§ What more ought to be done? Steps ought to be taken to humanise industry, by the improvement of the conditions in the workshops. I am not sure that we are as advanced as even many of the work shops in Germany in this respect. We must secure the co-operation of Labour in industry, and make the workmen feel that they have an interest in the industry—not management, because you cannot manage a business by a committee. Finance and the commercial side of industry you cannot manage by a committee. But, apart from that, there are two aspects of the question which deserve further consideration. The first is that the co-operation of workmen ought to be secured to a larger degree on the industrial side of an industry—the conditions under which the industry is carried on—which means not merely wages and hours, but a multitude of other matters which affect the comfort and efficiency of the workmen. The Committees which bear your name, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, and with which you will always be honourably associated, represent a great advance in this respect. National Committees—Whitley Committees, if I may use the phrase—have already been set up in industries representing something like 2,250,000 of the work men of this country. Unfortunately, the local committees, the district committees, and the works committees have not yet een set up. I could have wished it had been possible to begin at the bottom, and work up to the top, rather than to begin at the top, and work down to the bottom, because until that co-operation be secured in the works, I do not think the aim you had in mind, Sir, will ever be achieved.