HC Deb 16 April 1918 vol 105 cc217-9
74. Sir R. COOPER

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food if he is aware that the price paid for cattle belonging to the Irish farmer is unrestricted and frequently exceeds 100s. a live cwt., whilst the price paid to the British farmer is restricted to 76s. a live cwt.; will he say on what grounds this financial advantage is accorded to Irish farmers; does the British taxpayer pay the difference; and what is the estimated cost to the Treasury for 1918 of this privilege?

Mr. CLYNES

The answer to this question was printed in Thursday's OFFICIAL REPORT.

Captain WRIGHT

Was not a guarantee given to the wholesale butchers, and has not something like £45,000 a week been paid under that guarantee?

Mr. CLYNES

A considerable sum has been paid. As to the exact sum per week I should require notice.

Sir F. HALL

Does not it amount to this, that the British farmer as a taxpayer is subsidising his Irish competitor?

Mr. CLYNES

I am not able to argue the matter, but I do not for a moment accept that construction.

79. Mr. HARRY HOPE

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food whether, in view of the fact that farmers have been asked to produce a maximum amount of beef, and that, owing to the unrestricted prices of cattle in Ireland, the usual number of two and three-year-old store cattle are not coming over from Ireland, he will fix similar prices for cattle in Ireland as in England and Scotland, so that farmers may obtain the raw material for beef production without which a famine in beef in the autumn and winter months is probable?

Mr. CLYNES

It is not practicable to fix maximum prices for live cattle in Ireland, owing to the difficulties involved in setting up a grading system in the markets in that country. Steps are, however, now-being taken to set up at the British ports to which Irish cattle are consigned the necessary machinery for their grading and allocation. When this system is fully operative, prices for fat cattle in Ireland should fall automatically to the level of the controlled prices in Great Britain, and the price of store cattle should be correspondingly reduced.

Mr. LOUGH

Does the hon. Gentleman mean in this answer that the prices fixed by the Food Controller for bacon and butter will not apply to England any more than to Ireland?

Mr. CLYNES

No; that is a different matter altogether untouched either by question or answer.

Mr. BUTCHER

To what Minister is the duty entrusted of fixing the price of cattle in Ireland?

Mr. CLYNES

The price of cattle is fixed by the Food Controller both in the case of Ireland and of this country.

Mr. DIXON

Would it not be far better to raise the price of English cattle as well as Irish? You are afraid to do it.

Mr. CLYNES

It would not be better for the great mass of consumers in this country.

Mr. DIXON

Is it not the general producers you have to consider rather than the Irish Members in this House?

Mr. CLYNES

We have taken action on the line which alone considers the mass of the consumers.

Mr. DILLON

Is it not more important to get the food and encourage production?

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