HC Deb 09 December 1926 vol 200 cc2292-7
Mr. RAMSAY MacDONALD

May I ask the Prime Minister what business he proposes to take to-morrow and next week?

The PRIME MINISTER

To-morrow, after the Judicial Proceedings (Regulation of Reports) Bill has been disposed of, we shall consider Lords Amendments to the Criminal Justice (Increase of Penalties) Bill, and the Burgh Registers (Scotland) Bill, anti take the Third Reading of the Palestine and Fast Africa Loans (Guarantee) Bill.

On Monday: Report and Third Reading of the Sale of Food (Weights and Measures) Bill [Lords], Coroner's (Amendment) Bill [Lords], Legitimacy Bill [Lords], Mental Deficiency Bill [Lords], Judicial Committee Bill [Lords], and consideration of any Lords Amendments to Bills which may be received from another place.

Tuesday: Lords Amendments to Bills and any other business necessary to bring the Session to a close. An opportunity will, be given for a Debate on Necessitous Areas, to be initiated by the Opposition.

I hope that Prorogation will take place on Wednesday next, 15th December.

Captain BENN

May I ask the Prime Minister which Orders he proposes to take to-day?

The PRIME MINISTER

The Palestine and East Africa Loans (Guarantee) Bill, Committee stage, the Sale of Food (Weights and Measures) Bill, Committee stage, the Emergency Powers Act Regulations Resolution and the Judicial Committee Bill, Committee stage.

Captain BENN

Will the Judicial Committee Bill be taken before the Regulations, or will the Regulations be taken first?

The PRIME MINISTER

The Regulations first.

Captain BENN

Has the Prime Minister observed the Amendments on the Paper in connection with these first two Orders mentioned, and can he give any estimate of the time at which this Emergency Regulations Resolution will be taken?

The PRIME MINISTER

That of course is a matter on which I cannot give an opinion. It rests with the House.

Captain BENN

Does the right hon. Gentleman think it right to take a Resolution of such great Constitutional importance at an early hour in the morning?

The PRIME MINISTER

I should have thought that the surrender of these Emergency powers would have been something agreeable to hon. Members.

Sir JOHN MARRIOTT

Is it intended to complete the Committee stage of the Sale of Food (Weights and Measures) Bill to-night? It is a very contentions Measure.

The PRIME MINISTER

It is impossible to say how much can be accomplished, but. I hope we can take what I have announced.

Mr. MACLEAN

In regard to the Emergency Regulations, is it not the substitution of some Orders for others? Have we not received a White Paper intimating to us that instead of withdrawing the Orders the Home Secretary is substituting certain Orders for others?

The PRIME MINISTER

I have not seen any White Paper.

Mr. MACLEAN

Then I think the Debate should be adjourned if the Prime Minister does not know what is going to come on. Surely it is time he had the White Paper in his hand to read it.

Captain BENN

Does not the Prime Minister realise the impropriety of taking a Resolution of this importance so late to-night? It is the only opportunity we have of discussing the whole of the procedure under the Emergency Powers Act.

The PRIME MINISTER

I fail to see any impropriety.

Mr. MACLEAN

Am I to understand that the White Paper in my hand, which contains certain Orders in substitution of other Orders, will not be brought before the house to-night?

The PRIME MINISTER

No. It is coming before the House.

Mr. MACLEAN

Then you know about it?

Captain BENN

Does the Prime Minister arrange at what time business shall be taken without acquainting himself with what the business in question is?

Mr. RAMSAY MacDONALD

I do not know if I am properly informed. There is no agreement, but I understood there was a sort of understanding that these Emergency Regulations would be debated at a fairly reasonable hour, and that, if any of the other business had not been finished before that reasonable hour, it would be continued after the Emergency Regulations. I want to make it quite clear to the House that I do not say there is any agreement—none whatever—but I thought there was a sort of friendly understanding.

The PRIME MINISTER

The right hon. Gentleman is perfectly right in saying there is no agreement, and he is perfectly right in his assumption that we shall take these Regulations at a reasonable hour. I have only given what I hope it will be possible to do.

Captain BENN

Is the right hon. Gentleman not aware that to-night is the last opportunity for taking these Regulations, and that if he does not take the Resolution to-night, the Regulations will be revived under the Emergency Powers Act?

The PRIME MINISTER

My hon. and gallant Friend has not got the time quite right.

Captain BENN

Is it not the fact that these Regulations last for seven days

from the day on which they are laid, and that they were actually laid on Friday of last week?

Captain GARRO-JONES

Would it be a great calamity if the house were to sit an additional day, so that we could take the Regulations now?

The PRIME MINISTER

No. if the hon. and gallant. Gentleman asked, I have no doubt that the House would sit tilt Christmas Eve.

Motion made, and Question put, That the proceeding on Government Business be exempted at. this day's Sitting from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[The Prime Minister.]

