HC Deb 07 May 1925 vol 183 cc1315-9

Motion made, and Question proposed, That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolution.

Sir ALFRED MOND

I do not want now to detain the House, but I feel bound, on behalf of those with whom I am associated, to make an immediate protest against the proposal to reduce the Supertax at the time when the Government are proposing a new pensions scheme that will add a very serious sum to the standing charges on industry. In our view the Super-tax is better able to contribute to the pensions than industry, which in many cases is not only making no profits, but is scarcely able to meet the standing charges. Therefore, we shall vote against this Super-tax Resolution and elaborate our reasons when there is more time available.

Mr. JOHNSTON

In the moment that is left I should like, on behalf of the Members on the Labour benches, to express our sincere regrets that we are not allowed to discuss this time what, we take to be a most pernicious part of this most pernicious Budget. At a time when, in two years, incomes assessable to Income Tax have risen by £131, 000, 000, on the Chancellor's own figures, and when the wages paid to the working classes have fallen by £600, 000, 000, we take it to be a scandal and a disgrace that the incomes over £2, 000 of people who do not require relief should be given relief in the manner proposed by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and we propose to vote against this Super-tax Resolution.

Question put, "That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolution."

The House divided: Ayes, 315; Noes, 153.

Division No. 90.] AYES. [11. 30 p. m.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Barnston, Major Sir Harry Brittain, Sir Harry
Agg-Gardner, Rt. Hon. Sir James T. Beamish, Captain T. P. H. Brocklebank, C. E. R.
Albery, Irving James Beckett, Sir Gervase (Leeds, N.) Broun-Lindsay, Major H.
Alexander, E. E. (Leyton) Bellalrs, Commander Carlyon W. Brown, Maj, D. C. (N'th'l'd., Hexham)
Alexander, Sir Wm. (Glasgow, Cent'l) Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C. (Berks, Newb'y)
Allen. J. Sandeman (L'pool, W. Derby) Bennett, A. J. Bull, Rt. Hon. Sir William James
Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. Bethell, A. Bullock, Captain M.
Applln, Colonel R. V. K. Betterton, Henry B. Burman, J. B.
Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W. Bird, E. R. (Yorks, W. R., Skipton) Burney, Lieut.-Com. Charles D.
Ashmead-Bartlett, E. Bird, Sir R. B. (Wolverhampton, W.) Burton, Colonel H. W.
Astbury, Lieut.-Commander, F, W. Blades, Sir George Rowland Butler, Sir Geoffrey
Atholl, Duchess of Blundcll, F. N. Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward
Atkinson, C. Bourne, Captain Robert Croft Caine, Gordon Hall
Baird, Rt. Hon. Sir John Lawrence Bowyer, Capt. G. E. W. Campbell, E. T.
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Brass, Captain W. Cassels, J. D.
Balfour, George (Hampstead) Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William Clive Cayzer, Maj. Sir Herbt. R. (Prtsmth.S.)
Barclay-Harvey, C. M. Briggs, J. Harold Cazalet. Captain Victor A.
Barnett, Major Richard W. Briscoe, Richard George Chadwick, Sir Robert Burton
Charteris, Brigadier-General J. Henderson, Lieut.-Col. v. L. (Bootie) Perkins, colonel E. K.
Chilcott, Sir Warden Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P. Perring, William George
Christie, J. A. Henn, Sir Sydney H. Peto, Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple)
Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer Henniker-Hughan, Vice-Adm. Sir A. Peto, G. (Somerset, Frome)
Churchman, Sir Arthur C. Herbert, Dennis (Hertford, Watford) Philipson, Mabel
