HC Deb 06 August 1925 vol 187 cc1560-5
Mr. RAMSAY MacDONALD

May I ask the Prime Minister what business he proposes to take after Eleven o'clock to-night?

The PRIME MINISTER

I shall ask the House to make a slight alteration in the Motion which I propose to move, so as to make it read: That the Proceedings on Government Business, other than the Committee of Supply, be exempted. The reason for that is, that we have received an Amendment from another place to the Air Ministry (Cattewater Seaplane Station) Bill, which I shall ask the House to take, and I am told that it is desirable to get through a formal stage of the Greenwich Hospital and Travers' Foundation.

Mr. MacDONALD

Can we have the Amendment made in the other place before we actually come to discuss it?

The PRIME MINISTER

I will take what steps I can to see that it is communicated; I have only just had notice of it.

Captain BENN

In view of the Standing Order, which says that a Motion such as this, which is not debatable, must be moved in the form in which it appears, is it competent for the Prime Minister to propose to amend the Motion without notice?

Mr. SPEAKER

Not if it extend the Motion certainly, but only if it be less than the original Motion.

Captain BENN

Does not the Standing Order say that the Motion on the Paper shall be put without Amendment or Debate?

Mr. SPEAKER

I do not propose to put an amended Motion, but to put the Motion in a slightly different form from that which appears on the Order Paper.

Captain BENN

May I respectfully submit that there is no distinction between putting an amended Motion and between putting it in another form?

Mr. SPEAKER

If the hon. and gallant Gentleman presses his point, then I am afraid—

Captain BENN

No, Sir, I do not press it.

Motion made, and Question put, That the Proceedings on Government Business, other than the Committee of Supply, be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[The Prime Minister.]

The House divided: Ayes, 289; Noes, 121.

