HC Deb 05 May 1919 vol 115 c578
43. Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE

asked what becomes of the unemployment contributions paid by hired men in the Royal dockyards when these men are established; and are the contributions they have paid returned to them?

Sir R. HORNE

The contributions remain credited to his personal account and are available for payment of unemployment benefit should he at any time, through change of occupation, or for any other reason, become eligible for same.

Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that he would never become eligible?

Sir R. HORNE

He would not become eligible so long as he is on the establishment, but if he comes off the establishment and require it he then does get it.

Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that an established man never comes off the establishment, but receives a pension?

Sir R. HORNE

No; I am not aware of that.

65. Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether, now that it has been decided that men in the Royal dockyards are to receive the 12½per cent. on the hired rate of pay, he can say if this Regulation will be retrospective?

Dr. MACNAMARA

No, Sir.

66. Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether he can say if pensioners from the Royal dockyards are pensioned on established or hired pay?

Dr. MACNAMARA

The pensions of dockyard workmen are assessed upon established rates of pay.

Sir C. KINLOCH-COOKE

Will the right hon. Gentleman say why?

Dr. MACNAMARA

I think it is not inequitable to base their pensions on established rather than on hired pay.