HC Deb 03 December 1925 vol 188 cc2517-22
Mr. RAMSAY MacDONALD

Will the Prime Minister state what business he proposes to take next week?

The PRIME MINISTER

In view of the present position of business and the desire of the Opposition that the Government should find time to discuss certain subjects in which they are interested, I am afraid I shall not be able to give the business for next week until to-morrow except to say that on Monday we shall proceed with the Safeguarding of Industries Resolutions.

Mr. MacDONALD

I am not sure that I quite understood what the right hon. Gentleman said. Does he propose on Monday to proceed with these Resolutions?

The PRIME MINISTER

I am not sure until after to-night what stage we shall be taking.

Captain WEDGWOOD BENN

With regard to the Ways and Means Resolution, the right hon. Gentleman will recollect that he undertook to put the Resolution on the Paper for the convenience of Members. I observe that the Resolution on the Paper was put down in accordance with his promise the day before yesterday and appeared yesterday. It was then withdrawn and a new Resolution was put on the Paper this morning. May I ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether this is the last and final form in which they are to appear?

Sir P. CUNLIFFE-LISTER

Perhaps I may answer that?

Captain BENN

No. On a point of Order. A Ways and Means Resolution, I submit, is a matter for the Chancellor of the Exchequer.

Mr. SPEAKER

It is always supposed that the Government is one and indivisible.

Mr. CHURCHILL

I really am not furnished with the details of this particular proposal and, unhappily, the Financial Secretary, who was dealing with this branch, is laid up by illness. Therefore I am not able to answer this question myself, but I will ask the House to accept the answer on my behalf from the President of the Board of Trade, who is fully acquainted with the details and with whose views on the matter I am in entire accord.

Sir P. CUNLIFFE-LISTER

The hon. and gallant Gentleman is quite right in one sense. That is to say, the Resolution which is now on the Paper covers exactly the same articles as were included in the Resolution that was on the Paper yesterday, but there is a variation proposed in the rate of duty. I think it would be convenient if I were to deal with the proposals when we come to the Paper Resolution, and not to deal with them by question and answer at present.

Captain BENN

May I ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer one further question, in view of the happy state of unity which appears to exist among members of the Government? May I ask whether, in accordance with the immemorial practice of this House, he intends to adorn our Debates this evening?

Mr. CHURCHILL

I do not know that it has been the immemorial practice of the Opposition to prescribe in advance what members of the Government should deal with any particular matter.

Mr. RUNCIMAN

Will the Prime Minister say whether, when making his programme of time, he has made any provision for discussion of the Motion placed on the Paper by the right hon. Member for the Combined Universities (Mr. Fisher) on the subject of the recently issued Education Circular?

The PRIME MINISTER

I think the answer to that question is comprised in the answer I have given to the Leader of the Opposition.

Mr. RUNCIMAN

Am I to understand that the Resolution which is down in the name of my right hon. Friend will be discussed according to arrangements made with the House?

The PRIME MINISTER

I do not think that is implied in what I said. I cannot state until to-morrow what will be the business for next week.

Motion made and Question put. That other Government Business have precedence this day of the Business of Supply, and that the Proceedings of the Committee of Ways and Means be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[The Prime Minister.]

The House divided: Ayes, 241: Noes, 129.