The House divided Ayes, 216: Noes. 102.

Division No. 550.] AYES. [3.54 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Craig, Ernest (Chester, Crewe) Hawke, John Anthony
Ainsworth, Major Charles Cralk, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry Headlam. Lieut.-Colonel C. M.
Albery, Irving James Croft, Brigadier-General Sir H. Herbert, S. (York, N. R., Scar.amp; Wh'by)
Alexander, E. E. (Leyton) Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) Hills, Major John Waiter
Applin, Colonel R. V. K. Crookshank, Col. C. de W. (Berwick) Hogg, Rt. Hon. Sir O. (St, Marylebone)
Apsley, Lord Cunliffe. Sir Herbert Holland. Sir Arthur
Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W. Curzon, Captain Viscount Hope, Capt. A. O. J. (Warw'k, Nun.)
Atholl, Duchess of Dalkeith, Earl of Hopkinson, Sir A. (Eng. Universities)
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) Hudson, Capt. A. U, M.(Hackney, N.)
Barclay-Harvey, C. M. Dawson, Sir Philip Hudson, R. S. (Cumberland, Whiteh'n)
Barnett, Major Sir Richard Dean, Arthur Wellesley Hume, Sir G. H.
Beckett, Sir Gervase (Leeds, N.) Dixey. A. C. Hurd. Percy A.
Bellairs, Commander Carlyon W. Dixon, Captain Rt. Hon. Herbert Hurst, Gerald B.
Bennett, A. J. Drewe, C. Hutchison,G.A.Clark (Midl'n & P'bl's)
Bentinck, Lord Henry Cavendish- Edmondson, Major A. J. Inskip, Sir Thomas Walker H.
Berry, Sir George Edwards, J. Hugh (Accrington) Jackson, Sir H. (Wandsworth, Cen'l)
Betterton, Henry B Elliott, Major Walter E. Jacob, A. E.
Bird, E. R. (Yorks, W. R., Skipton; Ellis, R. G. James. Lieut.-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert
Blundell, F. N. Erskine Lord (Somerset.Weston-s.-M.) Jephcott, A. R.
Bowyer. Captain G. E. W. Erskine,' James Malcolm Monteith Kennedy. A. P. (Preston)
Braithwaite. A. N. Evans, Captain A. (Cardiff, South) Kidd, J. (Linlithgow)
Brass, captain W. Everard, W. Lindsay King, Capt. Henry Douglas
Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William dive Fairfax, Captain J. G. Kinloch-Cooke. Sir Clement
Briggs, J. Harold Falle. Sir Bertram G. Lane Fox, Col. Rt. Hon. George R.
Briscoe, Richard George Fanshawe. Commander G. D. Lister, Cunliffe, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip
Brittain, Sir Harry Fermoy, Lord Locker-Lampson, G. (Wood Green)
Brown, Col. D. C. (N'th'l'd., Hexham) Fielden, E. B. Loder, J. de V.
Brown, Brig. Gen. H.C. (Berks, Newb'y) Forestier. Walker, Sir L. Lowe. Sri Francis William
Buckingham, Sir H. Foster, Sir Harry S. Luce, Maj.-Gen. Sir Richard Harman
Bullock, Captain M. Frece, Sir Walter de Macdonald, Capt. P.D. (I. of W.)
Burgoyne, Lieut.-Colonel Sir Alan Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E MacIntyre, Ian
Burman. J. B. Gadie. Lieut.-Col. Anthony McLean. Major A.
Burton. Colonel H. W. Ganzoni, Sir John McNeill, Rt. Hon. Ronald John
Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John Maitland, Sir Arthur D. Steel-
Caine, Gordon Hall Glyn, Major R. G. C. Malone, Major P. B.
Carver, W. H. Grace, John Manningnam-Buller. Sir Mervyn
Cautley, Sir Henry s. Graham, Fergus (Cumberland. N.) Margesson, Captain D.
Cazalet, Captain Victor A. Grant, Sir J. A. Marriott, Sir J. A. R.
Chadwick, Sir Robert Burton Grattan-Doyle, Sir N. Merriman, F. B.
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Ladywood) Greene. W. P. Crawford Mitchell, S. (Lanark, Lanark)
Chapman, Sir S. Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John Moles, Thomas
Charteris, Brigadier-General J. Grotrian, H. Brent Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. B. M.
Christie, I. A. Guinness, Rt. Hon. Walter E. Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C.
Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer Gunston, Captain D. W. Morrison, H. (Wilts, Salisbury)
Churchman, Sir Arthur C. Hacking, Captain Douglas H. Murchison, C. K.
Cobb, Sir Cyril Hall, Lieut. Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter)
Cochrane. Commander Hon. A. D. Hall, Capt- W. D'A. (Brecon & Rad) Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge)
Cockerill. Brig.-General Sir G. K. Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hn. W. G.(Ptrsf'ld.)
Cohen, Major J. Brunei Harland, A. Nield, Rt. Hon. Sir Herbert
Colfox, Major William Phillips Harrison, G. J. C. Nuttall, Ellis
Cooper, A. Duff Hartington, Marquess of Oman, Sir Charles William C.
Cope, Major William Haslam, Henry C. Ormsby-Gore, Hon. William
Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) Shaw, Cap). Walter (Wilts, Westb'yl Waddington, R.
