HC Deb 15 July 1920 vol 131 cc2605-9

Can the Leader of the House state what business will be taken next week?


On Monday, the Unemployment Insurance Bill, Third Reading; Money Resolution of the Telegraph Bill; Nauru Island Bill, Third Reading; and other Orders if possible.

Tuesday: Indemnity (Recommitted) Bill, Committee; Ministry of Food Bill; and, if possible, other Orders.

Thursday: Supply, Post Office.

I would rather leave the business for Wednesday to be stated on Monday.


In regard to the Motion standing in the name of the right hon. Gentleman with respect to proceedings on the War Pensions Bill, does the right hon. Gentleman not think it is hardly fair to the Opposition or to the friendly critics of the Bill that this should be the only notice that is given to them, that they should come to the House on a Supply day, which they know is devoted solely to business of Supply, and be faced with this Motion for the first time, that it is proposed to take this very important measure, if possible, before eleven o'clock, and, if not, after eleven o'clock? Would it not have been better to give, through the usual channels, the usual courteous notice of the intention of the Government in regard to a matter of this importance?


As regards taking the Bill after 11 o'clock, the House must realise that unless they co-operate with the Government and get through business it will be very long before we have the Adjournment. It will be necessary to take more business after 11 o'clock if we are to have the Adjournment at a reasonable time. The War Pensions Bill has been on the Paper for a long time, and my Noble Friend (Lord E. Talbot) tells me that it was really by accident that he did not mention it through the usual channels yesterday. He regrets that that was not done.

Captain W. BENN

On a point of Order, Mr. Speaker. I should like to ask your ruling with regard to the Motion in the name of the Leader of the House. It consists of two questions. Standing Order No. 1, paragraph (7), lays down in precise words the way in which a Motion for the Suspension of the Eleven o'Clock Rule may be put to the House and decided without Amendment or Debate. Standing Order 15, paragraph (5), lays it down that a Motion may be made that business other than business of Supply may be taken on a Supply day, without Amendment or Debate. Is it proper that both these questions should be put together in an omnibus Resolution of this kind? Should not the question be put separately from the Chair?


If it will suit the hon. and gallant Gentleman, I will put the question in two parts.

Lieut.-Colonel CROFT

Can the Leader of the House tell us when the discussion will be taken on the Report of the National Expenditure Committee concerning St. Omer.


I believe it has been arranged through the usual channels that one Supply Day will be taken for that purpose, but the particular day has not yet been fixed.


Can the right hon. Gentleman say when the Pensions Increase Bill will be taken?


We hope to take it next week.

Motion made, and Question put, "That the Proceedings on the War Pensions Bill be exempted at this day's Sitting from the provisions of the Standing Order

(Sittings of the House)."—[Mr. Bonar Law.]

The House divided: Ayes, 211; Noes, 52.

