HC Deb 25 July 1923 vol 167 cc620-3

"That a sum, not exceeding £10,343,849, be granted to His Majesty, to complete the sum necessary to defray the Charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1924, for Expenditure in respect of the Services included in Class VII of the Estimates for Civil Services, namely:

£
3. Ministry of Labour 10,187,005
4. National Insurance, Audit Department 116,590
5. Friendly Societies' Deficiency 6,254
6. Grants to Voluntary Hospitals 34,000
£10,343,849"

Question put.

The Committe divided: Ayes, 326; Noes, 177.

Division No. 316.] AYES. [11.8p.m
Adkins, Sir William Ryland Dent Betterton, Henry B. Cadogan, Major Edward
Agg-Gardner, Sir James Tynte Birchall, Major J. Dearman Campion, Lieut.-Colonel W. R.
Ainsworth, Captain Charles Blades, Sir George Rowland Cassels, J. D.
Alexander, E. E. (Leyton, East) Blundell, F. N. Cautley, Henry Strother
Alexander, Col. M. (Southwark) Bowyer, Capt. G. E. W. Cayzer, Sir C. (Chester, City)
Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. Boyd-Carpenter, Major A. Cecil, Rt. Hon. Sir Evelyn (Aston)
Apsley, Lord Brass, Captain W. Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord H. (Ox. Univ.)
Archer-Shee, Lieut.-Col. Sir Martin Brassey, Sir Leonard Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord R. (Hitchin)
Ashley, Lt.-Col. Wilfrid W. Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William Clive Chadwick, Sir Robert Burton
Astor, J. J. (Kent, Dover) Brittain, Sir Harry Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Ladywood)
Astor, Viscountess Brown, Brig.-Gen. Clifton (Newbury) Chapman, Sir S.
Baird, Rt. Hon. Sir John Lawrence Brown, Major D. C. (Hexham) Chilcott, Sir Warden
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Brown, J. W. (Middlesbrough, E.) Churchman, Sir Arthur
Balfour, George (Hampstead) Bruford, R. Clarry, Reginald George
Banbury, Rt. Hon. Sir Frederick G. Bruton, Sir James Clayton, G. C.
Banks, Mitchell Buckingham, Sir H. Cobb, Sir Cyril
Barlow, Rt. Hon. Sir Montague Buckley, Lieut.-Colonel A. Cockerill, Brigadier-General G. K.
Barnett, Major Richard W. Bull, Rt. Hon. Sir William James Cohen, Major J. Brunel
Barnston, Major Harry Burn, Colonel Sir Charles Rosdew Colfox, Major Wm. Phillips
Barrie, Sir Charles Coupar (Banff) Burney, Corn. (Middx., Uxbridge) Collie, Sir John
Becker, Harry Butcher, Sir John George Colvin, Brig.-General Richard Beale
Bell, Lieut.-Col. W. C. H. (Devizes) Butler, H. M. (Leeds, North) Cope, Major William
Bellairs, Commander Carryon W. Butler, J. R. M. (Cambridge Univ.) Cory, Sir J. H. (Cardiff, South)
Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) Butt, Sir Alfred Cotts, Sir William Dingwall Mitchell
Berry, Sir George Button, H. S. Craig, Captain C. C. (Antrim, South)
Craik, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry Hurd, Percy A. Remer, J. R.
Croft, Lieut.-Colonel Henry Page Hurst, Gerald B. Remnant, Sir James
Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) Hutchison, G. A. C. (Midlothian, N.) Reynolds, W. G. W.
Curzon, Captain Viscount Hutchison, Sir R. (Kirkcaldy) Rhodes, Lieut.-Col. J. P.
Dalziel, Sir D. (Lambeth, Brixton) Hutchison, W. (Kelvingrove) Richardson, Sir Alex. (Gravesend)
Davidson, J. C. C. (Hemel Hempstead) Inskip, Sir Thomas Walker H. Richardson, Lt.-Col. Sir P. (Chertsey)
Davidson, Major-General Sir J. H. Jackson. Lieut.-Colonel Hon. F. S. Roberts, Rt. Hon. G. H. (Norwich)
Davies, Alfred Thomas (Lincoln) Jodrell, Sir Neville Paul Roberts, Samuel (Hereford, Hereford)
Davies, Thomas (Cirencester) Johnson, Sir L. (Waithamstow, E.) Robertson-Despencer, Major (Islgtn,W)
Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) Jones, G. W. H. (Stoke Newington) Robinson, Sir T. (Lancs., Stretford)
Dawson, Sir Philip Kelley, Major Sir Frederick A. Rogerson, Capt. J. E.
