HC Deb 28 June 1927 vol 208 cc325-9

Motion made, and Question proposed, "That the Clause stand part of the Bill."

Miss WILKINSON

Can we have some explanation from the Financial Secretary as to what is meant by sweets in this case. I know it does not mean sweets of the feminine sort such as chocolates or eatables, but I would like to know if the term includes as sweets such things as unfermented fruit juice and wines.

Mr. McNEILL

The word "sweets" has been defined under the Finance Act of 1910, as follows:

Division No. 222]. AYES. [9.12 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Cope, Major William Harland, A.
Agg-Gardner, Rt. Hon. Sir James T. Couper, J. B. Harrison, G. J. C.
Albery, Irving James Courthope, Colonel Sir G. L. Hartington, Marquess of
Alexander, E. E. (Leyton) Croft, Brigadier-General Sir H. Harvey. Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes)
Alexander, Sir Wm. (Glasgow, Cent'l) Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) Haslam, Henry C
Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. Crookshank, Cpt. H. (Lindsey, Gainsbro) Hawke, John Anthony
Applin, Colonel R. V. K. Cunliffe, Sir Herbert Headlam, Lieut.-Colonel C. M.
Apsley, Lord Dalkeith, Earl of Henderson, Lt.-Col. Sir V. L. (Bootle)
Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W. Davidson, Major-General Sir J. H. Heneage, Lieut.-Col. Arthur P.
Astbury, Lieut.-Commander F. W. Davies, Sir Thomas (Cirencester) Henn, Sir Sydney H.
Atholl, Duchess of Davies, Dr. Vernon Hennessy, Major Sir G. R. J.
Atkinson, C. Dawson, Sir Philip Hills, Major John Waller
Balfour, George (Hampstead) Dean, Arthur Wellesley Hilton, Cecil
Balniel, Lord Dixon, Captain Rt. Hon. Herbert Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G.
Burnett, Major Sir Richard Drewe, C. Holt, Captain H. P.
Beamish, Rear-Admiral T. P. H. Eden, Captain Anthony Hope, Capt. A O. J. (Warw'k, Nun.)
Bennett. A. J. Edmondson, Major A. J. Hope, Sir Harry (Forfar)
Berry, Sir George Ellis, R. G. Hopkins, J. W. W.
Betterton, Henry B. Elveden, Viscount Howard-Bury, Lieut.-Colonel C. K.
Birchall, Major J. Dearman England, Colonel A. Hudson, Capt. A. U, M. (Hackney, N.)
Boothby, R. J. G. Evans, Captain A. (Cardiff, South) Hume, Sir G. H.
Bourne, Captain Robert Croft Everard, W. Lindsay Hunter-Weston, Lt.-Gen. Sir Aylmer
Bowyer, Capt. G. E. W. Fairfax, Captain J. G. Huntingfield, Lord
Braithwaite, Major A. N. Falle, Sir Bertram G. Jackson, Sir H. (Wandsworth, Cen'l)
Brass, Captain W. Fielden, E. B. Jacob, A. E.
Briscoe, Richard George Finburgh, S. James, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert
Brocklebank, C. E. R. Ford, Sir P. J. Jephcott, A. R.
Brooke, Brigadier-General C. R. I. Forestier-Walker, Sir L. Jones, G W. H. (Stoke Newington)
Broun-Lindsay, Major H. Forrest, W. Kidd, J. (Linlithgow)
Buchan, John Foxcroft, Captain C. T. Kindersley, Major Guy M.
Buckingham, Sir H. Fraser, Captain Ian King, Commodore Henry Douglas
Bull, Rt. Hon. Sir William James Gadie, Lieut.-Col. Anthony Knox, Sir Alfred
Bullock, Captain M. Ganzonl, Sir John Lamb, J. Q
Burman, J. B. Gates, Percy Lane Fox, Col. Rt. Hon. George R.
Burton, Colonel H. W. Gauit, Lieut.-Col. Andrew Hamilton Long, Major Eric
Butler, Sir Geoffrey Gibbs, Col. Rt. Hon. George Abraham Looker, Herbert William
Butt, Sir Alfred Glimour, Colonel Rt. Hon. Sir John Lougher, Lewis
Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward Gower, Sir Robert Luce, Major-Gen. Sir Richard Harman
Campbell, E. T. Grace, John Lumley, L. R.
Cassels, J. D. Graham, Fergus (Cumberland, N.) Lynn, Sir. R. J.
Cayzer, Maj. Sir Herbt. R. (Prtsmth.S. ) Greaves-Lord, Sir Walter Macdonald, R. (Glasgow, Cathcart)
Chadwick, Sir Robert Burton Greene, W. P. Crawford McDonnell, Colonel Hon. Angus
Chapman, Sir S. Greenwood, Rt. Hn. Sir H. (W'th's'w, E.) McLean, Major A.
Christie, J. A. Grenfell, Edward C. (City of London) Macmillan, Captain H.
Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer Grotrian, H. Brent McNeill, Rt. Hon. Ronald John
Churchman, Sir Arthur C. Guest, Capt. Rt. Hon. F. E. (Bristol, N.) Makins, Brigadier-General E.
Clayton, G. C. Gunston, Captain D. W. Malone, Major P. B.
Cobb, Sir Cyril Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) Manningham-Buller, Sir Mervyn
Colfox, Major Wm. Phillips Hammersley, S. S. Margesson, Captain D.
Cooper, A. Duff Hanbury, C. Mason, Lieut-Col. Glyn K.

"The expression 'sweets' means any liquor which is made from fruit and sugar, or from fruit or sugar mixed with any other material and which has undergone a process of fermentation in the manufacture thereof, and includes British wines, made wines, mead, and metheglin."

