HC Deb 26 July 1922 vol 157 cc629-33

"That a sum, not exceeding £19,102,200, be granted to His Majesty, to defray the Charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1923, for Expenditure in respect of the Navy Services, namely:—

£
3. Medical Establishments and Services 427,000
4. Civilians employed Fleet Services 238,100
5. Educational Services 335,000
6. Scientific Services 363,500
7. Royal Naval Reserves 443,300
8. Section 1. Shipbuilding, Repairs, Maintenance, etc., Personnel 6,258,100

£
8. Section 2. Shipbuilding, Repairs, Maintenance, etc., Matériel 5,918,700
8. Section 3. Shipbuilding, Repairs, Maintenance, etc. Contract Work 2,717,500
11. Miscellaneous Effective Services 1,557,900
15. Civil Superannuation, Compensation Allowances, and Gratuities 843,100
£19,102,200"

Question put.

The Committee divided: Ayes, 229; Noes, 62.

Division No. 251] AYES. [11.51 p.m.
Adkins, Sir William Ryland Dent Courthope, Lieut.-Col. George L. Herbert, Col. Hon. A. (Yeovil)
Agg-Gardner, Sir James Tynte Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities) Hinds, John
Ainsworth, Captain Charles Cowan, Sir H. (Aberdeen and Kinc.) Hoare, Lieut.-Colonel Sir S. J. G.
Amery, Bt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. Curzon, Captain Viscount Hood, sir Joseph
Archer-Shee, Lieut.-Colonel Martin Dalziel, Sir D. (Lambeth, Brixton) Hope, J. D. (Berwick & Haddington)
Armitage, Robert Davidson, Major-General Sir J. H. Hopkins, John W. W.
Armstrong, Henry Bruce Davies, Alfred Thomas (Lincoln) Horne, Edgar (Surrey, Guildford)
Atkey, A. R. Davies, Thomas (Cirencester) Horne, Sir R. S. (Glasgow, Hillhead)
Baird, Sir John Lawrence Dawson, Sir Philip Howard, Major S. G.
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Dewhurst, Lieut.-Commander Harry Hunter-Weston, Lt.-Gen. Sir Aylmer
Balfour, George (Hampstead) Doyle, N. Grattan Inskip, Thomas Walker H.
Banbury, Rt. Hon. Sir Frederick G. Du Pre, Colonel William Baring Jameson, John Gordon
Barnett, Major Richard W. Edgar, Clifford B. Jephcott, A. R.
Barnston, Major Harry Edge, Captain Sir William Johnstone, Joseph
Barrie, Sir Charles Coupar (Banff) Ednam, Viscount Jones, Sir Edgar R. (Merthyr Tydvil)
Bell, Lieut.-Col. W. C. H. (Devizes) Edwards, Hugh (Glam., Neath) Kelley, Major Fred (Rotherham)
Bellairs, Commander Carlyon W. Elveden, Viscount King, Captain Henry Douglas
Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) Erskine, James Malcolm Monteith Larmor, Sir Joseph
Bonn, Capt. Sir I. H., Bart. (Gr'nw'h) Evans, Ernest Law, Alfred J. (Rochdale)
Betterton, Henry B. Eyres-Monsell, Com. Bolton M. Leigh, Sir John (Clapham)
Bigland, Alfred Falcon, Captain Michael Lewis, Rt. Hon. J. H.(Univ., Wales)
Birchall, J. Dearman Falle, Major Sir Bertram Godfray Lindsay, William Arthur
Boscawen, Rt. Hon. Sir A. Griffith- Fisher, Rt. Hon. Herbert A. L. Lister, Sir R. Ashton
Bowyer, Captain G. W. E. Ford, Patrick Johnston Lloyd, George Butler
Breese, Major Charles E. Forestier-Walker, L. Lloyd-Greame, Sir P.
Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William Clive Forrest, Walter Locker-Lampson, Com. O. (H'tingd'n)
Briggs, Harold Foxcroft, Captain Charles Talbot Lorden, John William
Brittain, Sir Harry Fraser, Major Sir Keith Lort-Williams, J.
Broad, Thomas Tucker Ganzoni, Sir John Lowe, Sir Francis William
Brown, Major D. C. Gilbert, James Daniel Lowther, Major C. (Cumberland, N.)