Dixon, C. H. (Rutland) Kennedy, Captain M. S. Nigel Rothschild, Lionel de
Doyle, N. Grattan Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement Roundell, Colonel R. F.
Dudgeon, Major C. R. Lamb, J. Q. Ruggies-Brise, Major E.
Du Pre, Colonel William Baring Lane-Fox, Lieut.-Colonel G. R. Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth)
Edge, Captain Sir William Leigh, Sir John (Clapham) Russell, William (Bolton)
Edmondson, Major A. J. Lloyd, Cyril E. (Dudley) Russell-Wells, Sir Sydney
Ednam, Viscount Lloyd-Greame, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham)
Elliot, Capt. Waiter E. (Lanark) Locker-Lampoon, Com. O. (Handsw'th) Sanders, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert A.
Ellis, R. G. Lorden, John William Sanderson, Sir Frank B.
England, Lieut.-Colonel A. Loimer, H. D. Sandon, Lord
Erskine, James Malcolm Monteith Lougher, L. Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D.
Erskine, Lord (Weston-super-Mare) Lowe, Sir Francis William Scott, Sir Leslie (Liverp'1, Exchange)
Erskine-Bolst, Captain C. Loyd, Arthur Thomas (Abingdon) Sheffield, Sir Berkeley
Evans, Capt H. Arthur (Leicester, E.) Lumley, L. R. Shepperson, E. W.
Evans, Ernest (Cardigan) Macdonald, Sir Murdoch (Inverness) Simms, Dr. John M. (Co. Down)
Eyres-Monsell, Com. Rt. Hon.Sir B. M. Macnaghten, Hon. Sir Malcolm Simpson-Hinchiiffe, W. A.
Falcon, Captain Michael McNeill, Ronald (Kent, Canterbury) Sinclair, Sir A.
Falle, Major Sir Bertram Godfray Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I. Singleton, J. E.
Fawkes, Major F. H. Maddocks, Sir Henry Skelton, A. N.
Fermor-Hesketh, Major T. Maitland, Sir Arthur D. Steel- Smith, Sir Allan M. (Croydon, South)
Flanagan, W. H. Makins, Brigadier-General E. Smith, Sir Harold (Wavertree)
Foreman, Sir Henry Malone, Major P. B. (Tottenham, S.) Somerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Forestier-Walker, L. Manville, Edward Somerville, Daniel (Barrow-in-Furness)
Foxcroft, Captain Charles Talbot Margesson, H. D. R. Spears, Brig.-Gen. E. L.
Fraser, Major Sir Keith Marks, Sir George Croydon Spender-Clay, Lieut.-Colonel H. H.
Frece, Sir Walter de Mason, Lieut.-Col. C. K. Stanley, Lord
Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. Mercer, Colonel H. Steel, Major. S. Strang
Furness, G. J. Milne, J. S. Wardlaw Stephenson, Lieut.-Colonel H. K.
Galbraith, J. F. W. Mitchell, W. F. (Saffron Walden) Stewart, Gershom (Wirral)
Ganzoni, Sir John Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Stockton, Sir Edwin Forsyth
Gardiner, James Molloy, Major L. G. S. Stott, Lt.-Col. W. H.
Garland, C. S. Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C. Strauss, Edward Anthony
Gaunt. Rear-Admiral Sir Guy R. Morden, Col. W. Grant Stuart, Lord C. Crichton-
George, Major G. L. (Pembroke) Moreing, Captain Algernon H. Sturrock, J. Leng
Gibbs, Col. Rt. Hon. George Abraham Morris, Harold Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser
Gilbert, James Daniel Morrison, Hugh (Wilts, Salisbury) Sugden, Sir Wilfrid H.
Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John Morrison-Bell,Major Sir A. C. (Honiton) Sutherland, Rt. Hon. Sir William
Goff, Sir R. Park Murchison, C. K. Sykes, Major-Gen. Sir Frederick H.
