§ (1) This Act may be cited as the Railways (Authorisation of Works) Act, 1923.
§ (2) This Act shall continue in force for two years and no longer unless Parliament otherwise provides; but the expiration of this Act shall not affect the validity of any order for which application has been previously made thereunder.
§ Mr. T. JOHNSTONI beg to move, in Sub-section (2), to leave out the words"two years,"and to insert instead thereof the words"one year."
386 The purpose of this Amendment is perfectly obvious. we drsire, as far as possible, to limit what we think to be the absolute power handed over to the railway companies under this Bill to one year instead of two years.
§ Mr. W. GRAHAMI beg to second the Amendment.
§ Colonel ASHLEYI could not possibly accept this Amendment, in view of the fact that I am asking that the powers of this Bill should last for only two years, and in view of the fact that no one can say that there will not be considerable un- 387 employment the year after next. It would, obviously, be absurd to take powers only to deal with this coming winter.
§ Question put, "That the words 'two years' stand part of the Bill."
§ The House divided:—Ayes, 190; Noes, 105.
389| Division No. 307.] | AYES. | [11.50 p.m. |
| Agg-Gardner, Sir James Tynte | Ganzonl, Sir John | Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) |
| Ainsworth, Captain Charles | Garland, C. S. | Nicholson, William G. (Petersfield) |
| Alexander, Col. M. (Southwark) | Gaunt, Rear-Admiral Sir Guy R. | O'Neill, Rt. Hon. Hugh |
| Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M.S. | Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John | Oman, Sir Charles William C. |
| Ashley, Lt.-Col. Wlifrid W. | Gould, James C. | Paget, T. G. |
| Astor, J J. (Kent, Dover) | Greenwood, William (Stockport) | Parker, Owen (Kettering) |
| Baird, Rt. Hon. Sir John Lawrence | Grenfell, Edward C. (City of London) | Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) |
| Balfour, George (Hampstead) | Gretton, Colonel John | Perkins, Colonel E. K. |
| Barlow, Rt. Hon. Sir Montague | Guthrie, Thomas Maule | Peto, Basil E. |
| Barnett, Major Richard W. | Gwynne, Rupert S. | Privett, F. J. |
| Barnston, Major Harry | Hacking, Captain Douglas H. | Raine, W. |
| Barrie, Sir Charles Coupar (Banff) | Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) | Rawson, Lieut.-Com. A. C. |
| Becker, Harry | Halstead, Major D. | Rees, Sir Beddoe |
| Bell, Lieut.-Col. W. C H. (Devizes) | Hamilton, Sir George C. (Altrincham) | Reid, Capt. A. S. C. (Warrington) |
| Bennett, Sir T. J. (Sevenoaks) | Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry | Remnant, Sir James |
| Betterton, Henry B. | Harrison, F. C. | Rentoul, G. S. |
| Birchall, Major J. Dearman | Harvey, Major S. E. | Rhodes, Lieut.-Col. J. P. |
| Blundell, F. N. | Hawke, John Anthony | Richardson, Lt.-Col. Sir P. (Chertsey) |
| Bowyer, Capt. G. E. W. | Hay, Major T. W. (Norfolk, South) | Roberts, Samuel (Hereford, Hereford) |
| Boyd-Carpenter, Major A. | Henderson, Sir T. (Roxburgh) | Robertson-Despencer,Major(Islgtn,W) |
| Brassey, Sir Leonard | Henn, Sir Sydney H | Robinson, Sir T. (Lancs, Stretford) |
| Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William Clive | Hennessy, Major J. R. G. | Rogerson, Capt. J. E. |
| Brittain, Sir Harry | Herbert, Dennis (Hertford, Watford) | Roundell, Colonel R. F. |
| Brown, Brig.-Gen. Clifton (Newbury) | Hiley, Sir Ernest | Ruggles-Brise, Major E. |
| Brown, Major D. C. (Hexham) | Hogg, Rt. Hon. Sir D. (St. Marylebone) | Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) |
| Brown, J. W. (Middlesbrough, E.) | Hohler, Gerald Fitzroy | Russell, William (Bolton) |
| Bruford, R. | Holbrook, Sir Arthur Richard | Russell-Wells, Sir Sydney |
| Bruton, Sir James | Hood, Sir Joseph | Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) |
| Buckley, Lieut.-Colonel A. | Hopkins, John W. W. | Sanderson, Sir Frank B. |
| Butt, Sir Alfred | Hopkinson, A. (Lancaster, Mossley) | Sandon, Lord |
| Button, H. S. | Horne, Sir R. S. (Glasgow, Hillhead) | Simms, Dr. John M. (Co. Down) |