Brown, Brig.-Gen. Clifton (Newbury) Gilmour, Lieut.-Colonel Sir John Lowther, Maj.-Gen. Sir C. (Penrith)
Bruton, Sir James Glyn, Major Ralph Loyd, Arthur Thomas (Abingdon)
Buckley, Lieut.-Colonel A. Gould, James C. Macdonald, Sir Murdoch (Inverness)
Bull, Rt. Hon. Sir William James Grant, James Augustus McLaren, Hon. H. D. (Leicester)
Burn, Col. C. R. (Devon, Torquay) Greene, Lt.-Col. Sir W. (Hack'y, N.) McLaren, Robert (Lanark, Northern)
Campion, Lieut.-Colonel W. R. Greenwood, Rt. Hon. Sir Hamar M'Lean, Lieut.-Col. Charles W. W.
Carr, W. Theodore Greig, Colonel Sir James William McMicking, Major Gilbert
Casey, T. W. Gritten, W. G. Howard Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J.
Cautley, Henry Strother Guest, Capt. Rt. Hon. Frederick E. Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I.
Cecil, Rt. Hon. Sir Evelyn (Aston) Guinness, Lieut.-Col. Hon. W. E. Maitland, Sir Arthur D. Steel-
Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord H. (Ox. Univ.) Guthrie, Thomas Maule Malone, Major P. B. (Tottenham, S.)
Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. J. A. (Birm. W) Hacking, Captain Douglas H. Manville, Edward
Clay, Lieut.-Colonel H. H. Spender Hallwood, Augustine Marks, Sir George Croydon
Clough, Sir Robert Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) Marriott, John Arthur Ransome
Coats, Sir Stuart Hamilton, Sir George C. Mason, Robert
Cockerill, Brigadier-General G. K. Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Matthews, David
Colfox, Major Wm. Phillips Harmsworth, C. B. (Bedford, Luton) Meysey-Thompson, Lieut.-Col. E. C.
Colvin, Brig.-General Richard Beale Harmsworth, Hon. E. C. (Kent) Mitchell, Sir William Lane
Conway, Sir W. Martin Hennessy, Major J. R. G. Mond, Rt. Hon. Sir Alfred Moritz
Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C. Randles, Sir John Scurrah Terrell, George (Wilts, Chippenham)
Morden, Col. W. Grant Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel Terrell, Captain R. (Oxford, Henley)
Moreing, Captain Algernce H Roes, Capt. J. Tudor- (Barnstaple) Thomas, Sir Robert J. (Wrexham)
Morrison-Bell, Major A. C. Remer, J. R. Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South)
Munro, Rt. Hon. Robert Remnant, Sir James Thomson, Sir W. Mitchell- (Maryhill)
Murchison, C. K. Renwick, Sir George Thorpe, Captain John Henry
Murray, Rt. Hon. C D. (Edinburgh) Richardson, Sir Alex, (Gravesend) Townley, Maximilian G.
Murray, John (Leeds, West) Richardson, Lt.-Col. Sir P. (Chertsey) Tryon, Major George Clement
Nall, Major Joseph Roberts, Samuel (Hereford, Hereford) Vickers, Douglas
Neal, Arthur Roberts, Sir S. (Sheffield, Ecclesall) Wallace, J.
Newman, Colonel J. R. P. (Finchley) Robinson, S. (Brecon and Radnor) Walters, Rt. Hon. Sir John Tudor
Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) Robinson, Sir T. (Lanes, Stretford) Walton, J. (York, W. R., Don Valley)
Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) Rodger, A. K. Ward, Col. L. (Kingston-upon-Hull)
Nicholson, Brig.-Gen. J (Westminster) Roundell, Colonel H. F. Waring, Major Walter
Nicholson, Reginald (Doncaster) Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) Watson, Captain John Bertrand
Norman, Major Rt. Hon. Sir Henry Sanders, Colonel Sir Robert Arthur Wheler, Col. Granville C. H.
Norris, Colonel Sir Henry G. Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D. White, Col. G. n. (Southport)
O'Neill, Rt. Hon. Hugh Scott, A. M. (Glasgow, Bridgeton) Whitla, Sir William
Pain, Brig.-Gen. Sir W. Hacket Scott, Sir Leslie (Liverp'l, Exchange) Williams, C. (Tavistock)
Palmer, Brigadier-General G. L. Seely, Major-General Rt. Hon. John Williams, Lt.-Col. Sir R. (Banbury)
Parker, James Shaw, Hon. Alex. (Kilmarnock) Wills, Lt.-Col. Sir Gilbert Alan H.
