HC Deb 07 December 1922 vol 159 cc1996-2001
Mr. RAMSAY MacDONALD

Can the Prime Minister say what is the business for next week? Will he also say how far he proposes to go with the Orders to-day?

The PRIME MINISTER

I hope to get the business which I have already stated to the House for to-day and to-morrow carried in the two days. I do not think it is possible to carry everything that appears on the Paper for to-night. The business for next week will be:

Monday: Importation of Animals Bill, Committee, and, if there should be anything left over from Friday, I hope we shall be able to take it.

Tuesday: Importation of Animals Bill, Report and Third Reading; Supplementary Estimates, Reports of the 7th and 8th December, if not taken on Friday.

Wednesday and Thursday: Consolidated Fund Bill, Second and Third Readings.

Friday: Lords Amendments to Bills, and Prorogation.

Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY

Can the right hon. Gentleman say whether if the first two Orders take until midnight it is proposed to take Supplementary Estimates to-night?

The PRIME MINISTER

The Government are meeting the general convenience of the House in finishing our business on Friday in next week. That cannot be done unless there is good will in the House. I hope we shall have it.

Lieut.-Commander KENWORTHY

Is it not essential that Estimates should be taken at a reasonably early hour, and could not some of the other Orders be taken later, if necessary, so that the Estimates could come on at a reasonable time?

The PRIME MINISTER

I can assure the hon. Member that it is the desire of the Government, that everything should be taken at a reasonable time, but we have made what seems to me the best arrangements possible if we are to finish next week.

Mr. MacDONALD

Can the Prime Minister give the House any idea now as to when he proposes to ask us to come back for the next Session?

The PRIME MINISTER

I would rather that the hon. Gentleman would ask me that question some day next week.

Mr. PRINGLE

Can the right hon. Gentleman arrange that, as far as possible, the Supplementary Estimates which are taken late to-night should be those of lesser importance, so as to enable us to deal with the more important Estimates to-morrow?

The PRIME MINISTER

As a rule it is the practice—and I am sure that it will be done in this case—to take them in the order in which they are announced.

Mr. MACPHERSON

On a point of Order. May I ask a question as to questions affecting Scotland? On no day, so far as I can gather, during this Session have Scottish questions been reached. Would it not be possible that on at least one day in the week Scottish questions should appear earlier on the Paper so that they can be reached?

The PRIME MINISTER

My hon. Friend has already drawn my attention to the fact that Scottish questions were

not being reached at all, and he has arranged to take them third on Tuesdays.

Captain BENN

Are not Scottish Members under the double disadvantage that they have no Scottish Minister to interrogate, and no day on which to interrogate them?

The PRIME MINISTER

If the hon. and gallant Member wishes to press the matter further, there is also the disadvantage that we have a Government in which there are not enough Scotchmen.

Ordered, That the Proceedings on the Importation of Animals Bill and the Trade Facilities and Loans Guarantee Bill have precedence this day of the Business of Supply."—[The Prime Minister.]

Motion made, and Question put, "That the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted at this day's Sitting from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House).—[The Prime Minister.]

The House divided: Ayes, 256: Noes, 146.

