§ 60. Mr. BUTCHERasked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether his attention has been called to the proposal made by Sir W. Plender, in his Report of the 16th December, 1916, that the outstanding debts and assets of the Deutsche Bank, the Disconto-Gesellschaft, the Dresdner Bank, the Oesterreichische Laender Bank, and the Anglo-Austrian Bank should be vested in the custodian of enemy property, to be realised by him as far as possible, and administered in accordance with the licences granted to the banks by the Home Secretary; whether this proposal was con- 1835 sidered and rejected by the Government; and, if so, whether there exist for such rejection any better reasons than those advanced by Mr. W. Leaf and Sir R. V. Vassar-Smith in their Report of 12th January, 1917?
§ Mr. BONAR LAWThe answer to the first two parts of the question is in the affirmative. I have recently again considered a suggested alteration in the method employed in the collection and disposal of the assets of the London agencies of the enemy banks, but the results achieved under Sir William Plender's direction since the investigation of this question by Mr. Leaf and Sir Richard Vassar-Smith confirm me in the view that to make the change suggested would not hasten the final liquidation of the banks.
Mr. FABERIs not the amount of the still outstanding assets a relatively trivial matter compared with the overweening necessity of winding up these banks once and for all?
§ Mr. BONAR LAWI have looked into this question very closely, and the rights of individuals are bound up with it, and I do not think we should be justified in taking the course suggested.
§ Mr. BILLINGAre they individual Britishers or individual Germans?
Mr. FABERIn the circumstances would it not be better to reimburse the individuals and close these banks?
§ Mr. BONAR LAWI do not think so. I think that everything that can be done is being done to wind up these banks effectively and quickly.
Mr. HENDERSONIs it not a fact that they are practically wound up; that they have ceased to exist as banks?
§ Mr. BONAR LAWOf course, they have ceased to exist as banks.
§ Mr. BONAR LAWSome of their assets have to be realised, and that is the point.
§ 61. Mr. BUTCHERasked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, having regard to the statements in paragraph 21 of Sir W. Plender's Report of 13th December, 1917, and fully recognising the valuable services rendered by Sir W. Plender in the liquidation of the German and Austrian 1836 banks in this country, he will request Sir W. Plender to make a further Report not later than June, 1918, with a view, if possible, of terminating his duties as controller of these banks?
§ Mr. BONAR LAWIt does not appear that any useful purpose would be served at the moment by asking Sir William Plender to make a further Report not later than June, 1918. His last Report dealt exhaustively with the position at 30th September, 1917, and explained the nature of the operations still to be undertaken. I understand that the delivery of securities to the custodian is proceeding as quickly as possible, but that certain Vesting Orders embracing the most important section of the securities, both in value and bulk, are still to be made. A further Report will be asked for at 30th September this year.
§ Mr. BUTCHERWhen these Orders now in contemplation have been made and the securities still belonging to the banks have been placed in safe custody, will the right hon. Gentleman see that the proceedings for the winding up of the banks are brought to an end and the question of the adjustment of the rights of individuals be considered hereafter?
§ Mr. BONAR LAWIt is the wish of the Government that the banks should be wound up effectively as soon as possible. I think that nothing is gained by doing more than we are doing now.
§ Sir J. D. REESAre there not small committees of administration? Is it correct to speak of Sir W. Plender as the Controller?
Mr. HENDERSONIs it not a fact that the mere vesting of assets in the Public Trustee completely closes the banks for all operations in this country, and that simply to force realisation would be to injure ourselves, when there are so many assets which cannot possibly be realised until after the War is over?
§ Mr. BONAR LAWNo, I do not take the view of my hon. Friend. I think that the general desire, with which I sympathise, is that the banks should, if possible, be finally closed.