Clarry, Reginald George Herbert, S. (York, N. R.,Scar. Wh'by) Pielou, D. P.
Clayton, G. C. Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G. Pilditch, Sir Philip
Cobb, Sir Cyril Hogg, Rt. Hon. Sir D. (St. Marylebone) Price, Major C. W. M.
Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. Hohier, Sir Gerald Fitzroy Raine, W.
Cockerill, Brigadier-General G. K. Holland, Sir Arthur Ramsden, E.
Conway, Sir W. Martin Holt, Captain H. P. Rawson, Alfred Cooper
Cooper A. Duff Homan, C. W. J. Rees, Sir Beddoe
Couper, J. B. Hope, Capt. A. O. J. (Warw'k, Nun.) Reid, Captain A. S. C. (Warrington)
Courtauld, Major J. S. Hopkins, J. W. W. Reid, D. D. (County Down)
Courthope, Lieut.-Col. George L. Horlick, Lieut.-Colonel J. N. Remer, J. R.
Cowan, Sir Wm. Henry(Islington, N.) Howard, Capt. Hon. D. (Cumb., N.) Remnant, Sir James
Craig, Ernest (Chester, Crewe) Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) Rentoul, G. S
Croft, Brigadier-General Sir H. Hume, Sir G. H. Rhys, Hon. C. A. U.
Crooke, J. Smedley (Derltend) Hunter-Weston, Lt.-Gen. Sir Aylmer Rice, Sir Frederick
Crookshank Col. C. de W. (Berwick) Huntingfield, Lord Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'y)
Crookshank, Cpt. H.(Lindsey, Gainsbro) Hurd. Percy A. Roberts, E. H. G. (Flint)
Cunliffe, Joseph Herbert Hutchison, G. A. Clark(Midl'n & P'bl's) Roberts, Samuel (Hertford, Hersford)
Curzon, Captain Viscount Illffe, Sir Edward M. Ropner, Major L.
Dalkeith, Earl of Inskip, Sir Thomas Walker H. Ruggies-Brlse, Major E. A.
Dalziel, Sir Davison Jackson, Sir H. (Wandsworth, Cen'l) Russell, Alexander West-(Tynemouth)
Davidson, Major-General Sir J. H. Jacob, A. E. Rye, F. G.
Davies A. V. (Lancaster, Royton) James, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert Salmon, Major I.
Davies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil) Jones, G. W. H. (Stoke Newington) Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham)
Davies, Sir Thomas(Cirencester) King, Captain Henry Douglas Samuel, Samuel (W'dsworth, Futney)
Dawson Sir Philip Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement Sandeman, A. Stewart
Drewe, C. Knox, Sir Alfred Sanders, Sir Robert A.
Duckworth John Lamb, J. 0 Sanderson, sir Frank
Eden, Captain Anthony Lane-Fox, Colonel George R. Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustavt D.
Edmondson, Major A. J. Leigh, Sir John (Clapham) Savery, S. S.
Edwards John H. (Accrington) Lister, Conliffe-, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Shaw, Capt. W. W. (Wilts, Westb'y)
Elliot Captain Walter E. Little, Dr. E. Graham Sheffield, Sir Berkeley
Ellis R. G. Lloyd, Cyril E. (Dudley) Shepperson, E. W.
Erskine, James Maicolm Monteith Loder, J. de V. Simms, Dr. John M. (Co. Down)
Evans, Captain A. (Cardiff, south) Lord, Walter Greaves Skelton, A. N.
Evans, Capt. Ernest (Weish Univer.) Lougher, L. Slaney, Major P. Kenyon
Everard W. Lindsay Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh Vere Smith, R. W. (Aberd'n &Kln'dlne. C.)
Fairfax, Captain J. G. Luce, Major-Gen. Sir Richard Harman Smith-Carington, Neville W.
Falle, Sir Bertram G. Lumley, L. R. smithers, Waldron
Falls, Sir Charles F. MacAndrew, Charles Glen Somerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Fermoy Lord Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.) Spender Clay, Colonel H.
Fleming D. P. Macdonald, R. (Glasgow, Cathcart) Sprot, Sir Alexander
Fleming, D. P. McDonnell, Colonel Hon. Angus Stanley, Col. Hon. G. F. (Will'sden, E.)
Forestler. Walker, L. Macintyre, Ian Stanley, Lord (Fylde)
Forrest, W. McLean, Major A. Stanley, Hon. O. F. G. (Westm'eland)
Foster, sir Harry S. Macmillan, Captain H. Steel, Major Samuel Strang