Division No. 22.] AYES. [3.53 p.m.
Agg-Gardner, Sir James Tynte Cassels, J. D. Fawkes, Major F. H.
Alexander, E. E. (Leyton, East) Cautley, Henry Strother Fermor-Hesketh, Major T.
Allen, Lieut.-Col. Sir William James Cayzer, Sir C. (Chester, City) Fisher, Rt. Hon. Herbert A. L.
Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. Cecil, Rt. Hon. Sir Evelyn (Aston) Ford, Patrick Johnston
Apsley, Lord Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. J. A. (Birm. W.) Foreman, Sir Henry
Astbury, Lieut.-Com. Frederick W. Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Ladywood) Forestier-Walker, L.
Astor, J. J. (Kent, Dover) Chapman, Sir S. Foxcroft, Captain Charles Talbot
Baird, Rt. Hon. Sir John Lawrence Churchman, Sir Arthur Fraser, Major Sir Keith
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Clarry, Reginald George Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E.
Balfour, George (Hampstead) Clay, Lieut.-Colonel H. H. Spender Ganzoni, Sir John
Barlow, Rt. Hon. Sir Montague Clayton, G. C. Gardiner, James
Barnett, Major Richard W. Cockerill, Brigadier-General G. K. Gates, Percy
Becker, Harry Colfox, Major Wm. Phillips George, Major G. L. (Pembroke)
Bellairs, Commander Carlyon W. Colvin, Brig.-General Richard Beale Gilbert, James Daniel
Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) Conway, Sir W. Martin Goff, Sir R. Park
Bennett, A. J. (Mansfield) Cotts, Sir William Dingwall Mitchell Gould, James C.
Bentinck, Lord Henry Cavendish- Courthope, Lieut.-Col. George L. Gray, Harold (Cambridge)
Berry, Sir George Craig, Captain C. C. (Antrim, South) Greaves-Lord, Walter
Betterton, Henry B. Craik, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry Greene, Lt.-Col. Sir W. (Hack'y, N.)
Birchall, Major J. Dearman Crooke, J. S. (Deritend) Greenwood, William (Stockport)
Bird, Sir R. B. (Wolverhampton, W.) Curzon, Captain Viscount Gretton, Colonel John
Blades, Sir George Rowland Dalziel, Sir D. (Lambeth, Brixton) Guinness, Lieut.-Col. Hon. W. E.
Blundell, F. N. Davidson, J.C. C. (Hemel Hempstead) Gwynne, Rupert S.
Bowyer, Capt. G. E. W. Davies, Alfred Thomas (Lincoln) Hacking, Captain Douglas H.
Boyd-Carpenter, Major A. Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) Hall, Rr-Admi Sir W.(Liv'p'I, W.D'by)
Brass, Captain W. Dixon, C. H. (Rutland) Halstead, Major D.
Brassey, Sir Leonard Doyle, N. Grattan Hamilton, Sir George C. (Altrincham)
Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William Clive Du Pre, Colonel William Baring Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry
Briggs, Harold Edge, Captain Sir William Harmsworth, Hon. E. C. (Kent)
Brittain, Sir Harry Edmondson, Major A. J. Harrison, F. C.
Brown, Brig. Gen. Clifton (Newbury) Ednam, Viscount Hawke, John Anthony
Brown, J. W. (Middlesbrough, E.) Elliot, Capt. Walter E (Lanark) Hay, Major T. W. (Norfolk, South)
Bruford, R. Ellis, R. G. Henderson, Sir T. (Roxburgh)
Bruton, Sir James Elveden, Viscount Henn, Sir Sydney H.
Buckingham, Sir H. England, Lieut.-Colonel A. Hennessy, Major J. R. G.
Buckley, Lieut.-Colonel A. Erskine, Lord (Weston-super-Mare) Herbert, S. (Scarborough)
Burn, Col. C. R. (Devon, Torquay) Erskine-Bolst, Captain C. Hewett, Sir J. P.
Burney, Com. (Middx., Uxbridge) Evans, Capt. H. Arthur (Leicester, E.) Hiley, Sir Ernest
Butler, H. M. (Leeds, North) Evans, Ernest (Cardigan) Hinds, John
Butt, Sir Alfred Eyres-Monsell, Com. Bolton M. Hoare, Lieut.-Colonel Sir S. J. G.
Button, H. S. Falcon, Captain Michael Hogg, Rt. Hon. Sir D. (St. Marylebone)
Campion, Lieut.-Colonel W. R. Falle, Major Sir Bertram Godfray Holbrook, Sir Arthur Richard
Hood, Sir Joseph Morrison-Bell, Major A. C. (Honiton) Shepperson, E. W.
Hopkins, John W. W. Murchison, C. K. Skelton, A. N.
