HC Deb 26 May 1924 vol 174 cc24-5
38. Lieut.-Colonel Sir F. HALL

asked the Prime Minister whether the German military forces are now in excess of the strength allowed under the Treaty of Versailles; and whether the German Government have carried out the requirements of the Treaty as regards the abolition of the great German general staff and similar organisations?

Mr. CLYNES

To the best of my information the answer to the first part of the question is in the negative, so far as the regular German military forces are concerned. As regards the latter part of the question, the great German general staff has been abolished and there is now a single Ministry of Defence which, however, includes a general staff section.

Sir F. HALL

When the right hon. Gentleman uses the words "the regular German military forces," does he mean the troops that have now been provided are not in excess of the Versailles Treaty?

Mr. CLYNES

The Government are far from being satisfied with respect to the point covered in the first part of my answer.

Sir F. HALL

Will the right hon. Gentleman take steps to get in touch with the German Government to see that they carry out the most important. Clauses; and what steps do the Government intend to take to see that the Treaty in enforced?

Mr. CLYNES

The terms of the second part of my reply raise a point of law which I am unable at the moment to answer.

Major COLFOX

Will the right hon. Gentleman say how it comes about that the Government are the only people who do not know these facts?

Sir H. BRITTAIN

Are not many socalled patriotic societies running a regular military control in Germany?

Mr. CLYNES

That is covered by the first part of my reply.