§ In lieu of the duties of Customs payable on cocoa imported into Great Britain or Ireland there shall, subject to the provisions of Section eight of the Finance Act, 1919, be charged, levied and paid as from the fifteenth day of May, nineteen hundred and twenty-two, the following reduced duties, that is to say:
| £ | s. | d. | |
| Cocoa, the cwt. | 1 | 8 | 0 |
| Cocoa (husks and shells), the cwt. | 0 | 4 | 0 |
| Cocoa-butter, the lb. | 0 | 0 | 3 |
§ Provided that in the application of this Section to any duty charged on manufactured or prepared goods under Section seven of the Finance Act, 1901, the first day of July, nineteen hundred and twenty-two, shall be substituted for the fifteenth day of May, nineteen hundred red and twenty-two.
Mr. T. THOMSONI beg to move to leave out "£1 8s. 0d.," and to insert instead thereof "£1 3s. 4d."
The intention was that this Amendment should be taken following a general discussion on a previous Amendment. I wish now merely to make a protest against the conspiracy of silence on the Treasury Bench. There have been 11 speeches from this side of the Committee since the learned Solicitor-General spoke, and I submit that arguments of some weight have been addressed to the Committee, and, although the Debate has gone on for 1½ hours, yet there
§ has not been any response whatever from the Government side. A matter of importance like this deserves more consideration, and even if speeches be made by back benchers they call for some reply.
§ Sir L. SCOTTThe last. thing I to do is to be guilty of any discourtesy to any section of Members.
Mr. THOMSONIt was not the right hon. Gentleman who was at fault, for he made his speech; but after he had gone the Committee was left for l hours without anyone else speaking.
§ Sir L. SCOTTI think the hon. Member will probably exonerate me for what happened when I was not here. I heard the last speech which preceded the Division just taken, and I felt that the only answer possible—probably an imperfect one—was substantially what. I had said on the first Amendment on the Tea Duty Clause. Feeling that I had attempted to cover the ground indicated in the last speech, I thought it would be discourteous for me to repeat what I had already said.
§ Question put., "That '£1 8s. 0d.' stand part of the Clause."
§ The Committee divided: Ayes, 171; Noes, 79.
925| Division No. 144.] | AYES. | [8.24 p.m. |
| Adkins, Sir William Ryland Dent | Barwick, Major G. O. | Cheyne, Sir William Watson |
| Aug-Gardner, Sir James Tynte | Boscawen, Rt. Hon. Sir A. Griffith- | Churchman, Sir Arthur |
| Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. | Bowyer, Captain G. W. E. | Clay, Lieut.-Colonel H. H. Spender |
| Astbury, Lieut.-Com. Frederick W. | Boyd-Carpenter, Major A. | Clough, Sir Robert |
| Atkey, A. R. | Breese, Major Charles E. | Cobb, Sir Cyril |
| Baird, Sir John Lawrence | Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William Clive | Cohen, Major J. Brunel |
| Balfour, George (Hampstead) | Briggs, Harold | Colvin, Brig.-General Richard Beale |
| Banner, Sir John S. Harmood | Broad, Thomas Tucker | Davies, Sir William H. (Bristol, S.) |
| Barnett, Major Richard W. | Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C. (Newbury) | Dewhurst, Lieut.-Commander Harry |
| Barrand, A. R. | Buckley, Lieut.-Colonel A. | Doyle, N. Grattan |
| Bartley-Denniss, Sir Edmund Robert | Campion, Lieut.-Colonel W. R. | Du Pre, Colonel William Baring |
| Bell, Lieut.-Col. W. C. H. (Devizes) | Carr, W. Theodore | Edgar, Clifford B. |
| Bellairs, Commander Canyon W. | Carter, R. A. D. (Man., Withington) | Edge, Captain Sir William |
| Bird, Sir R. B. (Wolverhampton, W) | Casey, T. W. | Edwards, Major J. (Aberavon) |