Gray, Harold (Cambridge) Nall, Major Joseph Thompson, Luke (Sunderland)
Gretton, Colonel John Newman, Colonel J. R. P. (Finchley) Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South)
Guest, Hon. C. H. (Bristol, N.) Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) Thorpe, Captain John Henry
Guinness, Lieut.-Col. Hon. W. E. Newson, Sir Percy Wilson Titchfield, Marquess of
Guthrie, Thomas Maule Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Gwynne, Rupert S. Nicholson, Brig.-Gen. J. (Westminster) Tubbs, S. W.
Hacking, Captain Douglas H. Nicholson, William G. (Petersfield) Turton, Edmund Russborough
Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) Nield, Sir Herbert Wallace, Captain E.
Hall, Rr-Adml Sir W. (Liv'p'1,W.D'by) Norman, Major Rt. Hon. Sir Henry Ward, Col. L. (Kingston-upon-Hull)
Halstead, Major D. O'Neill, Rt. Hon. Hugh Ward, Col. J. (Stoke-upon-Trent)
Hamilton, Sir George C. (Altrincham) Ormsby-Gore, Hon. William Waring, Major Walter
Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Paget, T. G. Warner, Sir T. Courtenay T.
Harmsworth, Hon. E. C. (Kent) Parker, Owen (Kettering) Watson, Capt. J. (Stockton-on-Tees)
Harrison, F. C. Pease, William Edwin Watts, Dr. T. (Man., Withington)
Harvey, Major S. E. Pennefather, De Fonblanque Wells, S. R.
Hawke, John Anthony Penny, Frederick George Weston, Colonel John Wakefield
Hay, Major T. W. (Norfolk, South) Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) Wheler, Col. Granville C. H.
Henderson, Sir T. (Roxburgh) Perkins, Colonel E. K. White, Lt.-Col. G. D. (Southport)
Henn, Sir Sydney H. Perring, William George Wilson, Col. M. J. (Richmond)
Herbert, Col. Hon. A. (Yeovil) Peto, Basil E. Wilson, Lt.-Col. Leslie O. (P'tsm'th, S.)
Herbert, Dennis (Hertford, Watford) Philipson, Mabel Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Herbert, S. (Scarborough) Pielou, D. P. Winterton, Earl
Hilder, Lieut.-Colonel Frank Pilditch, Sir Philip Wise, Frederick
Hiley, Sir Ernest Pollock, Rt. Hon. Sir Ernest Murray Wolmer, Viscount
Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G. Pownall, Lieut.-Colonel Assheton Wood, Sir H. K. (Woolwich, West)
Hogg, Rt. Hon. Sir D. (St. Marylebone) Price, E. G. Wood, Major Sir S. Hill- (High Peak)
Hohler, Gerald Fitzroy Privett, F. J. Woodcock, Colonel H. C.
Hood, Sir Joseph Rae, Sir Henry N. Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L.
Hopkins, John W. W. Raeburn, Sir William H. Yate, Colonel Sir Charles Edward
Horne, Sir R. S. (Glasgow, Hillhead) Raine, W. Yerburgh, R. D. T.
Houfton, John Plowright Rankin, Captain James Stuart Young, Rt. Hon. E. H. (Norwich)
Howard, Capt. D. (Cumberland, N.) Rawlinson, Rt. Hon. John Fredk. Peel
Howard-Bury, Lieut.-Col. C. K. Rawson, Lieut.-Com. A. C. TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Hudson, Capt. A. Rees, Sir Beddoe Captain Douglas King and Major Hennessy.
Hume, G. H. Reid, Capt. A. S. C. (Warrington)
Hunter-Weston, Lt.-Gen. Sir Aylmer Reid, D. D. (County Down)
NOES.
Adams, D Harney, E. A. Ponsonby, Arthur
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Harris, Percy A. Potts, John S.
Adamson, Rt. Hon. William Hartshorn, Vernon Pringle, W. M. R.
Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') Hastings, Patrick Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring)
Ammon, Charles George Hay, Captain J. P. (Cathcart) Ritson, J.
