HC Deb 26 November 1925 vol 188 cc1603-7

May I ask the Prime Minister what business will be taken next week?


On Monday: Rating and Valuation Bill—completion of the Report stage, and Third Reading.

Tuesday: Discussion of the Motion relating to the Communist prosecution, standing on the Paper in the name of the right hon. Gentleman the Leader of the Opposition (Mr. MacDonald), and, if time permit, other Orders.

Wednesday and Thursday: We shall consider Ways and Means Resolutions giving effect to new duties proposed under the Safeguarding of Industries procedure.

The business on Friday will be announced later.


Can we be told now how many Resolutions will be put down for Wednesday and Thursday?


It is either four or five.


One for each subject or item?


I think so, but the subject of each will be in the Vote Office to-morrow.


Is it proposed to take the Scottish Education Bill tonight? I understand it is opposed, and it is the third Order after Eleven o'Clock.


My right hon. Friend will remember that I said it would be taken if it were non-controversial.


May I ask the Prime Minister if the Members of this House may not have the evidence submitted to these Committees, in order to help them to make up their minds and to come to a decision on safeguarding?


No. that has never been given under any. administration of the Safeguarding of Industries Act. There is a very full Report.


But, in view of the fact, that certain abridged Reports have been published in the newspapers, cannot we have what evidence has been submitted?

Captain BENN

Will the right hon. Gentleman say when the Reports of these Committees will be available to Members; and, secondly, whether, before the discussion on Tuesday, we may have made available in the Library or elsewhere the official note of the Attorney-General's speech at the Old Bailey?


I will consider the second part of that question. The answer to the first part is on Friday.


Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that, in regard to the Scottish Education Bill, the opposition so far as the Labour Members and the great bulk of the Liberal Members are concerned, has been withdrawn, and, in view of that, will he not allow the Bill now to get its Second Reading?


Their attitude is very important, but their abstention from opposition to the Bill does not necessarily make the Bill uncontroversial.


Is it not the case that the only opposition is the opposition of the right hon. Member for the Scottish Universities (Sir H. Craik)? Is he to hold up the whole Bill?


That is absolutely not a fact.


On a point of Order. Is it not the case that the notice on the Paper for the rejection of the Bill stands in the name of the right hon. Member for the Scottish Universities, and his alone?


I have often seen these Motions not carried into effect.


Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that the evidence taken by the Safeguarding of Industry Committees is accessible to many hon. Members privately, and could it not be made accessible publicly?


I am not aware of that.

Motion made and Question put, That the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[The Prime Minister.]

The House divided: Ayes, 251; Noes, 117.