| Bird, Sir William R. M. (Chichester) | Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. J. A. (Birm.,W.) | Elliott, Lt.-Col. Sir G. (Islington,w.) |
| Blair, Sir Reginald | Chamberlain, N. (Birm., Ladywood) | Evans, Ernest |
| Eyres-Monsell, Com. Bolton M. | Kellaway, Rt. Hon. Fredk. George | Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel |
| Fell, Sir Arthur | Kelley, Major Fred (Rotherham) | Richardson, Sir Alex. (Gravesend) |
| Flannery, Sir James Fortescue | Kidd, James | Richardson, Lt.-Col. Sir P. (Chertsey) |
| Foreman, Sir Henry | Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement | Roberts, Rt. Hon. G. H. (Norwich) |
| Forestier-Walker, L. | Law, Alfred J. (Rochdale) | Robinson, Sir T. (Lancs., Stretford) |
| Forrest, Walter | Lloyd, George Butler | Rodger, A. K. |
| Fraser, Major Sir Keith | Lorden, John William | Rutherford, Sir W. W. (Edge Hill) |
| Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. | M'Curdy, Rt. Hon. Charles A. | Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) |
| Ganzoni, Sir John | M'Donald, Dr. Bouverie F. P. | Samuel, Samuel (W'dsworth, Putney) |
| Gardner, Ernest | Mackinder, Sir H. J. (Camlachle) | Sanders, Colonel Sir Robert Arthur |
| Gee, Captain Robert | McLaren, Robert (Lanark, Northern) | Scott, A. M. (Glasgow, Bridgeton) |
| Gilmour, Lieut.-Colonel Sir John | Macleod, J. Mackintosh | Scott, Sir Leslie (Liverp'l, Exchange) |
| Goff, Sir R. Park | McNeill, Ronald (Kent, Canterbury) | Shaw, Hon. Alex. (Kilmarnock) |
| Green, Joseph F. (Leicester, W.) | Magnus, Sir Philip | Shaw, William T. (Forfar) |
| Gregory, Holman | Malone, Major P. B. (Tottenham, S.) | Simm, M. T. |
| Craig, Colonel Sir James William | Manville, Edward | Smith, Sir Allan M. (Croydon, South) |
| Gritten, W. G. Howard | Middlebrook, Sir William | Stanley, Major Hon. G. (Preston) |
| Hacking, Captain Douglas H. | Mitchell, Sir William Lane | Steel, Major S. Strang |
| Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) | M arcing, Captain Algernon H. | Stephenson, Lieut.-Colonel H. K. |
| Hamilton, Major Sir C. G. C. | Murchison, C. K. | Sturrock, J. Leng |
| Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry | Murray, C. D. (Edinburgh) | Sugden, W. H. |
| Haslam, Lewis | Murray, John (Leeds, West) | Surtees, Brigadier-General H. C. |
| Henderson, Major V. L. (Tradeston) | Neal, Arthur | Sutherland, Sir William |
| Hennessy, Major.J. R. G. | Newson, Sir Percy Wilson | Sykes, Sir Charles (Huddersfield) |
| Herbert, Dennis (Hertford, Watford) | Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) | Taylor, J. |
| Hilder, Lieut.-Colonel Frank | Nield, Sir Herbert | Thornton, F. C. (Aberdeen, South) |
| Hills, Major John Waller | Norris, Colonel Sir Henry G. | Thomson, Sir W. Mitchell- (Maryhill) |
| Hinds, John | Norton-Griffiths, Lieut.-Col. Sir John | Tryon, Major George Clement |
| Hood, Sir Joseph | Pain, Brig.-Gen. Sir W. Hacket | Turton, Edmund Russborough |
| Hope, Sir H. (Stirling & Cl'ckm'nn, W.) | Parker, James | Wallace, J. |
| Hope, Lt.-Col. Sir J. A. (Midlothian) | Parry, Lieut.-Colonel Thomas Henry | Warren, Sir Alfred H. |
| Hopkins, John W. W. | Pearce, Sir William | Williams, C. (Tavistock) |
| Hopkinson, A. (Lancaster, Moseley) | Pease, Rt. Hon. Herbert Pike | Wilson, Rt. Hon. Col. L. O. (R'ding) |
| Horne, Edgar (Surrey, Guildford) | Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) | Winfrey, Sir Richard |
| Horne, Sir R. S. (Glasgow, Hillhead) | Perring, William George | Wise, Frederick |
| Hunter.-Weston, Lt.-Gen. Sir Aylmer | Pinkham, Lieut.-Colonel Charles | Wolmer, Viscount |
| Hurst, Lieut.-Colonel Gerald B. | Pollock, Rt. Hon. Sir Ernest Murray | Wood, Hon. Edward F. L. (Ripon) |
| Inskip, Thomas Walker H. | Pownall, Lieut.-Colonel Assheton | Wood. Sir J. (Stalybridge and Hyde) |
| Jephcott, A. R. | Pratt, John William | Worsfold, T. Cato |