Division No. 355.] AYES. [3.52 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Butt, Sir Alfred England, Colonel A.
Agg-Gardner, Rt. Hon. Sir James T. Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-s.-M.)
Albery, Irving James Campbell, E. T. Fairfax, Captain J. G.
Alexander, E. E. (Leyton) Cautley, Sir Henry S. Falle, Sir Bertram G.
Allen, J. Sandeman (L'pool, W. Derby) Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord H. (Ox. Univ.) Fanshawe, Commander G. D
Applin, Colonel R. V. K. Chadwick, Sir Robert Burton Fielden, E. B.
Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W. Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Ladywood) Fleming, D. P.
Ashmead-Bartlett, E. Chapman, Sir S. Ford, P. J.
Astor, Viscountess Charteris, Brigadier-General J. Forestier-Walker, Sir L.
Atholl, Duchess of Chilcott, Sir Warden Forrest, W.
Atkinson, C. Christie, J. A. Foster, Sir Harry S.
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer Foxcroft, Captain C. T.
Balfour, George (Hampstead) Clarry, Reginald George Frece, Sir Walter de
Balniel, Lord Clayton, G. C. Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E.
Banks, Reginald Mitchell Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. Gadie, Lieut.-Col. Anthony
Barclay-Harvey, C. M. Cohen, Major J. Brunei Galbraith, J. F. W.
Barnett, Major Sir Richard Cooper, A. Dun Ganzoni, Sir John
Beamish, Captain T. P. H. Couper, J. B. Gates, Percy
Bellairs, Commander Carlyon W. Courtauld, Major J. S. Gault, Lieut.-Col. Andrew Hamilton
Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) Cowan, Sir Wm. Henry (Islington, N.) Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John
Bennett, A. J. Craig, Ernest (Chester, Crewe) Glyn, Major R. G. C.
Berry, Sir George Craik, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry Goff, Sir Park
Betterton, Henry B. Croft, Brigadier-General Sir H. Greene, W. P. Crawford
Bird, Sir R. B. (Wolverhampton, W.) Crook, C. W. Greenwood, Rt. Hn. Sir H. (W'th's'w, E).
Blundell, F. N. Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) Grenfell, Edward C. (City of London).
Boothby, R. J. G. Crookshank, Col. C. de W. (Berwick) Gretton, Colonel John
Bourne, Captain Robert Croft Crookshank, Cpt. H. (Lindsey, Gainsbro) Grotrian, H. Brent
Boyd-Carpenter, Major A. Cunliffe, Joseph Herbert Guest, Capt. Rt. Hon. F. E. (Bristol, N.)
Brass, Captain W. Curzon, Captain Viscount Guinness, Rt. Hon. Walter E.
Brassey, Sir Leonard Davidson, J. (Hertf'd, Hemel Hempst'd) Gunston, Captain D. W.
Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William Clive Davies, A. V. (Lancaster, Royton) Hacking, Captain Douglas H.
Briggs, J. Harold Davies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil) Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich)
Briscoe, Richard George Davies, Sir Thomas (Cirencester) Hall, Vice-Admiral Sir R. (Eastb'rne)
Brocklebank, C. E. R. Dawson, Sir Philip Hammersley, S. S.
Brooke, Brigadier-General C. R. I. Dean, Arthur Wellesley Hanbury, C.
Buckingham, Sir H. Dixey, A. C. Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry
Bullock, Captain M. Doyle, Sir N. Grattan Harrison, G. J. C.
Burgoyne, Lieut.-Colonel Sir Alan Drewe, C. Hartington, Marquess of
Burman, J. B. Edmondson, Major A. J. Harvey, G. (Lambeth, Kennington)
Burton, Colonel H. W. Edwards, John H. (Accrington) Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes)
Butler, Sir Geoffrey Elveden, Viscount Haslam, Henry C.
Henderson, Capt. R.R. (Oxf'd, Henley) Manningham-Buller, Sir Mervyn Shepperson, E. W.
Heneage, Lieut.-Col. Arthur P. Margesson, Captain D. Slaney, Major P. Kenyon
Henn, Sir Sydney M. Marriott, Sir J. A. R. Smith, R. W. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, C.)
Hennessy, Major J. R. G. Meller, R. J. Smith-Carington, Neville W.
Henniker-Hughan, Vice-Adm. Sir A. Meyer, Sir Frank Smithers, Waldron
Herbert, Dennis (Hertford, Watford) Mitchell, S. (Lanark, Lanark) Somerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Herbert, S. (York, N. R., Scar. & Wh'by) Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Spender Clay, Colonel H.
Hilton, Cecil Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. B. M. Sprot, Sir Alexander
Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G. Moore Lieut.-Colonel T. C. R. (Ayr) Stanley, Col. Hon. G. F. (Will'sden, E.)
Hogg, Rt. Hon. Sir D. (St. Marylebone) Moreing, Captain A. H. Stanley, Lord (Fylde)
Hohler, Sir Gerald Fitzroy Morrison, H. (Wilts, Salisbury) Stott, Lieut.-Colonel W. H.
Holbrook, Sir Arthur Richard Morrison-Bell, Sir Arthur Clive Strickland, Sir Gerald
Holland, Sir Arthur Murchison, C. K. Stuart, Crichton-, Lord C.
Holt, Captain H. P. Nail, Lieut.-Colonel sir Joseph Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn)
Homan, C. W. J. Nelson, Sir Frank Styles, Captain H. Walter
Hope, Capt. A. O. J. (Warw'k Nun.) Neville, R. J. Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser
Hopkins, J. W. W. Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) Sugden, Sir Wilfrid
Hopkinson, A. (Lancaster, Mossley) Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) Sykes, Major-Gen. Sir Frederick H.
Horne, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert S. Nicholson, O. (Westminster) Templeton, W. P.
Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hn. W. G. (Ptrsf'ld.) Thompson, Luke (Sunderland)
Hudson, R. S. (Cumberl'nd, Whiteh'n) Nield, Rt. Hon. Sir Herbert Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South)
Hume, Sir G. H. Nuttall, Ellis Thomson, Sir W. Mitchell-(Croydon, S.)
Hunter-Weston, Lt.-Gen. Sir Aylmer O'Connor, T. J. (Bedford, Luton) Tinne, J. A.
Huntingfield, Lord Oman, Sir Charles William C. Titchfield, Major the Marquess of
Hurd, Percy A. Ormsby-Gore, Hon. William Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Hurst, Gerald B. Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) Vaughan-Morgan, Col. K. P.
