HC Deb 08 July 1924 vol 175 cc2190-3

Section twenty-two of the Finance Act, 1920 (which provides for a deduction from assessable income in respect of dependent relatives), shall have effect as if for the words "twenty-five pounds" there were substituted the words "fifty pounds."—[Mr. W. A. Jenkins.]

Brought up, and read the First time.

Mr. JENKINS

I beg to move, "That the Clause be read a Second time."

Mr. SNOWDEN

This proposal falls within the category of those minor Amendments of the Income Tax which might be considered when a favourable opportunity arises, but it is quite impossible that I should accept this Amendment. I have already promised two concessions, and really I would ask the Mover to postpone this proposal, for which there is a great deal to be said on its merits. When the opportunity comes for trying to remove the pinch where it is rather severely felt, this is one of the matters which should receive attention.

Mr. JENKINS

In view of the sympathetic remarks of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, I beg to ask leave to withdraw the Clause.

HON. MEMBERS

No!

Mr. D. HERBERT

May we ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer to tell us what would be the cost of this concession? That seems to be the important thing in this Amendment. [An HON. MEMBER: "Enough to buy another hat!"]

Mr. BALFOUR

If the Chancellor has now refreshed his memory, I hope he will have sufficient time to tell us what the cost would be.

Mr. SNOWDEN

I did not need to refresh my memory on that matter. The cost would be £500,000.

Question put, "That the Clause be read a Second time."

The Committee divided: Ayes, 80; Noes, 180.

