HC Deb 11 July 1923 vol 166 cc1359-63

Will the Prime Minister tell us what business he proposes to take on Friday?

The PRIME MINISTER (Mr. Baldwin)

In accordance with the agreement arrived at between all parties last night it is proposed to put down the Intoxicating Liquor (Sale to Persons under Eighteen) Bill as the first Order to be followed by the Rent and Mortgage Interest Restrictions Bill, on the definite understanding that if the first Order is not obtained by One o'clock, further discussion of that Measure should be adjourned, so as to allow of a full three hours' Debate on the Third Reading of the Rent Bill to be concluded by Four o'clock. I hope very much it will be possible to get the first-named Bill.


May I ask a question about the business for to-day. How far is it intended to go with the Agricultural Rates Bill; and will the right hon. Gentleman take into account the fact that the principal Act which dealt with a much smaller amount of money and did not apply to Scotland, took 15 Parliamentary days?


Before the right hon. Gentleman answers that question, may I ask him if he is prepared to give facilities on Friday so that the first Bill may, if necessary, be voted upon before One o'clock?


I do not quite understand the last question. If the hon. Member means do we propose to get the Bill through before we rise, the answer is "Yes." With regard to the question of the hon. Member for Derby (Mr. C. Roberts), we hope to get, as was announced. I think, last week, the Report stage and Third Reading of the Rates Bill.


Can we not have a longer time for this really important Measure? It only had four days' discussion in Standing Committee, where never more than 34 Members attended.


It is quite true there is no restriction of time in the Standing Committee, and that really shows that the Bill meets with an amount of general approval. It is very important that this Bill should be got before the House adjourns, and, as my hon. Friend knows, time is getting on now.


Having regard to the fact that the only opposition to the first Order on Friday is likely to come from his side of the House, will the right hon. Gentleman make an effort to persuade his own supporters not to block the Bill?

Viscountess ASTOR

Will the right hon. Gentleman press upon his supporters—or some of his supporters, because only a few of them take this view—that they are wasting Government time by blocking this Bill?

Viscount CURZON

Is it not the case that a certain number of us who served on the Committee are very anxious to give our views, even though we may eventually support the Bill?

Motion made, and Question put, That the Proceedings on the Agricultural Rates Bill and on the Expiring Laws Continuance Bill be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[The Prime Minister.]

The House divided: Ayes, 222; Noes, 144.