Division No. 453.] AYES. [4.5 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Cockerill, Brigadier-General G. K. Grattan-Doyle, Sir N.
Agg-Gardner, Rt. Hon. Sir James T. Cohen, Major J. Brunel Greene, W. p, Crawford
Albery, Irving James Colfox, Major Wm. Phillips Greenwood, Rt. Hn. Sir H.(W'th's'w, E)
Alexander, E. E. (Leyton) Conway, Sir W. Martin Gretton, Colonel John
Allen, J. Sandeman (L'pool, W. Derby) Cooper, A. Duff Grotrian, H. Brent
Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S, Cope, Major William Guinness, Rt. Hon. Walter E.
Applin, Colonel R V. K. Couper, J. B. Gunston, Captain D. W.
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Craig, Capt. Rt. Hon. C. C. (Antrim) Hacking, Captain Douglas H.
Balfour, George (Hampstead) Craik, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry Hammersley, S. S.
Balniel, Lord Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry
Barclay-Harvey, C. M. Crookshank, Col. C. de W. (Berwick) Harmsworth, Hon. E. C. (Kent)
Barnett, Major Sir Richard Crookshank, Col. H. (Lindsey, Gainsbro) Harrison, G. J. C.
Barnston, Major Sir Harry Curzon, Captain Viscount Harvey, G. (Lambeth, Kennington)
Beckett, Sir Gervase (Leeds, N.) Davidson,J.(Hertf'd, Hemel Hempst'd) Haslam, Henry C.
Bellairs, Commander Carlyon W. Davies, Dr. Vernon Headlam, Lieut.-Colonel C. M.
Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth. Drake) Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) Henderson, Capt. R. R. (Oxf'd, Henley)
Berry, Sir George Drewe, C. Henderson, Lieut.-Col. V. L. (Bootle)
Bethell, A. Duckworth, John Heneage, Lieut.-Col. Arthur P.
Betterton, Henry B. Eden, Captain Anthony Henn, sir Sydney H.
Blades, Sir George Rowland Edmondson, Major A. J. Hennessy, Major J. R. G.
Blundell, F. N. Edwards, John H. (Accrington) Herbert, S. (York, N. R., Scar. & Wh'by)
Boothby, R. J. G. Elliot, Captain Walter E. Hilton. Cecil
Bourne, Captain Robert Croft Elveden, Viscount Hogg, Rt. Hon. Sir D.(St. Marylebone)
Bowyer, Capt. G. E. W. Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-s.-M.) Hope, Capt. A. O. J. (Warw'k, Nun.)
Brass, captain W. Evans, Captain A. (Cardiff, South) Hopkins, J. W, W.
Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William Clive Everard, W. Lindsay Hopkinson, A. (Lancaster, Mossley)
Briscoe, Richard George Fairfax, Captain J. G. Horlick, Lieut.-Colonel J. N.
Brooke, Brigadier-General C. R. I. Falle, Sir Bertram G. Howard, Capt. Hon. D. (Cumb., N.)
Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C.(Berks, Newb'y) Fanshawe, Commander G. D. Hudson, R. S. (Cumberl'nd, Whiteh'n)
Buckingham, Sir H. Fielden, E. B. Huntingfield, Lord
Bull, Rt. Hon. Sir William James Finburgh, S. Hurd, Percy A.
Bullock, Captain M. Fleming, D. P. Hurst, Gerald B.
Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward Forestier-Walker, Sir L. Hutchison, G. A. Clark(Midl'n & P'bl's)
Caine, Gordon Hall Forrest, W. Jackson, Sir H. (Wandsworth, Cen'l)
Cautley, Sir Henry S Foxcroft, Captain C. T. Jacob, A. E.
Cayzer, Sir C. (Chester, City) Frece, Sir Walter de Jephcott, A. R.
Cazalet, Captain Victor A. Gadie, Lieut.-Col. Anthony Joynson-Hicks, Rt. Hon. Sir William
Cecil, Rt. Hon. Sir Evelyn (Aston) Ganzoni. Sir John Kidd, J. (Linlithgow)
Chadwick, Sir Robert Burton Gates, Percy King, Captain Henry Douglas
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Ladywood) Gault, Lieut.-Col. Andrew Hamilton Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement
Chapman, Sir S. Gee, Captain R. Lamb, J. Q.
Charteris, Brigadier-General J. Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John Lane-Fox, Lieut.-Col. George R.
Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer Glyn, Major R. G. C. Leigh, Sir John (Clapham)
Churchman, Sir Arthur C. Goff, Sir Park Lister, Cunliffe, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip
Clarry, Reginald George Gower, Sir Robert Locker-Lampson. G. (Wood Green)
Cobb, Sir Cyril Grace, John Locker-Lampson, Com. O. (Handsw'th)
Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. Grant, J. A. Lowe, Sir Francis William
Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh Vere Peto, G. (Somerset, Frome) Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser
Luce, Major-Gen. Sir Richard Harman Pielou, D. P. Tasker, Major R. Inigo
Lumley, L. R. Pilcher, G. Templeton, W. P.
MacAndrew, Charles Glen Pownall, Lieut.-Colonel Assheton Thompson, Luke (Sunderland)
Macintyre, Ian Preston, William Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South)
McLean, Major A. Price, Major C. W. M. Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir w. Mitchell
Macquisten, F. A. Radford, E. A. Titchfield, Major the Marquess of
Maitland, Sir Arthur D. Steel- Raine, W. Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Malone, Major P. B. Ramsden, E. Turton, Edmund Russborough
Manningham-Buller, Sir Mervyn Reid, Capt. A. S. C. (Warrington) Vaughan-Morgan, Col. K. P.
Margesson, Captain D. Remnant, Sir James Wallace, Captain D. E.
Marriott, Sir J. A. R. Rice, Sir Frederick Ward, Lt.-Col. A. L.(Kingston-on-Hull)
Meyer, Sir Frank Ruggles-Brise, Major E. A. Warner, Brigadier-General W. W.
Mitchell, S. (Lanark, Lanark) Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) Warrender, Sir Victor
Mitchell, W. Foot (Saffron Walden) Rye. F. G. Waterhouse, Captain Charles
Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Salmon, Major I. Watson, Rt. Hon. W. (Carlisle)
Moore, Lieut. Colonel T. C. R. (Ayr) Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) Watts, Dr. T.
Moore, Sir Newton J. Sandeman, A. Stewart Wells, S. R.
Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. c. Sanders, Sir Robert A. White, Lieut.-Colonel G. Dairymple
Morden, Col. W. Grant Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D. Williams, A. M. (Cornwall, Northern)
Morrison, H. (Wilts, Salisbury) Savery, S. S. Williams, Com. C. (Devon, Torquay)
Morrison-Bell, Sir Arthur Clive Shaw, Capt. W. W. (Wilts, Westb'y) Williams, Herbert G. (Reading)
Murchison, C. K. Sheffield, Sir Berkeley Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Nelson, sir Frank Simms, Dr. John M. (Co. Down) Wise, Sir Fredric
Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) Sinclair, Col. T. (Queen's Univ., Belfst) Wolmer, Viscount
Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) Skelton, A. N. Womersley, W. J.
Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hon. W. G.(Ptrsf'ld.) Slaney, Major P. Kenyon Wood, Sir Kingsley (Woolwich, W.)
Nuttall, Ellis Smith-Carington, Neville W. Wood, Sir S. Hill- (High Peak)
Oakley, T. Smithers, Waldron Woodcock. Colonel H. C.
O'Neill, Major Rt. Hon. Hugh Spender Clay, Colonel H. Yerburgh, Major Robert D. T.
Oman, Sir Charles William C. Sprot, Sir Alexander
Ormsby-Gore, Hon. William Stanley, Col. Hon. G. F. (Will'sden, E.) TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Pease, William Edwin Stanley, Lord (Fylde) Commander B. Eyres Monsell and
Pennefather, Sir John Stott, Lieut.-Colonel W. H. Colonel Gibbs.
Penny, Frederick George Streatfeild, Captain S. R.
NOES.
Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife. West) Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland) Scrymgeour, E.
Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro) Hardie, George D. Scurr, John
Ammon, Charles George Harris, Percy A. Sexton, James
Attlee, Clement Richard Hartshorn, Rt. Hon. Vernon Shiels, Dr. Drummond
Baker, J. (Wolverhampton, Bilston) Hayday, Arthur Short. Alfred (Wednesbury)
Baker, Walter Hayes, John Henry Sinclair, Major Sir A. (Caithness)
Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) Henderson, Rt. Hon. A. (Burnley) Sitch, Charles H.
Barr, J. Henderson, T. (Glasgow) Smillie, Robert
Batey, Joseph Hirst, G. H. Smith, H. B. Lees- (Keighley)
Beckett, John (Gateshead) Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) Smith, Rennie (Penistone)
Benn, Captain Wedgwood (Leith) Hore-Belisha, Leslie Snell, Harry
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W, Hudson, J. H. (Huddersfield) Snowden, Rt. Hon. Philip
Briant, Frank Hutchison, Sir Robert (Montrose) Stamford, T. W.
Broad, F. A. Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) Stewart, J. (St. Rollox)
Bromfield, William John, William (Rhondda, West) Sutton, J. E.
Bromley, J. Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) Taylor, R. A.
Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Thomas, Sir Robert John (Anglesey)
Buchanan, G. Kelly, W. T. Thomson, Trevelyan (Middlesbro. W.)
Cape, Thomas Kennedy, T. Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton, E.)
Clowes, S. Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M. Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
Cluse, W. S. Kirkwood, D. Thurtle, E.
Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. Lansbury, George Tinker, John Joseph
Collins, Sir Godfrey (Greenock) Lawson, John James Townend, A. E.
Connolly, M. Lee, F. Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. C. P.
Cove, W. G. Livingstone, A. M. Varley, Frank B.
Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities) Lowth, T. Viant, S. P.
Dalton, Hugh MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J.R.(Aberavon) Wallhead, Richard C.
Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) MacLaren, Andrew Walsh, Rt. Hon. Stephen
Day, Colonel Harry Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan) Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline)
Dennison, R. March, S. Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda)
Dunnico, H. Mitchell, E. Rosslyn (Paisley) Webb, Rt. Hon. Sidney
Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) Montague, Frederick Weir, L. M.
Evans, Capt. Ernest (Welsh Univer.) Morris, R. H. Westwood, J.
Fenby, T. D. Murnin, H. Whiteley, W.
Gillett, George M. Naylor, T. E. Wiggins, William Martin
Gosling, Harry Palin, John Henry Williams, T. (York, Don Valley)
Greenall, T. Paling, W. Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe)
Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Colne) Ponsonby, Arthur Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow)
Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) Potts, John S. Windsor, Walter
Groves, T. Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) Wright, W.
Grundy, T. W. Ritson, J. Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton)
Guest, J. (York, Hemsworth) Robinson, W. C. (Yorks, W. R., Elland)
Hall, F. (York, W.R., Normanton) Runciman, Rt. Hon. Walter TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Salter, Dr. Alfred Mr. Allen Parkinson and Mr.
Warne.

Question put, and agreed to.