Division No 216.] AYES. [4.0 p.m.
Addison, Rt. Hon. Dr. C. Glyn, Major Ralph Mount, William Arthur
Ainsworth, Captain Charles Goff, Sir R. Park Munro, Rt. Hon. Robert
Amery, Lieut.-Col. Leopold C. M. S. Green, Joseph F. (Leicester, W.) Murray, Lieut.-Colonel A. (Aberdeen)
Armitage, Robert Greenwood, William (Stockport) Murray, John (Leeds, West)
Ashley, Colonel Wilfrid W. Greig, Colonel James William Murray, Major William (Dumfries)
Atkey, A. R. Guinness, Lieut.-Col. Hon. W. E. Neal, Arthur
Baird, Sir John Lawrence Hacking, Captain Douglas H. Newman, Colonel J. R. P. (Finchley)
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) Nicholl, Commander Sir Edward
Barnston, Major Harry Harmsworth, C. B. (Bedford, Luton) Nicholson, William G. (Petersfield)
Barton, Sir William (Oldham) Harris, Sir Henry Percy Palmer, Major Godfrey Mark
Beckett, Hon. Gervase Hennessy, Major J. R. G. Palmer, Brigadier-General G. L.
Bell, Lieut.-Col. W. C. H. (Devizes) Henry, Denis S. (Londonderry, S.) Parkinson, Albert L. (Blackpool)
Bellairs, Commander Canyon W. Herbert, Hon. A. (Somerset, Yeovil) Peel, Col. Hn. S. (Uxbridge, Mddx.)
Bentinck, Lord Henry Cavendish Hewart, Rt. Hon. Sir Gordon Pollock, Sir Ernest M.
Bethell, Sir John Henry Hickman, Brig.-General Thomas E. Pownall, Lieut.-Colonel Assheton
Betterton, Henry B. Hinds, John Prescott, Major W. H.
Bigland, Alfred Holbrook, Sir Arthur Richard Pretyman, Rt. Hon. Ernest G.
Bird, Sir A. (Wolverhampton, West) Hope, Sir H. (Stirling & Cl'ckm'nn,W.) Raper, A. Baldwin
Blair, Reginald Hope, James F. (Sheffield, Central) Rees, Sir J. D. (Nottingham, East)
Blake, Sir Francis Douglas Hope, Lt.-Col. Sir J. A. (Midlothian) Rees, Capt. J. Tudor- (Barnstaple)
Borwick, Major G. O. Hopkins, John W. W. Remer, J. R.
Boscawen, Rt. Hon. Sir A. Griffith- Hopkinson, A. (Lancaster, Mossley) Renwick, George
Bowyer, Captain G. E. W. Horne, Sir R. S. (Glasgow, Hillhead) Roberts, Rt. Hon. G. H. (Norwich)
Brassey, Major H. L. C. Hotchkin, Captain Stafford Vere Robinson, Sir T. (Lancs., Stratford)
Bridgeman, William Clive Howard, Major S. G. Roundell, Colonel R. F.
Briggs, Harold Hunter, General Sir A. (Lancaster) Royds, Lieut.-Colonel Edmund
Broad, Thomas Tucker Hurd, Percy A. Rutherford, Colonel Sir J. (Darwen)
Brown, Captain D. C. Illingworth, Rt. Hon. A. H. Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham)
Bruton, Sir James James, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert Sanders, Colonel Sir Robert A.
Buchanan, Lieut.-Colonel A. L. H. Jesson, C. Scott, A. M. (Glasgow, Bridgeton)
Buckley, Lieut.-Colonel A. Jodrell, Neville Paul Seager, Sir William
Bull, Rt. Hon. Sir William James Johnstone, Joseph Seely, Major-General Rt. Hon. John
Burn, Col. C. R. (Devon, Torquay) Jones, Sir Evan (Pembroke) Sprot, Colonel Sir Alexander
Butcher, Sir John George Jones, J. T. (Carmarthen, Llanelly) Stanier, Captain Sir Beville
Casey, T. W. Jones, William Kennedy (Hornsey) Stanley, Major H. G. (Preston)
Chadwick, Sir Robert Kellaway, Rt. Hon. Fredk. George Stevens, Marshall
Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. J. A.(Birm.,W.) King, Commander Henry Douglas Stewart, Gershom
Chamberlain, N. (Birm., Ladywood) Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement Strauss, Edward Anthony
Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston S. Lambert, Rt. Hon. George Sturrock, J. Long
Clay, Lieut.-Colonel H. H. Spender Lane-Fox, G. R. Sugden, W. H.
Cohen, Major J. Brunel Law, Alfred J. (Rochdale) Surtees, Brigadier-General H. C.
Conway, Sir W. Martin Law, Rt. Hon. A. B. (Glasgow, C.) Sutherland, Sir William
Coote, Colin Reith (Isle of Ely) Lewis, T. A. (Glam., Pontypridd) Talbot, G. A. (Hemel Hempstead)
Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities) Lister, Sir R. Ashton Taylor, J.
Craig, Colonel Sir J. (Down, Mid) Lloyd, George Butler Terrell, Captain R. (Oxford, Henley)