| Cadogan, Major Edward | Houfton, John Plowright | Simpson-Hinchliffe, W. A. |
| Cautley, Henry Strother | Howard, Capt. D. (Cumberland, N.) | Singleton, J. E. |
| Cecil, Rt. Hon. Sir Evelyn (Aston) | Hudson, Capt. A. | Smith, Sir Allan M. (Croydon, South) |
| Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord R. (Hitchin) | Hume, G. H. | Somerville, A. A. (Windsor) |
| Clayton, G. C. | Hutchison, G. A. C. (Midlothian, N.) | Somerville, Daniel (Barrow-in-Furness) |
| Cobb, Sir Cyril | Inskip, Sir Thomas Walker H. | Spears, Brig.-Gen. E. L. |
| Colfox, Major Wm. Phillips | Jephcott, A. R. | Steel, Major S. Strang |
| Colvin, Brig.-General Richard Beale | Jodrell, Sir Neville Paul | Stuart, Lord C. Crichton- |
| Cope, Major William | Kennedy, Captain M. S. Nigel | Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser |
| Craig, Captain C. C. (Antrim, South) | King, Captain Henry Douglas | Sugden, Sir Wilfrid H. |
| Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) | Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement | Sutherland, Rt. Hon. Sir William |
| Curzon, Captain Viscount | Lamb, J. Q. | Sykes, Major-Gen. Sir Frederick H. |
| Davidson, J. C. C. (Hemel Hempstead) | Lane-Fox, Lieut.-Colonel G. R. | Thompson, Luke (Sunderland) |
| Davidson, Major-General Sir J. H. | Lloyd, Cyril E. (Dudley) | Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South) |
| Davies, Thomas (Cirencester) | Lloyd-Greame, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip | Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement |
| Dudgeon, Major C. R. | Lorimer, H. D. | Tubbs, S. W. |
| Du Pre, Colonel William Baring | Laugher, L. | Turton, Edmund Russborough |
| Edge, Captain Sir William | Loyd, Arthur Thomas (Abingdon) | Wallace, Captain E. |
| Edmondson, Major A. J. | Lumley, L. R. | Watts, Dr. T. (Man., Withington) |
| Ednam, Viscount | Lyle-Samuel, Alexander | Wells, S. R. |
| Ellis, R. G. | Manville, Edward | Weston, Colonel John Wakefield |
| England, Lieut.-Colonel A. | Margesson, H. D. R. | Wheler, Col. Granville C. H. |
| Erskine-Bolst, Captain C. | Mason, Lieut.-Col. C. K. | Wilson, Col. M. J. (Richmond) |
| Evans, Ernest (Cardigan) | Mercer, Colonel H. | Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George |
| Falle, Major Sir Bertram Godfray | Milne, J. S. Wardlaw | Wise, Frederick |
| Fawkes, Major F. H. | Mitchell, W. F. (Saffron Walden) | Wolmer, Viscount |
| Fermor-Hesketh, Major T. | Molloy, Major L. G. S. | Wood, Maj. Sir S. Hill- (High Peak) |
| Flanagan, W. H. | Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C. | Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L. |
| Ford, Patrick Johnston | Moreing, Captain Algernon H. | Yerburgh, R. D. T. |
| Foxcroft, Captain Charles Talbot | Morrison-Bell, Major Sir A.C. (Honiton) | |
| Fraser, Major Sir Keith | Murchison, C. K. | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Colonel Leslie Wilson and Colonel the Rt. Hon. G. A. Gibbs. |
| Fremantle, Lleut-Colonel Francis E. | Nall, Major Joseph | |
| Furness, G. J. | Newman, Colonel J. R. P. (Finchley) | |
| Galbraith, J. F. W. | Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) | |
| NOES. | ||
| Acland, Rt. Hon. Francis Dyke | Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. | Collison, Levi |
| Adamson, Rt. Hon. William | Briant, Frank | Darbishire, C. W. |
| Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) | Brotherton, J. | Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) |
| Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hilisbro') | Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) | Davison, J. E. (Smethwick) |
| Ammon, Charles George | Buckle, J. | Duncan, C. |
| Barnes, A. | Burnie, Major J. (Bootie) | Ede, James Chuter |
| Bann, Captain Wedgwood (Leith) | Buxton, Charles (Accrington) | Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwelity) |
| Bonwick, A. | Chapple, W. A. | Entwistle, Major C. F. |
| Bowdier, W. A. | Charleton, H. C. | Foot, Isaac |
| Gosling, Harry | Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) | Rose, Frank H. |
| Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) | Kirkwood, D. | Salter, Dr. A. |
| Graham, W. (Edinburgh, Central) | Lansbury, George | Sexton, James |
| Gray, Frank (Oxford) | Lawson, John James | Smith, T. (Pontefract) |
| Greenall, T. | Leach, W. | Snell, Harry |
| Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) | Lee, F. | Spencer, H. H. (Bradford, S.) |
| Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) | Linfield, F. C. | Sullivan, J. |
| Groves, T. | MacDonald, J. R. (Aberavon) | Thomson, T. (Middlesbrough, West) |
| Grundy, T. W. | M'Entee, V. L. | Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton, E.) |
| Hall, F. (York, W.R., Normanton) | McLaren, Andrew | Tout, W. J. |
| Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) | March, S. | Turner, Ben |
| Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland) | Marshall, Sir Arthur H. | Walsh, Stephen (Lancaster, Ince) |
| Harbord, Arthur | Martin, F. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, E.) | Warne, G. H. |
| Hardie, George D. | Murnin, H. | Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline) |
| Hay, Captain J. P. (Cathcart) | Murray, R. (Renfrew, Western) | Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda) |
| Hayday, Arthur | Newbold, J. T. W. | Westwood, J. |
| Hayes, John Henry (Edge Hill) | Oliver, George Harold | White, Charles F. (Derby. Western) |
| Herriotts, J. | Paling, W | White, H. G. (Birkenhead, E.) |
| Hill, A. | Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan) | Whiteley, W. |
| Hirst, G. H. | Phillipps, Vivian | Williams, T. (York, Don Valley) |
| Hodge, Lieut.-Col. J. P. (Preston) | Ponsonby, Arthur | Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe) |
| Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Heath) | Potts, John S. | Wintringham, Margaret |
| John, William (Rhondda, West) | Pringle, W. M. R. | Wood, Major M. M. (Aberdeen, C.) |
| Johnston, Thomas (Stirling) | Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) | Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton) |
| Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) | Ritson, J | |
| Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) | Robertson. J. (Lanark, Bothwell) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Mr. Lunn and Mr. Neil Maclean. |
| Jones, R. T. (Carnarvon) | Robinson, W. C. (York, Elland) |
§ Motion made, and Question proposed, "That the Bill be now read the Third time."
§ Capt. WEDGWOOD BENNThere is one Question that I desire to put to the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Transport. This Bill gives his Department extended powers. When this Parliament opened, I put this Question to the then Prime Minister, the right hon. gallant Member for Central Glasgow (Mr. Bonar Law): "How long is the Department going to last?" The reply was that it was to be abolished shortly. None of us would regret more than I the disappearance of the hon. and
| Division No. 308]. | AYES. | [11.58 p.m. |
| Agg-Gardner, Sir James Tynte | Button, H. S. | Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. |
| Ainsworth, Captain Charles | Cadogan, Major Edward | Furness, G. J. |
| Alexander, Col. M. (Southwark) | Cautley, Henry Strother | Galbraith, J. F. W. |
| Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. | Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord R. (Hitchin) | Ganzoni, Sir John |
| Ashley, Lt.-Col. Wilfrid W. | Clayton, G. C. | Garland, C. S. |
| Astor. J. J. (Kent, Dover) | Cobb, Sir Cyril | Gaunt, Rear-Admiral Sir Guy R. |
| Baird, Rt. Hon. Sir John Lawrence | Colfox, Major Wm. Phillips | Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John |
| Balfour, George (Hampstead) | Colvin, Brig.-General Richard Beale | Gould, James C. |
| Barlow, Rt. Hon. Sir Montague | Cope, Major William | Greenwood, William (Stockport) |
| Barnett, Major Richard W. | Craig, Captain C. C. (Antrim, South) | Grenfell, Edward C. (City of London) |
| Barnston, Major Harry | Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) | Guthrie, Thomas Maule |
| Barrie, Sir Charles Coupar (Banff) | Curzon, Captain Viscount | Gwynne, Rupert S. |
