HC Deb 17 July 1923 vol 166 cc2021-2
12. Sir WILLIAM DAVISON

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that, during the past three months, over 1,000 British seamen have been induced to break their contracts while in American waters in order to serve on American ships, whereby serious inconvenience has been caused to British shipping; will he ascertain how this was effected, having regard to the stringent immigration regulations enforced by the United States with regard to British immigrants; and what action the British Government have taken in the matter?

Sir P. LLOYD-GREAME

There has been an increase this year in the number of desertions from British ships in America, which is normally very considerable, but it is not possible to say what was the cause in each case.

Mr. SHINWELL

Is it not the case that one of the reasons for the large number of desertions this year is the fact that an obnoxious agreement has been entered into between the shipowners and a particular organisation, to which the men seriously object, and they are clearing out in America, in consequence?

Sir P. LLOYD-GREAME

No, I do not think there is the faintest foundation for that suggestion.

Mr. SHINWELL

Will the right hon. Gentleman take it from me—I know something about seamen, and he does not?

Sir P. LLOYD-GREAME

As the person responsible for the Mercantile Marine Department, I know something about the matter too, and I repeat the statement that I have no reason to believe there is any truth in that suggestion.

Mr. SHINWELL

rose.

Mr. SPEAKER

Sir Arthur Shirley Benn.

Sir A. SHIRLEY BENN

Is the right hon. Gentlemen aware if any American Governments have ever refused to carry out the requests of British Consuls to arrest and put on board sailors who are on the articles of ships and who have deserted?

Sir P. LLOYD-GREAME

I should like notice of that question.

Mr. SHINWELL

Can the right hon. Gentleman give the House any reason why the desertions are taking place?

Mr. SPEAKER

The hon. Member has given his own reason.