HC Deb 24 June 1918 vol 107 cc713-4
59. Sir A. WILLIAMSON

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty if James Milne, of Nairn, a qualified skipper and extra master since April, 1914, who has been acting as master of a trawler with eight men under him since June, 1915, on boom defence, has now been ordered to be transferred to the Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve as an ordinary seaman, also if John Main and David Ralph, both of Nairn, with similar qualifications and experience, have received similar instructions; and, if so, whether an oversight has occurred in employing men with masters' certificates as ordinary seamen?

Dr. MACNAMARA

These men are members of the Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve (Section Y), in which fishermen are voluntarily enrolled for service in the Trawler Section of the Royal Naval Reserve when required. Their services are now required, and they have been called up. It is not the practice to enter such men direct in the Trawler Section as skippers, as they must first be tried under service and war conditions, but their qualifications are noted at the time of entry, and if found suitable they receive early advancement.

Sir A. WILLIAMSON

Do I understand that these men have been employed by the Admiralty as skippers for the past two or three years, and are now reduced to the position of ordinary seamen without any fault of their own?

Dr. MACNAMARA

No; they were fishermen who were voluntarily enrolled in the Royal Naval Reserve.

Sir A. WILLIAMSON

As skippers?

Dr. MACNAMARA

Yes.

Mr. HARCOURT

Are not men with the experience stated in the question entitled to higher rank than that of ordinary seaman?

Dr. MACNAMARA

I understand my hon. and gallant Friend's point, and will put it to the naval authorities, but we have to have regard to the Service.