Jackson, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. F. S. Perkins, Colonel E. K. Wallace, Captain D. E.
Jackson, Sir H. (Wandsworth, Cen'l) Perring, William George Warner, Brigadier-General W. W.
Jacob, A. E. Peto, Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) Warrender, Sir Victor
James, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert Peto, G. (Somerset, Frome) Waterhouse, Captain Charles
Jephcott, A. R. Philipson, Mabel Watts, Dr. T.
Jones, G. W. H. (Stoke Newington) Power, Sir John Cecil Wells, S. R.
Joynson-Hicks, Rt. Hon. Sir William Pownall, Lieut.-Colonel Assheton Wheler, Major Sir Granville C. H.
Kidd, J. (Linlithgow) Preston, William White, Lieut.-Colonel G. Dairymple
Kindersley, Major Guy M. Price, Major C. W. M. Wiggins, William Martin
King, Captain Henry Douglas Radford, E. A. Williams, Com. C. (Devon, Torquay)
Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement Raine, W. Williams, Herbert G. (Reading)
Knox, Sir Alfred Ramsden, E. Wilson, Sir Charles H. (Leeds, Centrl.)
Lamb, J. Q. Rawlinson, Rt. Hon. John Fredk. Peel Wilson, R. R. (Stafford, Litchfield)
Lane-Fox, Lieut.-Col. George R. Rawson, Alfred Cooper Winby, Colonel L. P.
Lister, Cunliffe-, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Rentoul, G. S. Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl
Lloyd, Cyril E. (Dudley) Rice, Sir Frederick Wise, Sir Fredric
Locker-Lampson, G. (Wood Green) Richardson Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'y) Wolmer, Viscount
Loder, J. de V. Robinson, Sir T. (Lanes., Stretford) Womersley, W. J.
Looker, Herbert William Ruggles-Brise, Major E. A. Wood, B. C. (Somerset, Bridgwater)
Lougher, L. Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) Wood, Rt. Hon. E. (York, W. R., Ripon)
Lowe, Sir Francis William Rye, F. G. Wood, E. (Chest'r, Stalyb'dge & Hyde)
Luce, Major-Gen. Sir Richard Harman Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) Wood, Sir Kingsley (Woolwich, W.)
MacAndrcw, Charles Glen Sandeman, A. Stewart Wood, Sir S. Hill- (High Peak)
Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.) Sanders, Sir Robert A. Woodcock, Colonel H. C.
Macdonald, R. (Glasgow, Cathcart) Sanderson, Sir Frank Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L.
McLean, Major A. Sandon, Lord Wragg, Herbert
Macmillan, Captain H. Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D.
McNeill, Rt. Hon. Ronald John Scott, Sir Leslie (Liverp'l, Exchange) TELLERS FOR THE AYES
MacRobert, Alexander M. Shaw, R. G. (Yorks, W. R., Sowerby) Colonel Gibbs and Major Sir Harry
Maitland Sir Arthur D. Steel- Shaw, Lt.-Col. A. D. Mcl. (Renfrew, W) Barnston.
Malone, Major P. B. Shaw, Capt. W. W. (Wilts, Westb'y)
NOES.
Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) Day, Colonel Harry Henderson, T. (Glasgow)
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Dennison, R. Hirst, G. H.
Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') Duncan, C. Hirst, W. (Bradford, South)
Ammon, Charles George Fenby, T. D. Hore-Belisha, Leslie
Attlee, Clement Richard Fisher, Rt. Hon. Herbert A. L. Hudson, J. H. (Huddersfield)
Baker, J. (Wolverhampton, Bliston) Garro-Jones, Captain G. M. Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath)
Baker, Walter George, Rt. Hon. David Lloyd John, William (Rhondda, West)
Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) Gillett, George M. Johnston, Thomas (Dundee)
Barr, J. Gosling, Harry Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown)
Batey, Joseph Greenall, T. Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly)
Beckett, John (Gateshead) Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd)
Benn, Captain Wedgwood (Leith) Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) Kennedy, T.
Bromley, J. Groves, T. Kenyon, Barnet
Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) Grundy, T. W. Kirkwood, D.
Cape, Thomas Guest, J. (York, Hems worth) Lansbury, George
Cluse, W. S. Guest, Dr. L. Haden (Southwark, N.) Lee, F.
Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. Hall, F. (York, W. Ft., Normanton) Livingstone, A. M.
Collins, Sir Godfrey (Greenock) Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Aberavon)
Connolly, M. Hardie, George D. MacLaren, Andrew
Cove, W. G. Harney, E. A. Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan)
Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities) Harris, Percy A. March, S.
Crawfurd, H. E. Hartshorn, Rt. Hon. Vernon Maxton, James
Dalton, Hugh Hayes, John Henry Montague, Frederick
Davies, Evan (Ebbw Vale) Henderson, Rt. Hon. A, (Burnley) Morris, R. H.
Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston) Wallhead, Richard C.
Murnin, H. Shiels, Dr. Drummond Walsh, Rt. Hon. Stephen
Naylor T. E. Sitch, Charles H. Warne, G. H.
Oliver, George Harold Slesser, Sir Henry H. Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline)
Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. Smillie, Robert Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda)
Ponsonby, Arthur Smith, Ben (Bermondsey, Rotherhithe) Westwood, J.
Potts, John S. Smith, H. B. Lees (Keighley) Whiteley, W.
Richardson R. (Houghton-le-Spring) Smith, Rennie (Penistone) Wilkinson, Ellen C.
Riley, Ben Snell, Harry Williams, David (Swansea, East)
Ritson, J. Snowden, Rt. Hon. Philip Williams, Dr. J. H. (Llanelly)
Roberts, Rt. Hon. F. O. (W. Bromwich) Stephen, Campbell Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe)
Robertson, J. (Lanark, Bothwell) Sutton, J. E. Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow)
Robinson, W. C. (Yorks, W. R. Elland) Taylor, R. A. Wright, W.
Rose, Frank H. Thomson, Trevelyan (Middlesbro, W.)
Salter, Dr. Alfred Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton, E.) TELLERS FOR THE NOES.
Scrymgeour, E. Tinker, John Joseph Mr. Allen Parkinson and Mr.
Scurr, John Varley, Frank B. Charles Edwards.
Sexton, James Viant, S. P.