HC Deb 08 March 1915 vol 70 cc1150-3
91. Mr. RUPERT GWYNNE

asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office if, in view of the fact that the Government have now accepted the definition of a soldier's dependant as anyone who is found as a fact to have been dependent on him, he will see that the Army Order of 27th October last, which defines dependants as members of the soldier's family, is cancelled and that a fresh order is circulated in all Post Offices and other necessary places?

Mr. BAKER

The Army Order in question was amended on 26th February in this particular, and a fresh leaflet has been issued to all Post Offices and other necessary places.

Mr. GWYNNE

Will the hon. Gentleman see that it is circulated to all Post Offices'? To my certain knowledge it is not at all the Post Offices yet.

93. Mr. KEIR HARDIE

asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office what is the practice in cases in which a mother is granted allowances where she has more than one son at the front; is she entitled to a sum on behalf of each son equal to what his earnings contributed to her comfort before his enlistment; and is there any monetary limit which binds the mother who has three or four sons in the Army down to the allowance level of another who may have only one so serving?

Mr. BAKER

The mother is eligible for allowances for each son according to the support actually given before enlistment, but the total contribution from public funds is limited to the grant for a wife. When there are several sons they may increase the total by separate allotments.

Mr. RAFFAN

I understand that where two sons enlist, one can make an allotment to his mother and the other to his father. If more than two sons enlist, can the third make an allotment to a sister, and the fourth to a brother, and so on?

Mr. BAKER

I would like notice of that question.

94. Lord ROBERT CECIL

asked the Financial Secretary to the War Office what instructions have been issued to the pension officers as to the method of arriving at the separation allowances for dependants; whether any similar instruction have been communicated to the pen- sions committees; and whether those committees are informed whether their recommendations have been adopted or not, or any other guidance given to them in the performance of their duties?

Mr. BAKER

As regards the instructions issued to pension officers, I would refer the Noble Lord to the answer given to the hon. Member for Lanarkshire on the 10th February, of which I will send him a copy. I understand instructions to pension committees have been given, or will be given, by the Local Government Boards concerned. It is not the general practice to inform committees of individual decisions unless some point of principle is involved affecting their future proceedings.

Sir RYLAND ADKINS

Can the hon. Gentleman send me a copy of that?

Lord ROBERT CECIL

Is the hon. Gentleman aware that some people, at any rate, find it very difficult to discharge their duties in the absence of all indication as to what line they ought to take?

Mr. BAKER

The instructions to pension committees are issued by the Local Government Board. I understand arrangements have been made for more frequent conferences between pension officers and pension committees.

Lord ROBERT CECIL

Is it really impossible to communicate to pension committees the instructions given to pension officers?

Mr. BAKER

They are under separate authority, but I understand the instructions are similar if not identical.

Mr. OUTHWAITE

Have arrangements yet been made to reimburse these pension committees in the matter of granting all these allowances?

Mr. BAKER

I am afraid I did not hear my hon. Friend. Perhaps he will give notice.

Mr. OUTHWAITE

Pension committees are put to certain expense, and are they being reimbursed?

Mr. BAKER

That is a question that should be addressed to the Local Government Board.

Sir RYLAND ADKINS

Are these Departments of State watertight Departments?

Mr. BAKER

No, Sir, there is frequent communication.

Lord ROBERT CECIL

I give notice that I shall call attention to this, in order to obtain a fuller statement from the Departments concerned.