In case the hon. Member does not understand the last two terms, I may explain that they are ancient drinks made of honey which at one time were very popular in this country.

Question put, "That the Clause stand part of the Bill."

The Committee divided: Ayes, 230; Noes, 113.

Meyer, Sir Frank Rhys, Hon. C. A. U. Templeton, W. P.
Milne, J. S. War Slaw- Rice, Sir Frederick Thompson, Luke (Sunderland)
Mitchell, S. (Lanark, Lanark) Robinson, Sir T. (Lanes., Stratford) Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South)
Mitchell, W. Foot (Saffron Walden) Hopner, Major L. Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir W. Mitchell-
Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. B. M. Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) Tinne, J. A.
Moore, Lieut.-Colonel T. C. R. (Ayr) Rye, F. G. Titchfield, Major the Marquess of)
Moreing, Captain A. H. Salmon, Major I. Wallace, Captain D. E.
Morrison-Bell, Sir Arthur Clive Samuel, Samuel (W'dsworth, Putney) Ward, Lt.-Col. A. L. (Kingston-on-Hull)
Murchison, Sir Kenneth Sandeman, N. Stewart Warner, Brigadier-General W. W.
Nelson, Sir Frank Sanders, Sir Robert A. Waterhouse, Captain Charles
Neville, Sir Reginald J. Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D. Watson, Rt. Hon. W. (Carlisle)
Newman, Sir R. H, S. D. L. (Exeter) Savery, S. S. Wells, S. R.
O'Neill, Major Rt. Hon. Hugh Shaw, R. G. (Yorks, W. R., Sowerby) Williams, A. M. (Cornwall, Northern,
Oman, Sir Charles William C. Sheffield, Sir Berkeley Williams, Com. C. (Devon, Torquay)
Pennefather, Sir John Shepperson, E. W. Williams, Herbert G. (Reading)
Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) Simms, Dr. John M. (Co. Down) Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Perkins, Colonel E. K. Sinclair, Col. T. (Queen's Univ., Belfast) Winterton. Rt. Hon. Earl
Perring, Sir William George Slaney, Major P. Kenyon Wise, Sir Fredric
Plicher, G. Smith. R. W. (Aberd'n & Klnc'dine, C.) Withers, John James
Pownali, Sir Assheton Smith-Carington, Neville W. Womersley, W. J.
Price, Major C. W. M. Somerville, A. A. (Windsor) Wood, B. C. (Somerset, Bridgwater)
Radford, E. A. Spender-Clay, Colonel H. Wood, Sir Kingsley (Woolwich, W.)
Raine, Sir Walter Stanley, Lieut.-Colonel Rt. Hon. G. F. Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L.
Rawson, Sir Cooper Steel, Major Samuel Strang Yerburgh, Major Robert D. T.
Rees, Sir Beddoe Streatfelid, Captain S. R.
Reid, D. D. (County Down) Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn) TELLERS FOR THE AYES
Remer, J. R. Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser Major Sir Harry Barnston and Mr.
Rentoul, G. S. Sugden, Sir Wilfrid Penny.
NOES.
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Riley, Ben
Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland) Ritson, J.
Ammon, Charles George Hayday, Arthur Roberts, Rt. Hon. F. O. (W. Bromwich)
Baker, J. (Wolverhampton, Bilston) Hayes, John Henry Robinson, W. C. (Yorks, W. R., Elland)
Baker, Walter Henderson, Right Hon. A. (Burnley) Rose, Frank H.
Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) Henderson, T. (Glasgow) Salter, Dr. Alfred
Barnes, A. Hirst, G. H. Scurr, John
Batey, Joseph Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) Shepherd, Arthur Lewis
Bondfield, Margaret Hore-Beilsha, Leslie Shiels, Dr. Drummond
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. Hudson, J. H. (Huddersfield) Short, Alfred (Wednesbury)
Briant, Frank Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) Smillie, Robert
Broad, F. A. John, William (Rhondda, West) Smith, H. B. Lees (Keighley)
Brown, Ernest (Leith) Johnston, Thomas (Dundee) Snell, Harry
Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) Snowden, Rt. Hon. Philip
Buchanan, G. Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Slivertown) Stamford, T. W.
Buxton, Rt. Hon. Noel Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Stephen, Campbell
Charleton. H. C. Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) Stewart, I. (St. Rollox)
Clowes, S. Kelly, W. T. Sullivan, J.
Cluse, W. S. Kennedy, T. Thorne, W. (West Ham, plaistow)
Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. Kirkwood, D. Thurtle, Ernest
Connolly, M. Lansbury, George Townend, A. E.
Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities) Lawrence, Susan Variey, Frank B.
Day, Colonel Harry Lee, F. Viant, S. P.
Dennison, R. Lindley, F. W. Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline)
Dunnico, H. Lowth, T. Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda)
Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) Lunn, William Welsh, J. C.
Edwards, J. Hugh (Accrington) Mackinder, W. Wiggins, William Martin
Gardner, J. P. MacLaren, Andrew Wilkinson, Ellen C.
Garro-Jones, Captain G. M. Maclean, Neil (Glasgow, Govan) Williams, C. P. (Denbigh, Wrexham)
Gibbins, Joseph March, S. Williams, David (Swansea, East)
Gillett, George M. Morris, R. H. Williams, Dr. J. H. (Lianelly)
Gosling, Harry Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe)
Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) Mosley, Oswald Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow)
Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edin., Cent.) Murnin, H. Windsor, Walter
Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Colne) Naylor, T. E. Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton)
Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) Palin, John Henry
Groves, T. Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. TELLERS FOR THE NOES.
Grundy, T. W. Ponsonby, Arthur Mr. Whileley and Mr. B. Smith.
Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) Potts, John S.