Parry, Lieut.-Colonel Thomas Henry Shaw, William T. (Forfar) Wilson, Rt. Hon. Col. L. O. (R'ding)
Pearce, Sir William Shortt, Rt. Hon. E. (N'castle-on-T.) Windsor, Viscount
Pease, Rt. Hon. Herbert Pike Simms, Dr. John M. (North Down) Winfrey, Sir Richard
Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) Sprot, Colonel Sir Alexander Winterton, Earl
Perring, William George Stanley, Major Hon. G. (Preston) Wise, Frederick
Pilditch, Sir Philip Starkey, Captain John Ralph Wood, Hon. Edward F. L. (Ripon)
Pollock, Rt. Hon. Sir Ernest Murray Steel, Major S. Strang Wood, Sir J. (Stalybridge & Hyde)
Pownall, Lieut.-Colonel Assheton Stephenson, Lieut.-Colonel H. K. Wood, Major Sir S. Hill- (High Peak)
Pratt, John William Stevens, Marshall Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L.
Prescott, Major Sir W. H. Stewart, Gershom Yeo, Sir Alfred William
Pretyman, Rt. Hon. Ernest G. Sturrock, J. Long Young, E. H. (Norwich)
Purchase, H. G. Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser Younger, Sir George
Rae, Sir Henry N. Surtees, Brigadier-General H. C.
Raeburn, Sir William H. Sutherland, Sir William TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Ramsden, G. T. Taylor, J. Mr. McCurdy and Colonel Gibbs.
NOES.
Adamson, Rt. Hon. William Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) Raffan, Peter Wilson
Ammon, Charles George Grundy, T. W. Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring)
Banton, George Guest, Capt. Rt. Hon. Frederick E. Rose, Frank H.
Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) Hartshorn, Vernon Shaw, Thomas (Preston)
Barnes, Major H. (Newcastle, E) Hayday, Arthur Short, Alfred (Wednesbury)
Barton, Sir William (Oldham) Hayward, Evan Sitch, Charles H.
Bell, James (Lancaster, Ormskirk) Henderson, Rt. Hon. A. (Widnes) Spencer, George A.
Benn, Captain Wedgwood (Leith) Herbert, Col. Hon. A. (Yeovil) Sutton, John Edward
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Chariot W. Hirst, G. H. Swan, J. E.
Bramsdon, Sir Thomas Hogge, James Myles Thomas, Brig.-Gen. Sir O. (Anglesey)
Briant, Frank Holmes, J. Stanley Thomson, T. (Middlesbrough, West)
Bromfield, William Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
Cairns, John Kiley, James Daniel Tillett, Benjamin
Cape, Thomas Lambert, Rt. Hon. George Walsh, Stephen (Lancaster, Ince)
Collins, Sir Godfrey (Greenock) Lawson, John James Waterson, A. E.
Davies, A (Lancaster, Clitheroe) Lunn, William Wedgwood, Colonel Josiah C.
Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) Maclean, Neil (Glasgow, Govan) Wilson, James (Dudley)
Davison, J. E. (Smethwick) Maclean, Rt. Hn. Sir D. (Midlothian) Wilson, Rt. Hon, J. W. (Stourbridge)
Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) MacVeagh, Jeremiah Wintringham, Margaret
Edwards, G. (Norfolk, South) Malone, C. L. (Leyton, E.) Wood, Major M. M. (Aberdeen, C.)
Entwistle, Major C. F. Mosley, Oswald Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton)
Finney, Samuel Myers, Thomas
Foot, Isaac Naylor, Thomas Ellis TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Gillis, William Newbould, Alfred Ernest Mr. Walter Smith and Mr. Charles
Graham, D. M. {Lanark, Hamilton) Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan) White.

Question put, and agreed to.

Division No. 252.] AYES. [12 m.
Adkins, Sir William Ryland Dent Gould, James C. Pain, Brig.-Gen. sir W. Hacket
Agg-Gardner, Sir James Tynte Grant, James Augustus Palmer, Brigadier-General G. L.
Ainsworth, Captain Charles Green, Joseph F. (Leicester, w.) Pease, Rt. Hon. Herbert Pike
Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. Greene, Lt.-Col. Sir w. (Hack'y, N.) Perring, William George
Archer-Shee, Lieut.-Colonel Martin Gritten, W. G. Howard Pilditch, Sir Philip
Armstrong, Henry Bruce Guest, Capt. Rt. Hon. Frederick E. Pollock, Rt. Hon. Sir Ernest Murray
Atkey, A. R. Guinness, Lieut.-Col. Hon. W. E. Pownall, Lieut.-Colonel Assheton
Baird, sir John Lawrence Guthrie, Thomas Maule Pratt, John William
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Hacking, Captain Douglas H. Prescott, Major Sir W. H.
Balfour, George (Hampstead) Hallwood, Augustine Pretyman, Rt. Hon. Ernest G.
Banbury, Rt. Hon. Sir Frederick G. Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) Purchase, H. G.