Attlee, C. R. Hayday, Arthur Roberts, C. H. (Derby)
Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) Henderson, T. (Glasgow) Roberts, Frederick O. (W. Bromwich)
Barnes, A. Herriotts, J. Robertson, J. (Lanark, Bothwell)
Batey, Joseph Hill, A. Robinson, W. C. (York, Elland)
Benn, Captain Wedgwood (Leith) Hinds, John Rose, Frank H.
Berkeley, Captain Reginald Hirst, G. H. Royce, William Stapleton
Bonwick, A. Hodge, Rt. Hon. John Saklatvala, S.
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. Hodge, Lieut.-Col. J. P. (Preston) Salter, Dr. A.
Briant, Frank Irving, Dan Scrymgeour, E.
Broad, F. A. Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) Sexton, James
Bromfield, William John, William (Rhondda, West) Shaw, Thomas (Preston)
Brotherton, J. Johnston, Thomas (Stirling) Shinwell, Emanuel
Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) Johnstone, Harcourt (Willesden, East) Short, Alfred (Wednesbury)
Buckle, J. Jones, Henry Haydn, (Merioneth) Simpson, J. Hope
Burgess, S. Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) Sitch, Charles H.
Burnie, Major J. (Bootle) Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Smillie, Robert
Buxton, Charles (Accrington) Jones, R. T. (Carnarvon) Smith, T. (Pontefract)
Buxton, Noel (Norfolk, North) Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) Snell, Harry
Cape, Thomas Jowett, F. W. (Bradford, East) Snowden, Philip
Chapple, W. A. Jowitt W. A. (The Hartlepools) Spencer, H. H. (Bradford, S.)
Charleton, H. C. Kenyon, Barnet Stewart, J. (St. Rollox)
Clarke, Sir E. C. Kirkwood, D. Sullivan, J.
Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. Lambert, Rt. Hon. George Thomas, Rt. Hon. James H. (Derby)
Collins, Sir Godfrey (Greenock) Lansbury, George Thomas, Sir Robert John (Anglesey)
Collison, Levi Lawson, John James Thomson, T. (Middlesbrough, West)
Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities) Leach, W. Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton, E.)
Darbishire, C. W. Lee, F. Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
Davies, Evan (Ebbw Vale) Lees-Smith, H. B. (Kelghley) Tillett, Benjamin
Davies, J. C. (Denbigh, Denbigh) Linfield, F. C. Tout, W. J.
Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) Lowth, T. Trevelyan, C. P.
Davison, J. E. (Smethwick) Lunn, William Turner, Ben
Duffy, T. Gavan MacDonald, J. R. (Aberavon) Wallhead, Richard C.
Duncan, C. M'Entee, V. L. Walsh, Stephen (Lancaster, Ince)
Dunnico, H. McLaren, Andrew Warne, G. H.
Ede, James Chuter Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan) Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline)
Edmonds, G. March, S. Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda)
Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) Marshall, Sir Arthur H. Webb, Sidney
Emlyn-Jones, J. E. (Dorset, N.) Martin, F. (Aberd'n & Kincard'ne, E.) Wedgwood, Colonel Josiah C.
Entwistle, Major C. F. Middleton, G. Weir, L. M.
Fairbairn, R. R. Millar, J. D. Westwood, J.
Falconer, J. Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) White, Charles F. (Derby, Western)
Foot, Isaac Mosley, Oswald White, H. G. (Birkenhead, E.)
Gosling, Harry Muir, John W. Whiteley, W.
Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) Murnin, H. Williams, David (Swansea, E.)
Graham, W. (Edinburgh, Central) Murray, Hon. A. C. (Aberdeen) Williams, Dr. J. H. (Llanelly)
Greenall, T. Murray, R. (Renfrew, Western) Williams, T.,(York, Don Valley)
Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) Newbold, J. T. W. Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe)
Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) O'Grady, Captain James Wintringham, Margaret
Groves, T. Oliver, George Harold Wood, Major M. M. (Aberdeen, C.)
Grundy, T. W. Paling, W. Wright, W.
Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) Parker, H. (Hanley) Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton)
Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan)
Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland) Pattinson, R. (Grantham) TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Mr. Arthur Henderson and Mr. Spoor.
Hancock, John George Pattinson, S. (Horncastle)
Harbord, Arthur Phillipps, Vivian
Hardie, George D.

Question put, and agreed to.