Division No. 143.] AYES. [3.50 a.m.
Aske, Sir Robert William Hacking, Captain Douglas H. Philipson, Mabel
Balfour, George (Hampstead) Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) Pielou, D. P.
Barnston, Major Sir Harry Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Pownall, Lieut.-Colonel Assheton
Birchall, Major J. Dearman Harland, A. Raine, W.
Bird, Sir R. B. (Wolverhampton, W.) Harmsworth, Hon. E. C. (Kent) Rhys, Hon. C. A. V.
Blades, Sir George Rowland Harvey, C.M.B. (Aberd'n & Kincardne) Roberts, Samuel (Hereford, Hereford)
Bowyer, Captain G. E. W. Hennessy, Major J. R. G. Ropner, Major L.
Brlttatn, Sir Harry Herbert, Dennis (Hertford, Watford) Roundell, Colonel R. F.
Burman, J. B. Howard, Hn. D. (Cumberland, Northrn.) Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth)
Chadwick, Sir Robert Burton Hughes, Collingwood Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham)
Clayton, G. C. Inskip, Sir Thomas Walker H. Sandeman, A. Stewart
Cope, Major William Jenkins, W. A. (Brecon and Radnor) Savery, S. S.
Courthope, Lieut.-Col. George L. Kedward, R. M. Sheffield, Sir Berkeley
Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) Kindersley, Major G. M. Shepperson, E. W.
Curzon, Captain Viscount King, Captain Henry Douglas Smith-Carington, Neville W.
Dalkeith, Earl of Lamb, J. Q. Spero, Dr. G. E,
Dawson, Sir Philip Lumley, L. R. Steel, Samuel Strang
Deans, Richard Storry Maitland, Sir Arthur D. Steel- Warrender, Sir Victor
Dixey, A. C. Makins, Brigadier-General E. Wells, S. R.
Eden, Captain Anthony Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C Wheler, Lieut.-Col. Granville C. H.
England, Colonel A. Morrison-Bell, Major A. C. (Honiton) Wilson, Sir Charles H. (Leeds, Central)
Eyres-Monsell, Com. Rt. Hon. B. M. Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Ferguson, H. Nicholson, O. (Westminster) Wise, Sir Fredric
Gates, Percy Nield, Rt. Hon. Sir Herbert Yerburgh, Major Robert D. T.
Gaunt, Rear-Admiral Sir Guy R. O'Neill, Rt. Hon. Hugh
Gibbs. Col. Rt. Hon. George Abraham Penny, Frederick George TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Greene, W, P. Crawford Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) Sir Philip Richardson and Mr
Greenwood, William (Stockport) Perkins, Colonel E. K. Remer.
NOES.
Ackroyd, T. R. Clarke, A. Falconer, J.
Adamson, Rt. Hon. William Climie, R. Fletcher, Lieut.-Com. R. T. H.
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Collins, Sir Godfrey (Greenock) Gardner, B. W. (West Ham, Upton)
Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro) Compton, Joseph George, Major G. L. (Pembroke)
Ammon, Charles George Comyns-Carr, A. S. Gibbins, Joseph
Attlee, Major Clement R. Costello, L. W. J. Gillett, George M.
Baker, Walter Cove. W. G. Gorman, William
Banton, G. Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities) Gosling, Harry
Barclay, R. Noton Crittall, V. G. Gould, Frederick (Somerset, Frome)
Barnes, A. Darbishire, C. W. Graham, W. (Edinburgh, Central)
Batey, Joseph Davies, David (Montgomery) Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Coine)
Birkett, W. N. Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) Grentell, D. R. (Glamorgan)
Bondwick, A. J. Dickie, Captain J. P. Grundy, T. W.
Briant, Frank Dickson, T. Guest, Dr. L. Haden (Southwark, N.)
Broad, F. A. Dodds, S. R. Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton)
Bromfield, William Duckworth, John Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvll)
Brown, A. E. (Warwick, Rugby) Dukes, C. Hardle, George D.
Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) Duncan, C. Hartshorn, Rt. Hon. Vernon
Buckle, J. Edwards, G.(Norfolk, Southern) Harvey, T. E. (Dewsbury)
Charleton, H. C. Egan, W. H Haycock, A. W.
Hayday, Arthur Mansel, Sir Courtenay Smith, W. R. (Norwich)
Henderson, A. (Cardiff, South) March, S. Snell, Harry
Henderson, T. (Glasgow) Marley, James Snowden, Rt. Hon. Philip
Henderson, W. W. (Middlesex, Enfld.) Martin, F. (Aberdeen & Kinc'dine, E.) Spence, R.
Hillary, A. E. Martin, W. H. (Dumbarton) Spoor, B. G.
Hindle, F. Middleton, G. Stamford, T. W.
Hirst, G. H. Mills, J. E. Starmer, Sir Charles
Hobhouse, A. L. Mond, H. Stranger, Innes Harold
Hodges, Frank Morris, R. H. Sturrock, J. Leng
Hoffman, P. C. Morrison, Herbert (Hackney, South) Sunlight, J.
Howard, Hon. G. (Bedford, Luton) Morrison, R, C. (Tottenham, N.) Tattersall, J. L.
Hudson, J. H. Morse, W. E. Terrington, Lady
Isaacs, G. A. Mosley, Oswald Thomas, Rt. Hon. James H. (Derby)
Jackson, R. F. (Ipswich) Moulton, Major Fletcher Thomson, Trevelyan (Mlddlesbro. W.)
Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) Murray, Robert Thornton, Maxwell R.
John, William (Rhondda, West) Murrell, Frank Thurtle, E.
Johnston, Thomas (Stirling) Naylor, T. E. Tout, W. J.
Johnstone, Harcourt (Willesden, East) Nixon, H. Vivian, H.
Jones, C. Sydney (Liverpool, W. Derby) Oliver, P. M. (Manchester, Blackley) Wallhead, Richard C.
Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) Owen, Major G. Ward, G. (Leicester, Bosworth)
Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) Paling, W. Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline)
Jones, Rt. Hon. Leif (Camborne) Palmer, E. T. Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda)
Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan) Wedgwood, Col. Rt. Hon. Joslah C.
Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) Pattinson, S. (Horncastle) Whiteley, W.
Jowitt, W. A. (The Hartlepools) Perry, S. F. Williams, A. (York, W. R., Sowerby)
Kay, Sir R. Newbald Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. Williams, David (Swansea, E.)
Keens, T. Phillipps, Vivian Williams, Dr. J. H. (Llanelly)
Kennedy, T. Potts, John S. Williams, Col. P. (Middlesbrough, E.)
Kirkwood, D. Purcell, A. A. Williams, Lt.-Col. T.S.B. (Kenningtn.)
Lansbury, George Raffety, F. W. Williams, Maj. R. (Kent, Sevenoaks)
Laverack, F. J. Rathbone, Hugh R. Williams, T. (York, Don Valley)
Law, A. Rea, W. Russell Willison, H.
Lawson, John James Richards, R. Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe)
Leach, W. Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) Wilson, Colonel M. J. (Richmond)
Lee, F. Romeril, H. G. Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow)
Lessing, E. Royle, C. Windsor, Walter
Linfield, F. C. Scurr, John Wright, W.
Loverseed, J. F. Seely, H. M. (Norfolk, Eastern) Young, Andrew (Glasgow, Partick)
Lunn, William Sexton, James
McEntee, V. L. Sherwood, George Henry TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Mackinder, W. Short, Alfred (Wednesbury) Mr. John Robertson and Mr.
Maclean, Neil (Glasgow, Govan) Smith, Ben (Bermondsey, R'hithe) Warne.