| Jodrell, Neville Paul | Preston, Sir W. R. | |
| Johnson, Sir Stanley | Prescott, Major Sir W. H. | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) | Rae, Sir Henry N. | Mr. Dudley Ward and Colonel Gibbs. |
| NOES. | ||
| Adamson, Rt. Hon. William | Grundy, T. W. | Rose, Frank H. |
| Ammon, Charles George | Guest, J. (York, W.R., Hemsworth) | Royce, William Stapleton |
| Banton, George | Hall, F. (York, W.R., Normanton) | Sexton, James |
| Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) | Harmsworth, Hon. E. C. (Kent) | Shaw, Thomas (Preston) |
| Barnes, Major H. (Newcastle, E.) | Hayday, Arthur | Sitch, Charles H. |
| Barton, Sir William (Oldham) | Hayward, Evan | Smith, W. R. (Wellingborough) |
| Bell, James (Lancaster, Ormskirk) | Henderson, Rt. Hon. A. (Widnes) | Spencer, George A. |
| Bramsdon, Sir Thomas | Hirst, G. H. | Spoor, B. G. |
| Briant, Frank | Hodge, Rt. Hon. John | Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser |
| Bromfield, William | Hogge, James Myles | Sutton, John Edward |
| Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) | Holmes, J. Stanley | Swan, J. E. |
| Cairns, John | John, William (Rhondda, West) | Thomas, Rt. Hon. James H. (Derby) |
| Cape, Thomas | Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) | Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton, E.) |
| Carter, W. (Nottingham, Mansfield) | Kenworthy, Lieut.-Commander J. M. | Tillett, Benjamin |
| Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord R. (Hitchin) | Lawson. John James | Walsh, Stephen (Lancaster, Ince) |
| Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. | Lunn, William | Waterson, A. E. |
| Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities) | Lyle-Samuel, Alexander | Watts-Morgan, Lieut.-Col, D. |
| Davies, A. (Lancaster, Clitheroe) | Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan) | Wedgwood, Colonel Josiah C. |
| Davies, Alfred Thomas (Lincoln) | Maclean, Rt. Hn. Sir D. (Midlothian) | White, Charles F. (Derby, Western) |
| Davison, J. E. (Smethwick) | Mills, John Edmund | Wignall, James |
| Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) | Murray, Dr. D. (Inverness & Ross) | Williams, Col. P. (Middlesbrough, E.) |
| Entwistle, Major C. F. | Newbould, Alfred Ernest | Wilson, James (Dudley) |
| Erskine, James Malcolm Monteith | Poison, Sir Thomas A. | Wintringham, Margaret |
| Galbraith, Samuel | Raffan, Peter Wilson | Wood, Major M. M. (Aberdeen, C.) |
| Gillis, William | Richardson. R. (Houghton-le-Spring) | Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton) |
| Graham, W. (Edinburgh, Central) | Roberts, Frederick O. (W. Bromwich) | |
| Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) | Robertson, John | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| Mr. T. Thomson and Mr. Foot. |
§ Motion made, and Question proposed, ''That the Clause stand part of the Bill."
Mr. MACLEANI oppose this on-the same lines as those on which I opposed Clause 1. The arguments that-were pertinent to the rejection of that 926 Clause are equally pertinent in the present case. The main ground on which I move the rejection of the Clause—
§ The CHAIRMANThe question is that the Clause as a whole stand part, and the hon. Member can vote against that.
Mr. MACLEANI should have said that I am speaking against the acceptance of the Clause as a whole by the Committee. I merely remind the Committee of the objections which I brought forward in the case of Clause 1. They apply equally to this Clause. We want a free breakfast table, and I hope Mem-
§ bers of the Government will join with Members of the Opposition in giving the people a free breakfast table.
§ Question put, "That the Clause stand part of the Bill."
§ The Committee divided: Ayes, 180: Noes, 71.