Barnett, Major Richard W. Hamilton, Sir George C. Rae, Sir Henry N.
Barnston, Major Harry Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Raeburn, Sir William H.
Barrie, Sir Charles Coupar (Banff) Harmsworth, C. B. (Bedford, Luton) Ramsden, G. T.
Bell, Lieut.-Col. W. C. H. (Devizes) Harmsworth, Hon. E. C. (Kent) Randies, Sir John Scurrah
Bellairs, Commander Carlyon W. Hennessy, Major J. R. G. Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel
Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) Herbert, Col. Hon. A. (Yeovil) Rees, Capt. J. Tudor- (Barnstaple)
Benn, Capt. Sir I. H., Bart.(Gr'nw'h) Herbert, Dennis (Hertford, Watford) Remer, J. R.
Betterton, Henry B. Hoare, Lieut.-Colonel Sir S. J. G. Remnant, Sir James
Bigland, Alfred Hood, Sir Joseph Renwick, Sir George
Birchall, J. Dearman Hopkins, John W. W. Richardson, Lt.-Col. Sir P. (Chertsey)
Boscawen, Rt. Hon. Sir A. Griffith Horne, Edgar (Surrey, Guildford) Roberts, Sir S. (Sheffield, Ecclesall)
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. Horne, Sir R. S. (Glasgow, Hillhead) Robinson, S. (Brecon and Radnor)
Bowyer, Captain G. W. E. Howard, Major s. G. Robinson, Sir T (Lanes., Stretford)
Bramsdon, sir Thomas Hunter, General Sir A. (Lancaster) Rodger, A. K.
Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William Clive Hunter-Weston, Lt.-Gen. sir Aylmer Roundell, Colonel R. F.
Briggs, Harold Inskip, Thomas Walker H. Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham)
Brittain, Sir Harry Jameson, John Gordon Sanders, Colonel Sir Robert Arthur
Broad, Thomas Tucker Johnstone, Joseph Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D.
Brown, Major D. C. Jones, Sir Edgar R. (Merthyr Tydvll) Scott, A. M. (Glasgow, Bridgeton)
Bruton, Sir James Kelley, Major Fred (Rotherham) Scott, Sir Leslie (Liverp'l, Exchange)
Buckley, Lieut.-Colonel A. King, Captain Henry Douglas Seely, Major-General Rt. Hon. John
Burn, Col. C. R. (Devon, Torquay) Larmor, Sir Joseph Shaw, Hon. Alex (Kilmarnock)
Campion, Lieut.-Colonel W. R. Law, Alfred J. (Rochdale) Shaw, William T. (Forfar)
Carr, W. Theodore Leigh, Sir John (Clapham) Shortt, Rt. Hon. E. (N'castle-on-T.)
Casey, T. W. Lewis, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Univ., Wales) Sprot, Colonel Sir Alexander
Cautley, Henry Strother Lindsay, William Arthur Stanley, Major Hon. G. (Preston)
Cecil, Rt. Hon. Sir Evelyn (Aston) Lloyd, George Butler Starkey, Captain John Ralph
Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord H. (Ox. Univ.) Lloyd-Greame, Sir P. Steel, Major S. Strang
Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. J. A. (Birm. W.) Locker-Lampson, Com. O. (H'tingd'n) Stewart, Gershom
Clay. Lieut.-Colonel H. H. Spender Lorden, John William Sturrock, J. Leng
Clough, Sir Robert Lort-Williams, J. Surtees, Brigadier-General H. C.
Coats, Sir Stuart Lowe. Sir Francis William Sutherland, Sir William
Colfox, Major Wm. Phillips Lowther, Maj.-Gen. Sir C. (Penrith) Terrell, George (Wilts, Chippenham)
Colvin, Brig. General Richard Beale Loyd, Arthur Thomas (Abingdon) Thomas, Brig.-Gen. Sir O. (Anglesey)
Conway, Sir W. Martin McCurdy, Rt. Hon. Charles A. Thomas, Sir Robert J. (Wrexham)
Cope, Major William Macdonald, Sir Murdoch (Inverness) Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South)
Courthope, Lieut.-Col. George L. McLaren, Hon. H. D. (Leicester) Thomson, Sir w. Mitchell- (Maryhill)
Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities) McLaren, Robert (Lanark, Northern) Thorpe, Captain John Henry
Cowan, Sir H. (Aberdeen and Kinc.) M'Lean, Lieut.-Col. Charles W. W. Townley, Maximilian G.