Perkins, Colonel E. K. Sheffield, Sir Berkeley Wallace, Captain D. E.
Peto, Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) Simms, Dr. John M. (Co. Down) Ward, Lt.-Col. A. L. (Kingstonon-Hull)
Peto, G. (Somerset, Frome) Slaney, Major P. Kenyon Warner, Brigadier-General W. W.
Price, Major C. W. M. Smith, R.W. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, C.) Waterhouse, Captain Charles
Radford, E. A. Smithers, Waldron Watson, Rt. Hon. W. (Carlisle)
Raine. W. Somerville, A. A. (Windsor) Watts, Dr. T.
Ramsden, E. Spender-Clay, Colonel H. Wells, S. R.
Rawson, Sir Cooper Stanley. Col. Hon. G. F. (Will'sden, E.I Wheler, Major Sir Granville C. H.
Reid, Capt. Cunningham (Warrington) Stanley, Lord (Fylde) White, Lieut.-Col. Sir G. Dairymple.
Remnant, Sir James Steel, Major Samuel String Williams, Com. C. (Devon, Torquay)
Rhys, Hon. C. A. U. Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn) Windsor-Clive, Lieut-Colonel George
Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'y) Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser Wise, Sir Fredric
Ropner, Major L. Sugden, Sir Wilfrid Wolmer, Viscount
Ruggles-Brise, Major E. A. Sykes, Major-Gen. Sir Frederick K. Womersley, w. J.
Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) Thorn, Lt.-Col. J. G. (Dumbarton) Wood, E. (Chest'r, Stalyb'dge & Hyde)
Samuel, A, M. (Surrey, Farnham) Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South) Woodcock, Colonel H. C.
Sandeman, A. Stewart Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir W. Mitchell- Yerburgh, Major Robert D. T.
Sanderson, Sir Frank Tinne, J. A.
Sandon, Lord Titchfield, Major the Marquess of TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustavo D. Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement Colonel Gibbs and Major Hennessy.
NOES.
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Hayes, John Henry Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring)
Ammon, Charles George Henderson, T. (Glasgow) Robinson, W. C.(Yorks, W.R., Elland)
Attlee, Clement Richard Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) Rose, Frank H.
Baker, Walter Hore-Belisha, Leslie Saklatvala, Shapurji
Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) Salter, Dr. Alfred
Barnes, A. John, William (Rhondda, West) Scrymgeour, E.
Barr, J. Johnston, Thomas (Dundee) Short, Alfred (Wednesbury)
Batey, Joseph Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Slesser, Sir Henry H.
Benn, Captain Wedgwood (Leith) Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) Smith, Ben (Bermondsey, Rotherhille)
Bondfield, Margaret Kelly, w. T. Smith, Rennie (Penistone)
Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) Kennedy, T. Spoor, Rt. Hon. Benjamin Charles
Buchanan, G. Kirkwood, D. Stamford, T. W.
Cape, Thomas Lawrence, Susan Stephen, Campbell
Charleton, H. C. Lawson, John James Sutton, J. E.
Cove, W. G. Lee, F. Taylor, R. A.
Dalton, Hugh Livingstone, A. M. Thomas, Sir Robert John (Anglesey)
Davies, Evan (Ebbw Vale) Lowth, T. Thomson, Trevelyan (Middlesbro, W.)
Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) Lunn, William Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
Day, Colonel Harry MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R.(Aberavon) Thurtle, Ernest
Dennison, R. MacLaren, Andrew Tinker, John Joseph
Duncan, C. Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan) Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. C. P.
Dunnico, H. MacNeill-Weir, L. viant, S. P.
Garro-Jones, Captain G. M. March, S. Wallhead, Richard C.
Gibbins, Joseph Maxton, James Walsh, Rt. Hon. Stephen
Gillett, George M. Mitchell. E. Rosslyn (Paisley) Webb, Rt. Hon. Sidney
Gosling, Harry Morris, R. H. Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Josiah
Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) Welsh, J. C.
Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edin., Cent.) Murnin, H. Westwood, J.
Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) Oliver, George Harold Whiteley, W.
Groves, T. Owen, Major G. Wiggins, William Martin
Guest, Haden (Southwark, N.) Palin, John Henry Williams, T. (York. Don Valley)
Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Paling, W. Wright, W.
Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland) Ponsonby, Arthur
Hardle. George D. Potts, John S. TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Hartshorn, Rt. Hon. Vernon Purcell, A. A. Mr. Allen Parkinson and Mr.
Charles Edwards.

Question put, and agreed to.