| Bell, Lieut.-Col. W. C. H. (Devizes) | Davidson, J. C. C. (Hemel Hempstead) | Hacking, Captain Douglas H. |
| Bennett, Sir T. J. (Sevenoaks) | Davidson, Major-General Sir J. H. | Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) |
| Betterton, Henry B. | Davies, Thomas (Cirencester) | Halstead, Major D. |
| Birchall, Major J. Dearman | Dudgeon, Major C. R. | Hamilton, Sir George C. (Altrincham) |
| Blundell, F. N. | Du Pre, Colonel William Baring | Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry |
| Bonwick, A. | Edge, Captain Sir William | Harrison, F. C. |
| Bowdler, W. A. | Edmondson, Major A. J. | Harvey, Major S. E. |
| Bowyer, Capt. G. E. W. | Ednam, Viscount | Hawke, John Anthony |
| Boyd-Carpenter, Major A. | Ellis, R. G. | Hay, Major T. W. (Norfolk, South) |
| Brassey, Sir Leonard | England, Lieut.-Colonel A. | Henderson, Sir T. (Roxburgh) |
| Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William Clive | Entwistle, Major C. F. | Henn, Sir Sydney H. |
| Brittain, Sir Harry | Erskine-Bolst, Captain C. | Hennessy, Major J. R. G. |
| Brown, Brig.-Gen. Clifton (Newbury) | Falle, Major Sir Bertram Godfray | Herbert, Dennis (Hertford, Watford) |
| Brown, Major D. C. (Hexham) | Fawkes, Major F. H. | Hiley, Sir Ernest |
| Brown, J. W. (Middlesbrough, E.) | Fermor-Hesketh, Major T. | Hogg, Rt. Hon. Sir D. (St. Marylebone) |
| Bruford, R. | Flanagan, W. H. | Hohier, Gerald Fitzroy |
| Bruton, Sir James | Ford, Patrick Johnston | Holbrook, Sir Arthur Richard |
| Buckley, Lieut.-Colonel A. | Foxcroft, Captain Charles Talbot | Hood, Sir Joseph |
| Butt, Sir Alfred | Fraser, Major Sir Keith | Hopkins, John W. W. |
§ gallant Gentleman the Parliamentary Secretary from the Front Bench. But there are vacancies. There is one excellent office that remains, but the details of which I can't go into. I would again ask: "How long is the Ministry of Transport going to go on?"
§ Colonel ASHLEYMy reply to the hon. and gallant Gentleman shall be a short one. It is that he must "Wait and Motion.
§ Question put. "That the Bill be now read the Third Time."
§ The House divided: Ayres, 193; Noes, 87.
391| Hopkinson, A. (Lancaster, Mossley) | Newman, Colonel J. R. P. (Finchley) | Singleton, J. E. |
| Horne, Sir R. S. (Glasgow, Hillhead) | Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) | Smith, Sir Allan M. (Croydon, South) |
| Houfton, John Plowright | Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) | Somerville, A. A. (Windsor) |
| Howard, Capt. D. (Cumberland, N.) | Nicholson, William G. (Petersfield) | Somerville, Daniel (Barrow-in-Furness) |
| Hudson, Capt. A | O'Neill, Rt. Hon. Hugh | Spears, Brig.-Gen. E. L. |
| Hume, G. H. | Oman, Sir Charles William C. | Spencer, H. H. (Bradford, S.) |
| Hutchison, G. A. C. (Midlothian, N.) | Paget, T. G. | Steel, Major S. Strang |
| Inskip, Sir Thomas Walker H. | Parker, Owen (Kettering) | Stuart, Lord C. Crichton- |
| Jephcott, A. R. | Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) | Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser |
| Jodrell, Sir Neville Paul | Perkins, Colonel E. K. | Sugden, Sir Wilfrid H. |
| Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) | Peto, Basil E. | Sutherland, Rt. Hon. Sir William |
| Kennedy, Captain M. S. Nigel | Pringle, W. M. R. | Sykes, Major-Gen. Sir Frederick H. |
| King, Captain Henry Douglas | Privett, F. J. | Thompson, Luke (Sunderland) |
| Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement | Raine, W. | Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South) |
| Lamb, J. Q. | Rawson, Lieut.-Com. A. C. | Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement |
| Lane-Fox, Lieut.-Colonel G. R. | Rees, Sir Beddoe | Tubbs, S. W. |
| Lloyd-Greame, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip | Reid, Capt. A. S. C. (Warrington) | Turton, Edmund Russborough |
| Lorimer, H. D. | Remnant, Sir James | Wallace, Captain E. |
| Lougher, L. | Rentoul, G. S. | Watts, Dr. T. (Man., Withington) |
| Loyd, Arthur Thomas (Abingdon) | Rhodes, Lieut.-Col. J. P. | Wells, S. R. |