929| Division No. 145.] | AYES. | [8.30 p.m. |
| Agg-Gardner, Sir James Tynte | Gibbs, Colonel George Abraham | Pearce, Sir William |
| Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. | Gilmour, Lieut.-Colonel Sir John | Pease, Rt. Hon. Herbert Pike |
| Armitage, Robert | Golf, Sir R. Park | Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) |
| Astbury, Lieut.-Com. Frederick W. | Green, Joseph F. (Leicester, W.) | Perring, William George |
| Atkey, A. R. | Gregory, Holman | Pinkham, Lieut.-Colonel Charles |
| Baird, Sir John Lawrence | Greig, Colonel Sir James William | Pollock, Rt. Hon. Sir Ernest Murray |
| Balfour, George (Hampstead) | Gritten, W. G. Howard | Poison, Sir Thomas A. |
| Banner, Sir John S. Harmood- | Hacking, Captain Douglas H. | Pownall, Lieut.-Colonel Assheton |
| Barnett, Major Richard W. | Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) | Pratt, John William |
| Barrand, A. R. | Hamilton, Major Sir C. G. C. | Preston, Sir W. R. |
| Bartley-Denniss, Sir Edmund Robert | Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry | Prescott, Major Sir W. H. |
| Bell, Lieut.-Col. W. C. H. (Devizes) | Harmsworth, Hon. E. C. (Kent) | Rae, Sir Henry N. |
| Bellairs, Commander Carlyon W. | Haslam, Lewis | Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel |
| Bird, Sir R. B. (Wolverhampton, W.) | Henderson, Major V. L. (Tradeston) | Remer, J. R. |
| Bird, Sir William B. M. (Chichester) | Hennessy, Major J. R. G. | Richardson, Sir Alex. (Gravesend) |
| Blair, Sir Reginald | Herbert, Dennis (Hertford. Watford) | Richardson, Lt.-Col. Sir P. (Chertsey) |
| Blake, Sir Francis Douglas | Hilder, Lieut.-Colonel Frank | Roberts, Rt. Hon. G. H. (Norwich) |
| Barwick, Major G. O. | Hills, Major John Waller | Robinson, Sir T. (Lancs., Stretford) |
| Boscawen, Rt. Hon. Sir A. Griffith- | Hinds, John | Rodger, A. K. |
| Bowyer, Captain G. W. E. | Hood, Sir Joseph | Roundell, Colonel R. F. |
| Breese, Major Charles E. | Hope, Sir H.(Stirling & C'ckm'nn,W.) | Rutherford, Sir W. W. (Edge Hill) |
| Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William Clive | Hope, Lt.-Col. Sir J. A. (Midlothian) | Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) |
| Briggs, Harold | Hopkins, John W. W. | Samuel, Samuel (W'dsworth, Putney) |
| Broad, Thomas Tucker | Hopkinson, A. (Lancaster. Mossley) | Sanders, Colonel Sir Robert Arthur |
| Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C. (Newbury) | Horne, Edgar (Surrey, Guildford) | Scott, A. M. (Glasgow, Bridgeton) |
| Buckley, Lieut.-Colonel A. | Horne, Sir R. S. (Glasgow, Hillhead) | Scott. Sir Leslie (Liverp'l, Exchange) |
| Campion, Lieut.-Colonel W. R. | Hunter-Weston, Lt.-Gen. Sir Aylmer | Seddon, J. A. |
| Carr, W. Theodore | Hurst, Lieut.-Colonel Gerald B. | Shaw, Hon. Alex. (Kilmarnock) |
| Carter, R. A. D. (Man., Withington) | Inskip, Thomas Walker H. | Shaw, William T. (Forfar) |
| Casey, T. W. | Jephcott, A. R. | Simm, M. T. |
| Chamberlain, Rt. H n. J. A. (Birm. W.) | Jodrell, Neville Paul | Smith, Sir Allan M. (Croydon, South) |
| Chamberlain, N. (Birm., Ladywood) | Johnson, Sir Stanley | Smith, Sir Harold (Warrington) |
| Cheyne, Sir William Watson | Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) | Stanley, Major Hon. G. (Preston) |
| Churchman, Sir Arthur | Kellaway, Rt. Hon. Fredk. George | Steel, Major S. Strang |
| Clay, Lieut.-Colonel H. H. Spender | Kelley, Major Fred (Rotherham) | Stephenson, Lieut.-Colonel H. K. |
| Clough, Sir Robert | Kidd, James | Sturrock, J. Leng |
| Cobb, Sir Cyril | King, Captain Henry Douglas | Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser |
| Cohen, Major J. Brunel | Law, Alfred J. (Rochdale) | Sugden, W. H. |
| Colvin, Brig.-General Richard Beale | Lloyd, George Butler | Surtees, Brigadier-General H. C. |
| Davies, Sir William H. (Bristol, S.) | Lorden, John William | Sutherland, Sir William |
| Dewhurst, Lieut.-Commander Harry | M'Donald, Dr. Bouverie F. P. | Sykes, Sir Charles (Huddesfield) |