Curzon, Captain Viscount McMicking, Major Gilbert Tryon, Major George Clement
Daizlel, Sir D. (Lambeth, Brixton) Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J. Vickers, Douglas
Davidson, Major-General Sir J. H. Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I. Wallace, J.
Davies, Alfred Thomas (Lincoln) Maitland, Sir Arthur D. Steel. Walton, J. (York, W. R., Don Valley)
Davies, Thomas (Cirencester) Manville, Edward Ward, Col. L. (Kingston-upon-Hull)
Dewhurst, Lieut.-Commander Harry Marriott, John Arthur Ransome Waring, Major Walter
Doyle, N. Grattan Mason, Robert Watson, Captain John Bertrand
Du Pre, Colonel William Baring Meysey-Thompson, Lieut.-Col. E. C. Wheler, Col. Granville C. H.
Edgar, Clifford B. Mond, Rt. Hon. Sir Alfred Moritz White, Col. G. D. (Southport)
Ednam, Viscount Moore, Major General Sir Newton J. Whitla, Sir William
Edwards, Hugh (Glam., Neath) Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C. Williams, C. (Tavistock)
Elveden, Viscount Moreing. Captain Algernon. H. Williams, Lt.-Col. Sir R. (Banbury)
Erskine, James Malcolm Monteith Morrison-Bell, Major A. C. Wills, Lt.-Col. Sir Gilbert Alan H
Evans, Ernest Munro, Rt. Hon. Robert Windsor, Viscount
Eyres-Monsell, Com. Bolton M. Murchison, C. K. Winfrey, Sir Richard
Falcon, Captain Michael Murray, Rt. Hon. C. D. (Edinburgh) Winterton, Earl
Falle, Major Sir Bertram Godfray Murray, John (Leeds, West) Wise, Frederick
Fisher, Rt. Hon. Herbert A. L. Nail, Major Joseph Wood, Hon. Edward F. L. (Ripon),
Foot, Isaac Neal, Arthur Wood, Sir J. (Stalybridge & Hyde)
Ford, Patrick Johnston Newman, Colonel J. R. P. (Finchley) Wood, Major Sir S. Hill-(High Peak),
Forrest, Walter Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L.
Foxcroft, Captain Charles Talbot Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) Young, E. H. (Norwich)
Fraser, Major Sir Keith Nicholson, Brig-Gen. J. (Westminster) Younger, Sir George
Ganzoni, Sir John Nicholson, Reginald (Doncaster)
Gibbs, Colonel George Abraham Norman, Major Rt. Hon. Sir Henry TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Gilbert, James Daniel Norris, Colonel Sir Henry G. Colonel Leslie Wilson and Mr.
Gilmour, Lieut.-Colonel Sir John Norton-Griffiths, Lieut.-Col. Sir John Parker.
Goff, Sir R. Park O'Neill, Rt. Hon. Hugh
NOES.
Adamson, Rt. Hon. William Barnes, Major H. (Newcastle, E.) Briant, Frank
Ammon, Charles George Barton, Sir William (Oldham) Bromfield, William
Banton, George Bell, James (Lancaster, Ormskirk) Cairns, John
Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) Benn, Captain Wedgwood (Leith) Cape, Thomas.
Collins, Sir Godfrey (Greenock) Holmes, J. Stanley Sitch, Charles H.
Davies, A. (Lancaster, Clitheroe) Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Spencer, George A.
Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) Kiley, James Daniel Sutton, John Edward
Davison, J. E. (Smethwick) Lambert, Rt. Hon. George Swan, J. E.
Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) Lawson, John James Thomson, T. (Middlesbrough, West)
Edwards, G. (Norfolk, South) Lunn, William Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
Entwistle, Major C. F. Maclean, Neil (Glasgow, Govan) Tillett, Benjamin
Finney, Samuel Maclean, Rt. Hn. Sir D. (Midlothian) Walsh, Stephen (Lancaster, Ince)
Gillis, William Malone, C. L. (Leyton, E.) Waterson, A. E.
Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) Mosley, Oswald Wedgwood, Colonel Josiah C.
Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) Naylor, Thomas Ellis Wilson, James (Dudley)
Grundy, T. W. Newbould, Alfred Ernest Wintringham, Margaret
Guest, J. (York, W.R., Hamsworth) Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan) Wood, Major M. M. (Aberdeen, C.)
Hartshorn, Vernon Raffan, Peter Wilson Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton)
Hayday, Arthur Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring)
Henderson, Rt. Hon. A. (Widnes) Rose, Frank H. TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Hirst, G. H. Shaw, Thomas (Preston) Mr. Walter Smith and Mr.
Hogge, James Myles Short, Alfred (Wednesbury) Charles White.