Division No. 284.] AYES. [3.47 p.m.
Agg-Gardner, Sir James Tynte Dixon, C. H. (Rutland) Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement
Ainsworth, Captain Charles Doyle, N. Grattan Lamb, J. Q.
Alexander, Col. M. (Southwark) Edmondson, Major A. J. Lambert, Rt. Hon. George
Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. Ednam, Viscount Lloyd, Cyril E. (Dudley)
Apsley, Lord Elliot, Capt. Walter E. (Lanark) Lloyd-Greame, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip
Archer-Shee, Lieut.-Col. Sir Martin England, Lieut.-Colonel A. Locker-Lampson, G. (Wood Green)
Astbury, Lieut.-Com. Frederick W. Erskine, James Malcolm Monteith Lorden, John William
Astor, Viscountess Erskine, Lord (Weston-super-Mare) Lorimer, H. D.
Baird, Rt. Hon. Sir John Lawrence Erskine-Bolst, Captain C. Lougher, L.
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Evans, Capt. H. Arthur (Leicester, E.) Lowe, Sir Francis William
Balfour, George (Hampstead) Eyres-Monsell, Com. Rt. Hon. Bolton M. Loyd, Arthur Thomas (Abingdon)
Banbury, Rt. Hon. Sir Frederick G. Falcon, Captain Michael McNeill, Ronald (Kent, Canterbury)
Barlow, Rt. Hon. Sir Montague Falle, Major Sir Bertram Godfrey Makins, Brigadier-General E.
Barnston, Major Harry Ford, Patrick Johnston Malone, Major P. B. (Tottenham, S.)
Bellairs, Commander Carlyon W. Foxcroft, Captain Charles Talbot Mason, Lieut.-Col. C. K.
Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) Fraser, Major Sir Keith Mitchell, W. F. (Saffron Walden)
Bennett, Sir T. J. (Sevenoaks) Frece, Sir Walter de Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham)
Bentinck, Lord Henry Cavendish- Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. Molloy, Major L. G. S.
Berry, Sir George Furness, G. J. Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C.
Betterton, Henry B. Gardiner, James Morrison, Hugh (Wilts, Salisbury)
Birchall, Major J. Dearman Gates, Percy Morrison-Bell, Major Sir A. C. (Honiton)
Bird, Sir R. B. (Wolverhampton, W.) Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John Murchison, C. K.
Blundell, F. N. Goff, Sir R. Park Nall, Major Joseph
Boyd-Carpenter, Major A. Greene, Lt.-Col. Sir W. (Hack'y, N.) Newman, Colonel J. R. P. (Finchley)
Brass, Captain W. Gretton, Colonel John Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter)
Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William Clive Guinness, Lieut.-Col. Hon. W. E. Nicholson, Brig.-Gen. J. (Westminster)
Brittain, Sir Harry Hacking, Captain Douglas H. Nicholson, William G. (Petersfield)
Brown, Major D. C. (Hexham) Hall, Rr-Adml Sir W. (Liv'p'l, W. D'by) Nield, Sir Herbert
Brown, Brig.-Gen. Clifton (Newbury) Halstead, Major D. Oman, Sir Charles William C.
Bruford, R. Hamilton, Sir George C. (Altrincham) Ormsby-Gore, Hon. William
Buckingham, Sir H. Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Paget, T. G.
Burn, Colonel Sir Charles Rosdew Harmsworth, Hon. E. C. (Kent) Pease, William Edwin
Burney, Com. (Middx., Uxbridge) Harrison, F. C. Pennefather, De Fonblanque
Butcher, Sir John George Harvey, Major S. E. Penny, Frederick George
Butler, H. M. (Leeds, North) Hay, Major T. W. (Norfolk, South) Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings)
Butt, Sir Alfred Henn, Sir Sydney H. Perkins, Colonel E. K.
Button, H. S. Hennessy, Major J. R. G. Peto, Basil E.
Cadogan, Major Edward Herbert, S. (Scarborough) Pielou, D. P.
Campion, Lieut.-Colonel W. R. Hilder, Lieut.-Colonel Frank Pownall, Lieut.-Colonel Assheton
Cautley, Henry Strother Hiley, Sir Ernest Privett, F. J.
Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord H. (Ox. Univ.) Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G. Raeburn, Sir William H.
Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord R. (Hitchin) Hohler, Gerald Fitzroy Raine, W.
Chadwick, Sir Robert Burton Holbrook, Sir Arthur Richard Rawlinson, Rt. Hon. John Fredk. Peel
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Ladywood) Hopkins John W. W. Rawson, Lieut.-Com. A. C.
Clayton, G. C. Hopkinson, A. (Lancaster, Mossley) Reid, Capt. A. S. C. (Warrington)
Cobb, Sir Cyril Howard, Capt. D. (Cumberland, N.) Remnant, Sir James
Cockerill, Brigadier-General G. K. Howard-Bury, Lieut.-Col. C. K. Rentoul, G. S.
Colfox, Major Wm. Phillips Hudson, Capt. A. Reynolds, W. G. W.
Colvin, Brig.-General Richard Beale Hume-Williams, Sir W. Ellis Rhodes, Lieut.-Col. J. P.
Conway, Sir W. Martin Hurd, Percy A. Richardson, Sir Alex, (Gravesend)
Cope, Major William Hurst, Gerald B. Richardson, Lt.-Col. Sir P. (Chertsey)
Craig, Captain C. C. (Antrim, South) Inskip, Sir Thomas Walker H. Roberts, Rt. Hon. G. H. (Norwich)
Craik, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry Jackson, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. F. S. Robertson-Despencer, Major (Isl'gt'n W.)
Crook, C. W. (East Ham, North) James, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert Rogerson, Capt. J. E.
Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) Jenkins, W. A. (Brecon and Radnor) Roundell, Colonel R. F.
Curzon, Captain Viscount Jephcott, A. R. Ruggles-Brise, Major E.
Davidson, J. C. C. (Hemel Hempstead) Jodrell, Sir Neville Paul Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth)
Davies, Alfred Thomas (Lincoln) Johnson, Sir L. (Walthamstow, E.) Russell, William (Bolton)
Davies, Thomas (Cirencester) Joynson-Hicks, Sir William Russell-Wells, Sir Sydney
Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) Kelley, Major Sir Frederick A. Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham)