Division No. 417.] AYES. [3.50 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Foxcroft, Captain C. T. Morrison-Bell, Sir Arthur Clive
Agg-Gardner, Rt. Hon. Sir James T. Fraser, Captain Ian Murchison, C. K.
Albery, Irving James Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. Nelson, Sir Frank
Alexander, E. E. (Leyton) Ganzoni, Sir John Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter)
Allen, J. Sandeman (L'pool, W. Derby) Gates, Percy. Nicholson, O. (Westminster)
Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. Gault, Lieut.-Col. Andrew Hamilton Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hn. W. G. (Ptrsf'ld.)
Applin, Colonel R. V. K. Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John Nield, Rt. Hon. Sir Herbert
Apsley, Lord Glyn, Major R. G. C. Nuttall, Ellis
Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W. Goff, Sir Park Oakley, T.
Astor, Viscountess Greene, W. P. Crawford O'Neill, Major Rt. Hon. Hugh
Atholl, Duchess of Gretton, Colonel John Oman, Sir Charles William C.
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Grotrian, H. Brent Ormsby-Gore, Hon. William
Balfour, George (Hampstead) Gunston, Captain D. W. Owen, Major G.
Balniel, Lord Hacking, Captain Douglas H. Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings)
Barnston, Major Sir Harry Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) Perkins, Colonel E. K.
Beamish, Captain T. P. H. Hall, Vice-Admiral Sir R. (Eastbourne) Perring, William George
Beckett, Sir Gervase (Leeds, N.) Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Peto, G. (Somerset, Frome)
Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) Harland, A. Pielou, D. P.
Bentinck, Lord Henry Cavendish- Harmsworth, Hon. E. C. (Kent) Pownall, Lieut.-Colonel Assheton
Berry, Sir George Harrison, G. J. C. Preston, William
Betterton, Henry B. Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) Price, Major C. W. M.
Birchall, Major J. Dearman Haslam, Henry C. Raine, W.
Blades, Sir George Rowland Hawke, John Anthony Ramsden, E.
Blundell, F. N. Headlam, Lieut.-Colonel C. M. Reid, Capt. A. S. C. (Warrington)
Bourne, Captain Robert Croft Henderson, Capt. R. R. (Oxf'd, Henley) Reid, D. D. (County Down)
Bowater, Sir T. Vansittart Henn, Sir Sydney H. Remnant, Sir James
Bowyer, Captain G. E. W. Hennessy, Major J. R. G. Rice, Sir Frederick
Boyd-Carpenter, Major A. Herbert, Dennis (Hertford, Watford) Robinson, Sir T. (Lanes., Stretford)
Brass, Captain W. Holbrook, Sir Arthur Richard Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth)
Brassey, Sir Leonard Holt, Captain H. P. Salmon, Major I.
Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William Clive Hopkins, J. W. W. Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham)
Briscoe, Richard George Hopkinson, A. (Lancaster, Mossley) Sandeman, A. Stewart
Brocklebank, C. E. R. Horlick, Lieut.-Colonel J. N. Sanders, Sir Robert A.
Brooke, Brigadier-General C. R. I. Howard, Capt. Hon. D. (Cumb., N.) Sanderson, Sir Frank
Broun-Lindsay, Major H. Hudson, R. S. (Cumberl'nd, Whiteh'n) Sandon, Lord
Brown, Brig.-Gen. H.C.(Berks, Newb'y) Hume, Sir G. H. Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D.
Buckingham, Sir H. Huntingfield, Lord Savery, S. S.
Bullock, Captain M. Hurd, Percy A. Shaw, Lt.-Col. A. D. Mcl.(Renfrew, W.)
Burman, J. B. Hurst, Gerald B. Shaw, Capt. W. W. (Wilts, Westb'y)
Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward Hutchison, Sir Robert (Montrose) Sheffield, Sir Berkeley
Caine, Gordon Hall Jackson, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. F. S. Simms, Dr. John M. (Co. Down)
Campbell, E. T. Jacob, A. E. Smith, R. W. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, C.)
Cautley, Sir Henry S. James, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert Smithers, Waldron
Cayzer, Sir C. (Chester, City) Jephcott, A. R. Somerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Cazalet, Captain Victor A. Kidd, J. (Linlithgow) Spender Clay, Colonel H.
Chadwick, Sir Robert Burton King, Captain Henry Douglas Sprot, Sir Alexander
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Ladywood) Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement Stanley, Lord (Fylde)
Charteris, Brigadier-General J. Lamb, J. Q. Storry Deans, R.
Chillcott, Sir Warden Lane-Fox, Colonel George R. Stott, Lieut.-Colonel W. H.
Christie, J. A. Lister, Cunliffe, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Streatfeild, Captain S. R.
Churchman, Sir Arthur C. Lloyd, Cyril E. (Dudley) Stuart, Crichton-, Lord C.
Clarry, Reginald George Locker-Lampson, G. (Wood Green) Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn)
Clayton, G. C. Locker-Lampson, Com. O. (Handsw'th) Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser
Cobb, Sir Cyril Loder, J. de V. Sykes, Major-Gen. Sir Frederick H.
Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. Looker, Herbert William Tasker, Major R. Inigo
Cockerlll, Brigadier-General G. K. Lowe, Sir Francis William Templeton, W. P.
Cohen, Major J. Brunei Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh Vere Thompson, Luke (Sunderland)
Colfox, Major Wm. Phillips Luce, Major-Gen. Sir Richard Harman Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South)
Cope, Major William Lumley, L. R. Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir W. Mitchell-
