62. Mr. EDMUND HARVEY
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether any record has been kept of the number of visits paid in recent years to prisons by His Majesty's Judges and by magistrates other than visiting magistrates?
§ Mr. STRANGER
Does the hon. Gentleman not think it desirable that Judges and magistrates should visit prisons in order to administer justice properly? Will he take steps to invite Judges and magistrates to visit a prison?
§ Major COLFOX
Can the right hon. Gentleman say how many visits have been paid to prison by members of the Labour party in capacities other than those of visitors?
63. Mr. HARVEY
asked the Home Secretary whether steps have been, or will be, taken to invite all magistrates actually undertaking duties upon the Bench to visit a prison within an early date of their first undertaking these duties?
My right hon. Friend has no reason to suppose that there is any need to remind magistrates of their right to visit any prison to which their Bench may commit prisoners. Magistrates are not appointed by my right hon. Friend, but he will consider, in consultation with the Lord Chancellor, whether it would be feasible to invite newly-appointed magistrates to visit a prison.
I am much obliged for that answer. May I ask the hon. Member whether he is aware that sometimes magistrates sit for 20 years on the Bench without ever visiting a prison?
§ Major HORE-BELISHA
Are not the only occasions on which they do visit prisons when they are conscientious objectors, when they are immediately removed from their job? [Interruption.]
§ Mr. SPEAKER
If the hon. Member has a point of Order to raise, will he please not swing his arms across the House, but address me.
§ Mr. FERGUSON
Is it in order for any hon. Member of this House to use the word "swine" to another hon. Member? It is a gutter-snipe sort of expression.
§ Mr. SPEAKER
Certainly it is grossly disorderly to use such a word. So, also, is the phrase used by the hon. Member.