. Member for South-West Bethnal Green (Mr. Harris) was not here, I think, in the earlier part of the Debate, when we discussed this very fully. This Amendment is a question of penalty for a third offence.


I would not have intervened except for the second speech of the hon. Member for Oxford University. Of course, he is speaking with all his influence as a professor of learning. I do not know, however, how far his doctrine of foreign films went. How about books? English authors are suffering a very lean time at present because of the difficulty of publishing their books and——


This is going back on the main part of the Bill which has been disposed of.


I only wish to say that the learned professor representing Oxford University has put forward on the Floor of the House a doctrine which is thoroughly pernicious, and certainly a very bad guide to other Universities, younger and apparently more enlightened than the University he represents in this House.


The hon. Member for Oxford University (Sir C. Oman) has told us he hates foreign films. I understand he is now connected in a prominent way with the production of British films. I should like to get from him a definition as to what British films consist of. I understand that an hon. Member in Committee explained that a rather famous British film, which people were invited to see because it was a British film, was actually produced in Nice by French supers dressed in British uniforms hired in Germany, and that it was produced by an American. A Conservative Member in the Committee, I think, gave the illustration, and I should like to know from the hon. Member for Oxford University whether he would call that a British film, and whether British producing firms are going to be prevented under a Clause in this Bill from working that kind of hocus

pocus on the British public. If the Amendment I moved the other night had been accepted, every film would have been labelled, and that sort of thing might have been prevented; but the whole thing is typical of the attitude of the Conservative Government. I would like to know what the hon. Member for Oxford University describes as a British film.


The definition comes in Clause 26, which has still to be discussed. I would remind the House that we are working under an arrangement, and it is very important that Clause 26 should be discussed. I hope, therefore, the House is prepared now to go to a Division on this Amendment.

Question put, "That those words be there inserted in the Bill."

The House divided: Ayes, 226; Noes, 132.