| Doyle, N. Grattan | McLaren, Robert (Lanark, Northern) | Taylor, J. |
| Du Pre, Colonel William Baring | Magnus, Sir Philip | Terrell. George (Wilts, Chippenham) |
| Edgar, Clifford B. | Mallalieu, Frederick William | Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South) |
| Edge, Captain Sir William | Malone, Major P. B. (Tottenham, S.) | Thomson, Sir W. Mitchell- (Maryhill) |
| Edwards, Major J. (Aberavon) | Manville, Edward | Tryon, Major George Clement |
| Elliott, Lt.-Col. Sir G. (Islington, W.) | Middlebrook, Sir William | Turton, Edmund Russborough |
| Erskine, James Malcolm Monteith | Mitchell, Sir William Lane | Wallace, J. |
| Evans, Ernest | Moreing, Captain Algernon H. | Walters, Fit. Hon. Sir John Tudor |
| Eyres-Monsell, Corn. Bolton M. | Murchison, C. K. | Ward, William Dudley (Southampton) |
| Fell, Sir Arthur | Murray, C. D. (Edinburgh) | Warren, Sir Alfred H. |
| Flannery, Sir James Fortescue | Murray, John (Leeds, West) | Williams, C. (Tavistock) |
| Foreman, Sir Henry | Neal, Arthur | Willoughby, Lieut.-Col. Hon. Claud |
| Forestier-Walker, L. | Newson, Sir Percy Wilson | Wise, Frederick |
| Forrest, Walter | Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) | Wolmer, Viscount |
| France, Gerald Ashburner | Nield, Sir Herbert | Wood, Hon. Edward F. L. (Ripon) |
| Fraser, Major Sir Keith | Norris, Colonel Sir Henry G. | Wood, Sir J. (Stalybridge & Hyde) |
| Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. | Norton.-Griffiths, Lieut.-Col. Sir John | Worsfold, T. Cato |
| Ganzoni, Sir John | Pain, Brig.-Gen. Sir W. Hacket | |
| Gardner, Ernest | Parker, James | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Gee, Captain Robert | Parry, Lieut.-Colonel Thomas Henry | Colonel Leslie Wilson and Mr. McCurdy. |
| NOES. | ||
| Adamson, Rt. Hon. William | Bell, James (Lancaster, Ormskirk) | Cairns, John |
| Banton, George | Bramsdon, Sir Thomas | Cape, Thomas |
| Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) | Briant, Frank | Carter, W. (Nottingham, Mansfield) |
| Barnes. Major H. (Newcastle, E.) | Bromfield, William. | Davies, A. (Lancaster, Clitheroe) |
| Barton, Sir William (Oldham) | Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) | Davison, J. E. (Smethwick) |
| Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) | Lawson, John James | Swan, J. E. |
| Entwistle, Major C. F. | Lunn, William | Thomas, Rt. Hon. lames H. (Derby) |
| Foot, Isaac | Lyle-Samuel, Alexander | Thomson, T. (Middlesbrough, West) |
| Galbraith, Samuel | Maclean, Rt. Hn. Sir D. (Midlothian) | Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton, E.) |
| Gillis, William | Mills, John Edmund | Tillett, Benjamin |
| Graham, W. (Edinburgh, Central) | Murray, Dr. D. (Inverness & Ross) | Walsh, Stephen (Lancaster, Ince) |
| Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) | Newbould, Alfred Ernest | Waterson, A. E. |
| Grundy, T. W. | Raffan, Peter Wilson | Watts-Morgan, Lieut.-Col. D. |
| Guest, J. (York, W.R., Hemsworth) | Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) | Wedgwood, Colonel Josiah C. |
| Hall, F. (York, W.A., Normanton) | Roberts, Frederick O. (W. Bromwich) | White, Charles F. (Derby, Western) |
| Heyday, Arthur | Robertson, John | Wignall, James |
| Hayward, Evan | Rose, Frank H. | Williams, Col. P. (Middlesbrough, E.) |
| Henderson, Rt. Hon. A. (Widnes) | Royce, William Stapleton | Wilson, James (Dudley) |
| Hirst, G. H. | Sexton, James | Wintringham, Margaret |
| Hodge, Rt. Hon. John | Shaw, Thomas (Preston) | Wood, Major M. M. (Aberdeen, C.) |
| Hogge, James Myles | Sitch, Charles H. | Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton) |
| Holmes,.J. Stanley | Smith, W. R. (Wellingborough) | |
| John, William (Rhondda, West) | Spencer, George A. | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) | Spoor, B. G. | Mr. Ammon and Mr. Neil Maclean. |
| Kenworthy, Lieut.-Commander J. M. | Sutton, John Edward |