Craik, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry Lloyd-Greame, Major Sir P. Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South)
Croft, Lieut.-Colonel Henry Page Locker-Lampson, G. (Wood Green) Thomson, Sir W. Mitchell- (Maryhill)
Curzon, Commander Viscount Locker-Lampson, Corn. O. (H'tlngd'n) Townley, Maximilian G.
Dalziel, Sir D. (Lambeth, Brixton) Lorden, John William Wallace, J.
Davies, Alfred Thomas (Lincoln) Loseby, Captain C. E. Walters, Sir John Tudor
Davies, Thomas (Cirencester) Lyle-Samuel, Alexander Waring, Major Walter
Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) M'Donald, Dr. Bouverie F. P. Warner, Sir T. Courtenay T.
Dockrell, Sir Maurice Macdonald, Rt. Hon. John Murray Wason, John Cathcart
Duncannon, Viscount McLaren, Robert (Lanark, Northern) Wheler, Lieut.-Colonel C. H.
Edwards, Alien C. (East Ham, S.) M'Lean, Lieut.-Col. Charles W. W. Whitla, Sir William
Edwards, Major J. (Aberavon) Macleod, J. Mackintosh Williams, Lt.-Com. C. (Tavistock)
Edwards, John H. (Glam., Meath) Macmaster, Donald Williams, Col. Sir R. (Dorset, W.)
Elliot, Capt. Walter E. (Lanark) M'Micking, Major Gilbert Williamson, Rt. Hon. Sir Archibald
Eyres-Monsell, Commander B. M. Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J. Wilson, Daniel M. (Down, West)
Falle, Major Sir Bertram G. McNeill, Ronald (Kent, Canterbury) Wilson, Rt. Hon. J. W. (Stourbridge)
Fell, Sir Arthur Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I. Wilson, Colonel Leslie O. (Reading)
Fildes, Henry Malone, Major P. B. (Tottenham, S.) Wilson, Lieut.-Col. M. J. (Richmond)
Fisher, Rt. Hon. Herbert A. L. Marriott, John Arthur Ransome Winterton, Major Earl
FitzRoy, Captain Hon. E. A. Martin, Captain A. E. Wood, Hon. Edward F. L. (Ripon)
Ford, Patrick Johnston Matthews, David Yate, Colonel Charles Edward
Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E Mitchell, William Lane Yeo, Sir Alfred William
Ganzoni, Captain Francis John C. Mond, Rt. Hon. Sir Alfred M. Young, Lieut.-Com. E. H. (Norwich)
Gardiner, James Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C.
Gardner, Ernest Morison, Rt. Hon. Thomas Brash TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Gibbs, Colonel George Abraham Morris, Richard Lord E. Talbot and Mr. Dudley Ward.
Gilbert, James Daniel Morrison, Hugh
Gilmour, Lieut.-Colonel John Morrison-Bell, Major A. C.
Acland, Rt. Hon. F. D. Bottomley, Horatio W. Brown, James (Ayr and Bute)
Asquith, Rt. Hon. Herbert Henry Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. Cape, Thomas
Benn, Captain Wedgwood (Leith) Brace, Rt. Hon. William Carter, W. (Nottingham, Mansfield)
Clynes, Rt. Hon. J. R. Kenworthy, Lieut.-Commander J. M. Short, Alfred (Wednesbury)
Crooks, Rt. Hon. William Kiley, James D. Sitch, Charles H.
Davison, J. E. (Smethwick) Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan) Sugden, W. H.
Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) Maclean, Rt. Hn. Sir D. (Midlothian) Swan, J. E.
Finney, Samuel MacVeagh, Jeremiah Thomson, T. (Middlesbrough, West)
Galbraith, Samuel Mills, John Edmund Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton, E.)
Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) Morgan, Major D. Watts Waterson, A. E.
Graham, R. (Nelson and Colne) Murray, Dr. D. (Inverness & Ross) Wedgwood, Colonel J. C.
Grundy, T. W. Myers, Thomas White, Charles F. (Derby, Western)
Guest, J. (York, W. R., Hemsworth) Newbould, Alfred Ernest Wignall, James
Hallas, Eldred O'Grady, Captain James Wilson, W. Tyson (Westhoughton)
Hancock, John George Palmer, Charles Frederick (Wrekin) Wood, Major M. M. (Aberdeen, C.)
Hartshorn, Vernon Rattan, Peter Wilson
Hayday, Arthur Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Hodge, Rt. Hon. John Rose, Frank H. Mr. T. Griffiths and Mr. Hogge.
Irving, Dan Sexton, James

Ordered, That the Proceedings on the War Pensions Bill may, notwithstanding anything in Standing Order No. 15, be taken before Eleven of the clock.—[Mr. Bonar Law.]