Division No. 344.] AYES. [4.22 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut Colonel Couper, J. B. Hartington, Marquess of
Agg-Gardner, Rt. Hon. Sir James T. Courthope, Colonel Sir G. L. Harvey, G. (Lambeth, Kennington)
Ainsworth, Major Charles Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes)
Applin, Colonel R. V. K. Crookshank, Cpt. H. (Lindsey, Galnsbro) Haslam, Henry C.
Apsley, Lord Curzon, Captain Viscount Hawke, John Anthony
Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wllfrid W. Dalkeith, Earl of Headlam, Lieut.-Colonel C. M.
Astbury, Lieut.-Commander F. W. Davies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil) Henderson, Capt. R. R. (Oxf'd, Henley)
Atholl, Duchess of Davies, Sir Thomas (Cirencester) Henderson, Lt.-Col. Sir V. L. (Bootle)
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Davies, Dr. Vernon Hennessy, Major Sir G. R. J.
Balniel, Lord Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) Hills, Major John Waller
Barclay-Harvey, C. M. Dean, Arthur Wellesley Hilton, Cecil
Barnett, Major Sir Richard Drewe, C. Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G.
Barnston, Major Sir Harry Eden, Captain Anthony Hope, Capt. A. O. J. (Warw'k, Nun.)
Beamish, Rear-Admiral T. P. H. Edmondson, Major A. J. Hopkins, J. W. W.
Beckett, Sir Gervase (Leeds, N.) Edwards, J. Hugh (Accrington) Hopkinson, Sir A. (Eng. Universities)
Bellairs, Commander Carlyon W. Ellis, R. G. Horlick, Lieut.-Colonel J. N.
Bennett, A. J. Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-s-M) Howard-Bury, Colonel C. K.
Berry, Sir George Erskine, James Malcolm Monteith Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.)
Bethel, A. Evans, Captain A. (Cardiff, South) Hudson, R. S. (Cumberl'nd, Whlteh'n)
Betterton, Henry B. Everard, W. Lindsay Hume, Sir G. H.
Bourne, Captain Robert Croft Fairfax, Captain J. G. Huntingfield, Lord
Bowyer, Captain G. E. W. Falle, Sir Bertram G. Hurd, Percy A.
Braithwaite, Major A. N. Falls, Sir Charles F. Inskip, Sir Thomas Walker H.
Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William Clive Fermoy, Lord Jackson, Sir H. (Wandsworth, Cen'l)
Briscoe, Richard George Finburgh, S. James, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert
Brittain, Sir Harry Foxcroft, Captain C. T. Jephcott, A. R.
Brocklebank, C. E. R. Fraser, Captain Ian Kennedy, A. R. (Preston)
Broun-Lindsay, Major H. Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. King, Commodore Henry Douglas
Brown. Brig.-Gen. H.C. (Berks, Newb'y) Galbraith, J. F. W. Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement
Buchan, John Garro-Jones, Captain G. M. Knox, Sir Alfred
Bullock, Captain M. Gates, Percy Lamb. J. O.
Burman, J. B. Gibbs. Col. Rt. Hon. George Abraham Lane Fox, Col. Rt. Hon. George R.
Burton, Colonel H. W. Gllmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John Leigh, Sir John (Clapham)
Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward Glyn, Major R. G. C. Locker-Lampson, G. (Wood Green)
Cautley, Sir Henry S. Goff, Sir Park Long, Major Eric
Cayzer, Maj. Sir Herbt. R. (Prtsmth. S.) Gower, Sir Robert Looker, Herbert William
Cazalet, Captain Victor A. Grace, John Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh Vere
Chadwick, Sir Robert Burton Grant, Sir J. A. Luce, Maj.-Gen. Sir Richard Harman
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Ladywood) Grattan-Doyle, Sir N. Lumley, L. R.
Chapman, Sir S. Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John MacAndrew, Major Charles Glen
Charterls, Brigadier-General J. Grotrian, H. Brent Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.)
Christie, J. A. Guinness, Rt. Hon. Walter E. MacIntyre, Ian
Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer Gunston, Captain D. W. McLean, Major A.
Churchman, Sir Arthur C. Hacking, Captain Douglas H. MacRobert, Alexander M.
Clarry, Reginald George Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) Makins, Brigadier-General E.
Cobb, Sir Cyril Hall, Capt. W. D.A. (Brecon & Rad.) Margesson, Captain D.
Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Meyer, Sir Frank
Cohen, Major J. Brunel Harland, A. Mitchell, S. (Lanark Lanark)
Colfox, Major William Phillips Harmsworth, Hon. E. C. (Kent) Mitchell, W. Foot (Saffron Walden)
Cope, Major William Harrison, G. J. C. Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. B. M.
Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C. Sanders, Sir Robert A. Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Morrison, H. (Wilts, Salisbury) Sanderson, Sir Frank Turton, Sir Edmund Russborough
Murchison, Sir Kenneth Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D. Vaughan-Morgan, Col. K. P.
Nall, Colonel Sir Joseph Savory, S. S. Ward, Lt. Col. A. L.(Kingston-on-Hull)
Nelson, Sir Frank Shaw, R. G. (Yorks, W.R., Sowerby Waterhouse, Captain Charles
Nicholson, O. (Westminster) Shaw, Lt.-Col. A. D. Mcl. (Renfrew, W) Watson, Rt. Hon. W. (Carlisle)
Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hn. W. G. (Ptrsf'ld.) Shepperson, E. W. Watts, Dr. T.
Nuttall, Ellis Simms, Dr. John M. (Co. Down) Wells, S. R.
Oakley, T. Skelton, A. N. White, Lieut.-Col. Sir G. Dalrymple-
Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William Slaney, Major P. Kenyon Williams, A. M. (Cornwall, Northern)
Penny, Frederick George Smith, R. W. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, C.) Williams, Com. C. (Devon, Torquay)
Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) Smith-Carington, Neville W. Williams, Herbert G. (Reading)
Perkins, Colonel E. K. Smithers, Waldron Wilson, R. R. (Stafford, Litchfield)
Perring, Sir William George Somerville, A. A. (Windsor) Winby, Colonel L. P.
Power, Sir John Cecil Spender-Clay, Colonel H. Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Price, Major C. W. M. Sprot, Sir Alexander Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl
Radford, E. A. Stanley, Lieut.-Colonel Rt. Hon. G. F. Wolmer, Viscount
Raine, Sir Walter Storry-Deans, R. Womersley, W. J.
Rawson, Sir Cooper Stott, Lieut.-Colonel W. H. Wood, E. (Chest'r, Stalyb'dge & Hyde)
Remnant, Sir James Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser Wood, Sir Kingsley (Woolwich, W.)
Rhys, Hon. C. A. U. Sugden, Sir Wilfrid Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L
Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'y) Tasker, R. Inigo. Yerburgh, Major Robert D. T.
Ropner, Major L. Templeton, W. P.
Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) Thom, Lt. Col. J. G. (Dumbarton) TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Salmon, Major L. Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South) Sir Charles Oman and Viscount Sandon.
Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir W. Mitchell-
Sandeman, N. Stewart Titchfield, Major the Marquess of
Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) Hartshorn, Rt. Hon. Vernon Salter, Dr. Alfred
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Hayes, John Henry Scrymgeour, E.
Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') Henderson, T. (Glasgow) Scurr, John
Ammon, Charles George Hirst, G. H. Sexton, James
Attlee, Clement Richard Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston)
Baker, J. (Wolverhampton, Bilston) Hore-Belisha, Leslie Shepherd, Arthur Lewis
Baker, Walter Hudson, J. H. (Huddersfield) Short, Alfred (Wednesbury)
Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) Hutchison, Sir Robert (Montrose) Smillie, Robert
Barnes, A. Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) Smith, H. B. Lees (Keighley)
Batey, Joseph John, William (Rhondda, West) Smith, Rennie (Penistone)
Beckett, John (Gateshead) Johnston, Thomas (Dundee) Snell, Harry
Bondfield, Margaret Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) Snowden, Rt. Hon. Philip
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. Kelly, W. T. Spoor, Rt. Hon. Benjamin Charles
Brown, Ernest (Leith) Kennedy, T. Stamford, T. W.
Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M. Stephen, Campbell
Buchanan, G. Kirkwood, D. Stewart, J. (St. Rollox)
Cape, Thomas Lansbury, George Sullivan, J.
Charleton, H. C. Lawrence, Susan Sutton, J. E.
Cluse, W. S. Lee, F. Taylor, R. A.
Connolly, M. Lowth, T. Thorne, G R. (Wolverhampton, E.)
Cooper, A. Duff Lunn, William Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
Cove, W. G. MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Aberavon) Thurtle, Ernest
Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities) Mackinder, W. Tinker, John Joseph
Dalton, Hugh Maclean, Neil (Glasgow, Govan) Varley, Frank B.
Davies, Evan (Ebbw Vale) Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I. Viant, S. P.
Day, Colonel Harry Malone, Major P. B. Wallhead, Richard C.
Dennison, R. March, S. Walsh, Rt. Hon. Stephen
Duncan, C. Mitchell, E. Rosslyn (Palsley) Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline)
Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) Montague, Frederick Watts-Morgan, Lt. Col. D. (Rhondda)
England, Colonel A. Morris. R. H. Webb, Rt. Hon. Sidney
Evans, Capt. Ernest (Welsh Univer.) Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Josiah
Fenby, T. D. Murnin, H. Wellock, Wilfred
Flelden, E. B. Naylor, T. E. Welsh, J. C.
Gibbins, Joseph Oliver, George Harold Westwood, J.
Gillett, George M. Owen, Maier G. Wheatley, Rt. Hon. J.
Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) Palin, John Henry Wiggins, William Martin
Greenall, T. Paling, W. Williams, Dr. J. H. (Llanelly)
Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan) Williams, T. (York, Don Valley)
Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) Potts, John S. Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow)
Groves, T. Rees, Sir Beddoe Windsor, Walter
Grundy, T. W. Riley, Ben Wright, W.
Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) Ritson, J. Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton)
Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland) Roberts, Rt. Hon, F. O.(W. Bromwich)
Hardie, George D. Robinson, W. C. (Yorks, W.R., Elland) TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Harris, Percy A. Rose, Frank H. Mr. B. Smith and Mr. Whiteley.

I beg to move, in page 13, line 6, to leave out Subsection (2).

If the House will turn to Clause 30 of the Bill they will find that these words are inserted in that part of the Bill. There is no necessity for them here.

Amendment agreed to.