HC Deb 18 June 1924 vol 174 cc2114-6
41. Lord EUSTACE PERCY

asked the Minister of Health whether he has received any written guarantee or offer from the building trade, other than the Report of the National House Building Committee, or any written intimation from the trade that they regard his arrangement with the local authorities as satisfying the conditions laid down in that Report; and, if so, whether he will communicate to the House in full the terms of the communications in question?

Mr. WHEATLEY

The offer from the building trade is contained in the Report to which the Noble Lord refers.

Lord E. PERCY

Would the right hon. Gentleman reply to the last part of my question, whether any intimation has been received by the Minister that the trade regard the arrangement made by the Minister with the local authorities as satisfying the conditions laid down in the Report?

Mr. D. G. SOMERVILLE

Do I understand the right hon. Gentleman to state that the Bricklayers' Union have now definitely agreed to this Report?

Mr. WHEATLEY

I have no evidence that there is any dissatisfaction with the arrangement in the building industry. I can assure the Noble Lord that he may rest content that everything is proceeding very smoothly and satisfactorily.

Lord E. PERCY

Has the Minister received any intimation that the building trade is satisfied with the waiving of certain conditions which they specifically laid down?

Mr. WHEATLEY

No. I have already stated that I have had no indication that they are not satisfied.

Mr. SOMERVILLE

May I have a reply to my question?

63. Sir K. WOOD

asked the Minister of Health what arrangements, if any, have been made whereby adult building trade labourers can be utilised for augmenting craftsmen's labour in connection with the Government's housing scheme?

Mr. WHEATLEY

The building industry propose that building trade labourers shall be accepted as apprentices under their scheme for augmenting the industry; and while apprentices are ordinarily to be accepted up to the age of 20, special arrangements may be made in the case of building trade labourers.

Mr. HOPE SIMPSON

Can the right hon. Gentleman tell us whether this means that a labourer will have to serve four years as an apprentice before he becomes a bricklayer?

Mr. WHEATLEY

It does not lie with me to determine when a man ceases to be an apprentice.

Mr. SOMERVILLE

Is it not a fact that the Bricklayers' Union objects to any man coming in over 20 years of age who has not served an apprenticeship?

Mr. WHEATLEY

It is not a fact.