Dawson, Sir Philip Kennedy, Captain M. S. Nigel Sanders, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert A.
Dixon, Capt. H. (Belfast, E.) King, Captain Henry Douglas Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D.
Sheffield, Sir Berkeley Sykes, Major-Gen. Sir Frederick H. Wheler, Col. Granville C. H.
Shepperson, E. W. Terrell, Captain R. (Oxford, Henley) White, Lt.-Col. G. D. (Southport)
Simpson-Hinchliffe, W. A. Thompson, Luke (Sunderland) Wilson, Col. M. J. (Richmond)
Singleton, J. E. Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South) Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Somerville, A. A. (Windsor) Titchfield, Marquess of Wise, Frederick
Somerville, Daniel (Barrow-in-Furness) Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement Wood, Rt. Hon. Edward F. L. (Ripon)
Spender-Clay, Lieut.-Colonel H. H. Tubbs, S. W. Wood, Sir H. K. (Woolwich, West)
Stanley, Lord Turton, Edmund Russborough Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L.
Stewart, Gershom (Wirral) Wallace, Captain E. Yate, Colonel Sir Charles Edward
Stockton, Sir Edwin Forsyth Ward, Col. L. (Kingston-upon-Hull) Yerburgh, R. D. T.
Stott, Lt.-Col. W. H. Waring, Major Walter
Stuart, Lord C. Crichton- Watts, Dr. T. (Man., Withington) TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Sugden, Sir Wilfrid H. Wells, S. R. Colonel Leslie Wilson and Colonel the Rt. Hon. G. A. Gibbs.
Acland, Rt. Hon. Francis Dyke Henderson, T. (Glasgow) Richards, R.
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Herriotts, J. Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring)
Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') Hinds, John Riley, Ben
Ammon, Charles George Hirst, G. H. Ritson, J.
Attlee, C. R. Hodge, Rt. Hon. John Roberts, C. H. (Derby)
Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) Hutchison, Sir R. (Kirkcaldy) Robinson, W. C. (York, Elland)
Barnes, A. Irving, Dan Rose, Frank H.
Batey, Joseph Johnston, Thomas (Stirling) Royce, William Stapleton
Benn, Captain Wedgwood (Leith) Johnstone, Harcourt (Willesden, East) Salter, Dr. A.
Berkeley, Captain Reginald Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) Scrymgeour, E.
Bonwick, A. Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) Sexton, James
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. Jones, R. T. (Carnarvon) Shaw, Hon. Alex. (Kilmarnock)
Briant, Frank Jowett, F. W. (Bradford, East) Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir John
Bromfield, William Kenworthy, Lieut.-Commander J. M. Simpson, J. Hope
Brotherton, J. Kenyon, Barnet Sinclair, Sir A.
Buckie, J. Lansbury, George Sitch, Charles H.
Burgess, S. Lawson, John James Smillie, Robert
Burnie, Major J. (Bootle) Leach, W. Smith, T. (Pontefract)
Buxton, Charles (Accrington) Lee, F. Snell, Harry
Buxton, Noel (Norfolk, North) Lees-Smith, H. B. (Keighley) Snowden, Philip
Charleton, H. C. Linfield, F. C. Spencer, George A. (Broxtowe)
Clarke, Sir E. C. Lowth, T. Stephenson, Lieut.-Colonel H. K.
Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. McCurdy, Rt. Hon. Charles A. Stewart, J. (St. Rollox)
Collison, Levi MacDonald, J. R. (Aberavon) Sutherland, Rt. Hon. Sir William
Cotts, Sir William Dingwall Mitchell M'Entee, V. L. Thomas, Rt. Hon. James H. (Derby)
Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities) Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J. Thomson, T. (Middlesbrough, West)
Davies, J. C. (Denbigh, Denbigh) Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I. Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton, E.)
Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) March, S. Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
Duffy, T. Gavan Marshall, Sir Arthur H. Tillett, Benjamin
Duncan, C. Martin, F. (Aberd'n & Kinc'd'ne, E.) Trevelyan, C. P.
Dunnico, H. Middleton, G. Warne, G. H.
Edmonds, G. Millar, J. D. Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline)
Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) Morel, E. D. Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda)
Emlyn-Jones, J. E. (Dorset, N.) Mosley, Oswald Wedgwood, Colonel Josiah C.
Falconer, J. Muir, John W. Weir, L. M.
Fisher, Rt. Hon. Herbert A. L. Murray, Hon. A. C. (Aberdeen) White, Charles F. (Derby, Western)
Foot, Isaac Murray, John (Leeds, West) White, H. G. (Birkenhead, E.)
George, Major G. L. (Pembroke) Murray, R. (Renfrew, Western) Whiteley, W.
Graham, W. (Edinburgh, Central) Newbold, J. T. W. Williams, David (Swansea, E.)
Gray, Frank (Oxford) O'Connor, Thomas P. Williams, Dr. J. H. (Llanelly)
Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Colne) O'Grady, Captain James Williams, T. (York, Don Valley)
Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) Oliver, George Harold Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe)
Grundy, T. W. Paling, W. Wood, Major M. M. (Aberdeen, C.)
Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) Pattinson, R. (Grantham) Wright, W.
Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland) Pattinson, S. (Horncastle) Young, Rt. Hon. E. H. (Norwich)
Hancock, John George Phillipps, Vivian Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton)
Hardie, George D. Ponsonby, Arthur
Hay, Captain J. P. (Cathcart) Potts, John S. TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Hayday, Arthur Pringle, W. M. R. Mr. Morgan Jones and Mr. Lunn.

Question put, and agreed to.