Craik, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry MacAndrew, Charles Glen Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) McDonnell, Colonel Hon. Angus Waddington, R.
Crookshank, Cpt. H. (Lindsey, Gainsbro) Macintyre, Ian Wallace, Captain D. E.
Curzon, Captain Viscount McLean, Major A. Ward, Lt.-Col. A. L. (Kingston-on-Hull)
Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) Macmillan, Captain H. Warner, Brigadier-General W. W.
Dean, Arthur Wellesley Macnaghten, Hon. Sir Malcolm Warrender, Sir Victor
Dixey, A. C. McNeill, Rt. Hon. Ronald John Waterhouse, Captain Charles
Doyle, Sir N. Grattan Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I. Watson, Sir F. (Pudsey and Otley)
Drewe, C. Macquisten, F. A. Watson, Rt. Hon. W. (Carlisle)
Edmondson, Major A. J. Mac Robert, Alexander M. Wells, S. R.
Edwards, John H. (Accrington) Maitland, Sir Arthur D. Steel- Wheler, Major Sir Granville C. H.
Elliot, Captain Walter E. Malone, Major P. B. White, Lieut.-Colonel G. Dairymple
Elveden, Viscount Manningham-Buller, Sir Mervyn Williams, A. M. (Cornwall, Northern)
Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-s.-M.) Margesson, Captain D. Williams, C. P. (Denbigh, Wrexham)
Erskine, James Malcolm Monteith Marriott, Sir J. A. R. Williams, Herbert G. (Reading)
Evans, Captain A. (Cardiff, South) Milne, J. S. Wardlaw Wilson, M. J. (York, N. R., Richm'd)
Everard, W. Lindsay Mitchell, S. (Lanark, Lanark) Wilson, R. R. (Stafford, Lichfield)
Fairfax, Captain J. G. Mitchell, W. Foot (Saffron Walden) Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Faile, Sir Bertram G. Moore, Lieut.-Colonel T. C. R. (Ayr) Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl
Fanshawe, Commander G. D. Moore, Sir Newton J. Wise, Sir Fredric
Fermoy, Lord Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C. Wolmer, Viscount
Finburgh, S. Morden, Colonel W. Grant Womersley, W. J.
Forrest, W. Morrison, H. (Wilts, Salisbury) Wood, B. C. (Somerset, Bridgwater)
Wood, E. (Chest'r, Stalyb'ge & Hyde) Woodcock, Colonel H. C. TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Wood, Sir Kingsley (Woolwich, W.) Yerburgh, Major Robert D. T. Commander B. Eyres Monsell and
Wood, Sir S. Hill- (High Peak) Colonel Gibbs.
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Hayday, Arthur Sexton, James
Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') Hayes, John Henry Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston)
Ammon, Charles George Henderson, Rt. Hon. A. (Burnley) Shiels, Dr. Drummond
Attlee, Clement Richard Henderson, T. (Glasgow) Short, Alfred (Wednesbury)
Baker, J. (Wolverhampton, Bilston) Hirst, G. H. Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir John
Baker, Walter Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) Sinclair, Major Sir A. (Caithness)
Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) Hore-Belisha, Leslie Smillie, Robert
Barnes, A. Hudson, J. H. (Huddersfield) Smith, Ben (Bermondsey, Rotherhithe)
Barr, J. Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) Smith, Rennie (Penistone)
Batey, Joseph John, William (Rhondda, West) Snell, Harry
Beckett, John (Gateshead) Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) Snowden, Rt. Hon. Philip
Benn, Captain Wedgwood (Leith) Kelly, W. T. Spencer, G. A. (Broxtowe)
Briant, Frank Kennedy, T. Spoor, Rt. Hon. Benjamin Charles
Bromfield, William Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M. Stamford, T. W.
Bromley, J. Lansbury, George Stephen, Campbell
Buchanan, G. Lawson, John James Stewart, J. (St. Rollox)
Cape, Thomas Lee, F. Taylor, R. A.
Cluse, W. S. Livingstone, A. M. Thomas, Sir Robert John (Anglesey)
Collins, Sir Godfrey (Greenock) Lowth, T. Thomson, Trevelyan (Middlesbro, W.)
Connolly, M. Lunn, William Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
Cove, W. G. MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R.(Aberavon) Thurtle, E.
Dalton, Hugh Mackinder, W. Tinker, John Joseph
Davies, Evan (Ebbw Vale) Maclean, Neil (Glasgow, Govan) Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. C. P.
Day, Colonel Harry March, S. Viant, S. P.
Dennison, R. Montague, Frederick Wallhead, Richard C.
Duncan C. Morris, R. H. Walsh, Rt. Hon. Stephen
Dannico, H. Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) Webb, Rt. Hon. Sidney
Fisher, Rt. Hon. Herbert A. L. Naylor, T. E. Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Josiah
Gillett, George M. Oliver, George Harold Weir, L. M.
Gosling, Harry Palin, John Henry Whiteley, W.
Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edin., Cent.) Paling, W. Wilkinson, Ellen C.
Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) Ponsonby, Arthur Williams, David (Swansea, E.)
Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) Potts, John S. Williams, Dr. J. H. (Llanelly)
Groves, T. Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe)
Grundy, T. W. Riley, Ben Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow)
Guest, J. (York, Hemsworth) Ritson, J. Windsor, Walter
Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) Rose, Frank H. Wright, W.
Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland) Saklatvala, Shapurji
Hardie, George D. Scrymgeour, E. TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Hartshorn, Rt. Hon. Vernon Scurr. John Mr. Warne and Mr. Charles Edwards.