| Lumley, L. R. | Richardson, Lt.-Col. Sir P. (Chertsey) | Weston, Colonel John Wakefield |
| Lyle-Samuel, Alexander | Roberts, Samuel (Hereford, Hereford) | Wheler, Col. Granville C. H. |
| Manville, Edward | Robertson-Despencer,Major(Isigtn,W) | Wilson, Col. M. J. (Richmond) |
| Margesson, H. D. R. | Robinson. Sir T. (Lancs., Stretford) | Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George |
| Marshall, Sir Arthur H. | Rogerson, Capt. J. E. | Wintringham, Margaret |
| Mason, Lieut.-Col. C. K. | Roundell, Colonel R. F. | Wise, Frederick |
| Mercer, Colonel H. | Ruggles-Brise, Major E. | Wolmer, Viscount |
| Milne, J. S. Wardlaw | Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) | Wood, Maj. Sir S. Hill. (High Peak) |
| Mitchell, W. F. (Saffron Walden) | Russell, William (Bolton) | Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L. |
| Molloy, Major L. G. S. | Russell-Wells, Sir Sydney | Yerburgh, R. D. T. |
| Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C. | Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) | |
| Moreing, Captain Algernon H. | Sanderson, Sir Frank B. | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Colonel Leslie Wilson and Colonel the Rt. Hon. G. A. Gibbs. |
| Morrison-Bell, Major Sir A.C. (Honiton) | Sandon, Lord | |
| Murchison, C. K. | Simms, Dr. John M. (Co. Down) | |
| Nall, Major Joseph | Simpson-Hinchliffe, W. A. |
| NOES. | ||
| Acland, Rt. Hon. Francis Dyke | Harbord, Arthur | Phillipps, Vivian |
| Adamson, Rt. Hon. William | Hardie, George D. | Ponsonby, Arthur |
| Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') | Hay, Captain J. P. (Cathcart) | Potts, John S. |
| Ammon, Charles George | Hayday, Arthur | Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) |
| Barnes, A. | Hayes, John Henry (Edge Hill) | Ritson, J. |
| Benn, Captain Wedgwood (Leith) | Herriotts, J. | Robertson, J. (Lanark, Bothwell) |
| Bowerman, RI. Hon. Charles W. | Hill, A. | Robinson, W. C. (York, Elland) |
| Briant, Frank | Hirst, G. H. | Rose, Frank H. |
| Brotherton, J. | Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) | Salter, Dr. A. |
| Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) | John, William (Rhondda, West) | Sexton, James |
| Buckle, J. | Johnston, Thomas (Stirling) | Smith, T. (Pontefract) |
| Chapple, W. A. | Jones, R. T. (Carnarvon) | Snell, Harry |
| Charleton, H. C. | Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) | Sullivan, J. |
| Collison, Levi | Kirkwood, D. | Thomson, T. (Middlesbrough, West) |
| Darbishire, C. W. | Lansbury, George | Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton, E.) |
| Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) | Lawson, John James | Tout, W. J. |
| Davison, J. E. (Smethwick) | Leach, W. | Turner, Ben |
| Ede, James Chuter | Lee, F. | Walsh, Stephen (Lancaster, Ince) |
| Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) | Linfield, F. C. | Warne, G. H. |
| Foot, Isaac | Lunn, William | Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline) |
| Gosling, Harry | Mac Donald, J. R. (Aberavon) | Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda) |
| Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) | M'Entee, V. L. | Westwood, J. |
| Gray, Frank (Oxford) | McLaren, Andrew | White, Charles F. (Derby, Western) |
| Greenall, T. | March, S. | Whiteley, W. |
| Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) | Martin, F. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, E.) | Williams, T. (York, Don Valley) |
| Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) | Murnin, H. | Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe) |
| Groves, T. | Murray, R. (Renfrew, Western) | Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton) |
| Grundy, T. W. | Newbold, J. T. W. | |
| Hall, F. (York, W.R., Normanton) | Paling, W. | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— Mr. Neil Maclean and Mr. Morgan Jones. |
| Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) | Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan) |
§ Bill accordingly read the Third time and passed, with Amendments.