Houston, Sir Robert Patterson Newman, Colonel J. R. P. (Finchley) Somerville, Daniel (Barrow-in-Furness)
Howard, Capt. D. (Cumberland, N.) Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) Sparkes, H. W.
Howard-Bury, Lieut.-Col. C. K. Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) Spears, Brig-Gen. E. L.
Hudson, Capt. A. Nicholson, Brig.-Gen. J. (Westminster) Stanley, Lord
Hughes, Collingwood Nicholson, William G. (Petersfield) Steel, Major S. Strang
Hurd, Percy A. Nield, Sir Herbert Stewart, Gershom (Wirral)
Hurst, Lt.-Col. Gerald Berkeley Norton-Griffiths, Lieut.-Col. Sir John Stott, Lt.-Col. W. H.
Hutchison, G. A. C. (Peebles, N.) Oman, Sir Charles William C. Strauss, Edward Anthony
Hutchison, W. (Kelvingrove) Ormsby-Gore, Hon. William Stuart, Lord C. Crichton-
Jackson, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. F. S. Paget, T. G. Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser
James, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert Parker, Owen (Kettering) Sugden, Sir Wilfrid H.
Jarrett, G. W. S. Parry, Lieut.-Colonel Thomas Henry Sutherland, Rt. Hon. Sir William
Jephcott, A. R. Pease, Rt. Hon. Herbert Pike Sykes, Major-Gen. Sir Frederick H.
Johnson, Sir L. (Walthamstow, E.) Pennefather, De Fonblanque Terrell, Captain R. (Oxford, Henley)
Joynson-Hicks, Sir William Penny, Frederick George Thomson, Luke (Sunderland)
Kennedy, Captain M. S. Nigel Peto, Basil E. Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South)
King, Capt. Henry Douglas Pielou, D. P. Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement Pilditch, Sir Philip Tubbs, S. W.
Lamb, J. Q. Pownall, Lieut.-Colonel Assheton Turton, Edmund Russborough
Law, Rt. Hon. A. B. (Glasgow, C.) Pretyman, Rt. Hon. Ernest G. Vaughan-Morgan, Col. K. P.
Leigh, Sir John (Clapham) Privett, F. J. Wallace, Captain E.
Lloyd-Greame, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Raeburn, Sir William H. Waring, Major Walter
Locker-Lampson, Com. O. (Handsw'th) Raine, W, Watson, Capt. J. (Stockton-on-Tees)
Lorimer, H. D. Rawson, Lieut.-Com. A. C. Watts, Dr. T. (Man., Withington)
Lowe, Sir Francis William Rees, Sir Beddoe Wells, S. R.
Loyd, Arthur Thomas (Abingdon) Reid, Capt. A. S. C. (Warrington) Weston, Colonel John Wakefield
Lumley, L. R. Rentoul, G. S. Wheler, Col. Granville C. H.
M'Connell, Thomas E. Reynolds, W. G. W. White, Lt.-Col. G. D. (Southport)
McCurdy, Rt. Hon. Charles A. Richardson, Sir Alex. (Gravesend) Whitla, Sir William
Macnaghten, Hon. Sir Malcolm Richardson, Lt.-Col. Sir P. (Chrtsy) Windsor, Viscount
McNeill, Ronald (Kent, Canterbury) Roberts, Rt. Hon. Sir S. (Ecclesall) Winterton, Earl
Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I. Robertson, J. D. (Islington, W.) Wise, Frederick
Makins, Brigadier-General E. Roundell, Colonel R. F. Wolmer, Viscount
Malone, Major P. B. (Tottenham, S.) Ruggles-Brise, Major E. Wood, Major Sir S. Hill- (High Peak)
Martin, A. E. (Essex, Romford) Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) Woodcock, Colonel H. C.
Mason, Lieut.-Col. C. K. Russell, William (Bolton) Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L.
Milne, J. S. Wardlaw Russell-Wells, Sir Sydney Yate, Colonel Sir Charles Edward
Mitchell, W. F. (Saffron Walden) Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) Yerburgh, R. D. T.
Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Sanders, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert A. Young, Rt. Hon. E. H. (Norwich)
Molson, Major John Elsdale Sanderson, Sir Frank B.
Moore, Major-General Sir Newton J. Shakespeare, G. H. TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Morden, Col. W. Grant Sheffield, Sir Berkeley Colonel Gibbs and Major Barnston.
Morrison, Hugh (Wilts, Salisbury)