Foxcroft Captain C. T. Macnaghten, Hon. Sir Malcolm Storry Deans, R.
Fraser Captain Ian McNeill, Rt. Hon. Ronald John Stott, Lieut.-Colonel W. H.
Frece, Sir Walter de Macquisten, F. A. Strickland sir Gerald
Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. MacRobert, Alexander M. Stuart, Crichton- Lord C.
Gadie, Lieut.-Col. Anthony Maitland, Sir Arthur D. steel- Stuart, Hon J. (Moray and Nairn)
Galbraith J. F. W. Makins, Brigadier-General E. Styles, Captain H. Walter
Ganzonl sir John Manningham-Buller, Sir Mervyn Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser
Gates, Parcy Margesson, Captain D. Sugden, sir Wilfed
Gauit, Lieut.-Col. Andrew Hamilton Mason, Lieut.-Colonel Glyn K. Sykes Major-Gen. sir Frderick H.
Gee, Captain R. Meller, R. J. Templeton, W. P.
Gibbs. Col. Rt. Hon. George Abraham Merriman, F. B. Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen s.)
Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir john Milne, J. S. Wardlaw Thomson, Sir W. Mitchell-(Croydon. S.)
Glyn, Major R. G. c. Mitchell, S. (Lanark, Lanark) Tinne. J. A.
Golf Sir Park Mitchell, W. Foot (Saffron Walden) Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Gower, Sir Robert Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Vaughan-Morgan, Col K. P.
Grace, John Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. B. M. Wallace, Captain D. E.
Grant, J. A. Moore, Sir Newton J. Ward, Lt.-Col. A. L. (Kingston-on-Hull)
Greene, W. P. Crawford Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C. Warner, Brigadier-General W. W.
Greenwood, Rt. Hn. Sir H.(W'th's'w,E) Morden, Col. W. Grant Warrender, Sir Victor
Greenwood, William (Stockport) Morrison-Bell, Sir Arthur Clive Waterhouse, Captain Charles
Grotrian, H. Brent Murchlson, C. K. Watson, Sir F. (Pudsey and Otley)
Guinness, Rt. Hon. Walter E. Nail, Lieut.-Colonel Sir Joseph Watson, Rt. Hon. W. (Carlisle)
Gunston, Captain D. W. Nelson, Sir Frank Watts, Dr. T.
Hacking, Captain Douglas H. Neville, R. J. Wells, S. R.
Hall, Capt. W. D'A. (Brecon & Rad) Newman, sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) Wheler, Major Granville C. H.
Hammersley, S. S. Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) White, Lieut.-Colonel-G. Dalrymple
Hanbury, C. Nicholson, O. (Westminster) Williams, Com. C. (Devon, Torquay)
Harland, A. Nicholson, William G. (Petersfield) Williams, Herbert G. (Reading)
Harrison, G. J. C. Nuttall, Ellis Winby, Colonel L. P.
Harvey, G. (Lambeth, Kennington) Oakley, T. Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) O'Connor, T. J. (Bedford Luton) Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl
Haslam, Henry C. Oman, Sir Charles William C. Wise, Sir Frederic
Hawke, John Anthony Ormsby-Gore, Hon. William Wolmer, Viscount
Headlam, Lieut.-Colonel C. M. Penny, Frederick George Womersley, W. J.
Henderson, Capt. R. R. (Oxf'd, Henley) Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) Wood, B. C. (Somerset, Bridgwater)
Wood, E. (Chest'r, Stalyb'ge & Hyde) Woodcock, Colonel H. C. TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Wood, Sir Kingsley (Woolwich, W.) Wragg, Herbert Major Hennessy and Major Cope.
wood, Sir s. Hill- (High Peak) Yerburgh, Major Robert D. T.
NOES
Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fits, West) Harris, Percy A. Rose, Frank H.
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Hartshorn, Rt. Hon. Vernon Runciman, Rt. Hon. Walter
Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') Hastings, Sir Patrick Salter, Dr. Alfred
Ammon, Charles George Hayday, Arthur Scrymgeour, E.
Attlee, Clement Richard Hayes, John Henry Sexton, James
Baker, J. (Wolverhampton, Bilston) Henderson, Right Hon. A. (Burnley) Shiels, Dr. Drummond
Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) Henderson, T. (Glasgow) Short, Alfred (Wednesbury)
Barnes, A. Hirst, G. H. Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir John
Barr, J. Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) Sinclair, Major Sir A. (Caithness)
Batey, Joseph Hudson, J. H. (Huddersfield) Sitch, Charles H.
Beckett, John (Gateshead) Hutchison, Sir Robert (Montrose) Siesser, Sir Henry H.
Benn, Captain Wedgwood (Leith) John, William (Rhondda, West) Smillie, Robert
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. Johnston, Thomas (Dundee) Smith, Ben (Bermondsey, R'hithe)
Briant, Frank Jones J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) Smith, H. B. Lees (Keighley)
Broad, F. A. Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Snell, Harry
Bromfleld, William Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) Snowden, Rt. Hon. Philip
Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) Kelly, W. T. Spencer, George A. (Broxtowe)
Buchanan, G. Kennedy, T. Spoor, Rt. Hon. Benjamin Charles
Cape, Thomas Kirk wood, D. Stamford, T. W.
Charieton, H. C. Lansbury, George Stephen, Campbell
Clowes, S. Lawson, John James Sutton, J. E.
Cluse, W. S. Lee, F. Taylor, R. A.
Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. Lindley, F. W. Thomas, Sir Robert John (Anglesey)
Collins, Sir Godfrey (Greenock) Lowth, T. Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
Compton, Joseph Lunn, William Thurtie, E.
Connolly, M. MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Aberavon) Tinker, John Joseph
Cove, W. G. Mackinder, W. Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. C. P.
Crawfurd, H. E. MacLaren, Andrew Varley, Frank B.
Dalton, Hugh Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan) Viant, S. P.
Davies, Evan (Ebbw Vale) March, S. Walsh, Rt. Hon. Stephen
Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) Maxton. James Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline)
Day, Colonel Harry Mitchell, E. Rosslyn (Paisley) Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda)
Dennison, R. Mond, Rt. Hon. Sir Alfred Webb, Rt. Hon. Sidney
Duncan, C. Montague, Frederick Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Josiah
Dunnico, H. Morris, R. H. Welsh, J. C.
Fenby, T. D. Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) Westwood, J.
Garro-Jones, Captain G. M. Murnin, H. Wheatley, Rt. Hon, J.
Gillett, George M. Naylor, T. E. Whiteley, W.
Gosling, Harry Oliver, George Harold Wignall, James
Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) Owen, Major G. Wilkinson, Ellen C.
Greenall, T. Palin, John Henry Williams, C. p. (Denbigh, Wrexham)
Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Colne) Paling. W. Williams, David (Swansea, East)
Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. Williams, Dr. J. H. (Lianelly)
Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) Ponsonby, Arthur Williams. T. (York, Don Valley)
Groves, T. Potts, John S. Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe)
Grundy, T. W. Radford, E. A. Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow)
Guest, J. (York, Hemsworth) Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) Windsor, Walter
Guest, Dr. L. Haden (Southwark, N.) Riley, Ben Wright, W.
Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) Ritson, J. Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton)
Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Roberts, Rt. Hon. F. O. (W.Bromwich)
Hardle, George D. Robertson, J. (Lanark, Bothwell) TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Harney, E. A. Robinson, W. C. (Yorks, W.R., Elland) Mr. Allen Parkinson and Mr. Warne

Resolution agreed to.