NOES.
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Falconer, J. Lee, F.
Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') Foot, Isaac Linfield, F. C.
Asquith, Rt. Hon. Herbert Henry Graham, W. (Edinburgh, Central) Lowth, T.
Attlee, C. R. Gray, Frank (Oxford) MacDonald, J. R. (Aberavon)
Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Colne) M'Entee, V. L.
Barnes, A, Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) McLaren, Andrew
Batey, Joseph Groves, T. Maclean, Neil (Glasgow, Govan)
Benn, Captain Wedgwood (Leith) Grundy, T. W. March, S.
Berkeley, Captain Reginald Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) Marshall, Sir Arthur H.
Bonwick, A. Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Martin, F. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, E.)
Bowdler, W. A. Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland) Mathew, C. J.
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. Hancock, John George Maxton, James
Broad, F. A. Harbord, Arthur Middleton, G.
Brotherton, J. Harris, Percy A. Millar, J. D.
Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) Hay, Captain J. P. (Cathcart) Morel, E. D.
Buchanan, G. Hayday, Arthur Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.)
Buckie, J. Herriotts, J. Mosley, Oswald
Burgess, S. Hill, A. Muir, John W.
Burnie, Major J. (Bootle) Hillary, A. E. Murnin, H.
Buxton, Charles (Accrington) Hirst, G. H. Murray, R. (Renfrew, Western)
Buxton, Noel (Norfolk, North) Hodge, Rt. Hon. John Nichol, Robert
Cairns, John Hodge, Lieut.-Col. J. P. (Preston) O'Connor, Thomas P.
Chapple, W. A. Hogge, James Myles Oliver, George Harold
Charleton, H. C. John, William (Rhondda, West) Phillipps, Vivian
Clarke, Sir E. C. Johnston, Thomas (Stirling) Ponsonby, Arthur
Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) Pringle, W. M. R.
Collins, Pat (Walsall) Jones, R. T. (Carnarvon) Richards, R.
Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities) Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring)
Darbishire, C. W. Jowett, F. w. (Bradford, East) Riley, Ben
Davies, Evan (Ebbw Vale) Kelley, Major Fred (Rotherham) Ritson, J.
Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) Kenworthy, Lieut.-Commander J. M. Roberts, C. H. (Derby)
Davison, J. E. (Smethwick) Kenyon, Barnet Roberts, Frederick O. (W. Bromwich)
Duncan, C. Kirkwood, D. Robertson, J. (Lanark, Bothwell)
Dunnico, H. Lambert, Rt. Hon, George Rose, Frank H.
Edmonds, G. Lansbury, George Salter, Dr. A.
Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) Lawson, John James Scrymgeour, E.
Emlyn-Jones, J. E. (Dorset, N.) Leach, W. Sexton, James
Shaw, Hon. Alex. (Kilmarnock) Sullivan, J. Westwood, J.
Shaw, Thomas (Preston) Thomson, T. (Middlesbrough, West) Wheatley, J.
Shinwell, Emanuel Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton, E.) White, Charles F. (Derby, Western)
Short, Alfred (Wednesbury) Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow) White, H. G. (Birkenhead, E.)
Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir John Thornton, M. Whiteley, W.
Simpson, J. Hope Tout, W. J. Wignall, James
Sitch, Charles H. Trevelyan, C. P. Williams, David (Swansea, E.)
Smith, T. (Pontefract) Warne, G. H. Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow)
Snell, Harry Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline) Wood, Major M. M. (Aberdeen, C.)
Snowden, Philip Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda) Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton)
Spencer, George A, (Broxtowe) Webb, Sidney
Stephen, Campbell Wedgwood, Colonel Josiah C. TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Stewart, J. (St. Rollox) Weir, L. M. Mr. Lunn and Mr. Morgan Jones.