HC Deb 18 May 1914 vol 62 cc1624-7

Resolution reported,

"That it is expedient to authorise the issue out of the Consolidated Fund of such sums as may be necessary for payment of principal and interest of any money borrowed by the Welsh Commissioners in pursuance of any Act of the present Session to terminate the Establishment of the Church in Wales and Monmouthshire, and to make provision in respect of the temporalities thereof, and for other purposes in connection with the matters aforesaid."

Resolution read a second time.

Whereupon Mr. SPEAKER proceeded, pursuant to the Order of the House of the 12th May, to put forthwith the Question, "That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolution."

The House divided: Ayes, 298; Noes, 204.

Division No. 108.] AYES. [3.55 p.m.
Abraham, William (Dublin, Harbour) Brocklehurst, W. B. Dawes, James Arthur
Acland, Francis Dyke Brunner, John F. L. Delany, William
Adamson, William Bryce, J. Annan Denman, Hon. Richard Douglas
Agar-Robartes, Hon. T. C. R. Buckmaster, Sir Stanley O. Devlin, Joseph
Agnew, Sir George William Burns, Rt. Hon. John Dewar, Sir J. A.
Ainsworth, John Stirling Byles, Sir William Pollard Dickinson, Rt. Hon. Willoughby H.
Alden, Percy Carr-Gomm, H. W. Dillon, John
Allen, Arthur A. (Dumbartonshire) Cawley, Sir Frederick (Prestwich) Donelan, Captain A.
Allen, Rt. Hon. Charles P. (Stroud) Cawley, Harold T. (Lanes., Heywood) Doris, William
Arnold, Sydney Chancellor, Henry George Duffy, William J.
Baker, Harold T. (Accrington) Chapple, Dr. William Allen Duncan, J. Hastings (Yorks, Otley)
Baker, Joseph Allen (Finsbury, E.) Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston S. Edwards, Sir Francis (Radnor)
Balfour, Sir Robert (Lanark) Clancy, John Joseph Edwards, John Hugh (Glamorgan, Mid)
Baring, Sir Godfrey (Barnstaple) Clough, William Esmonde, Dr. John (Tipperary, N.)
Barlow, Sir John Emmott (Somerset) Clynes, John R. Esmonde, Sir Thomas (Wexford, N.)
Barran, Sir John N. (Hawick Burghs) Collins, Godfrey P. (Greenock) Essex, Sir Richard Walter
Barran, Rowland Hurst (Leeds, N.) Collins, Sir Stephen (Lambeth) Esslemont, George Birnie
Barton, William Condon, Thomas Joseph Falconer, James
Beale, Sir William Phipson Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. Farrell, James Patrick
Beauchamp, Sir Edward Cotton, William Francis Ffrench, Peter
Benn, W. W. (T. Hamlets, St. George) Craig, Herbert J. (Tynemouth) Field, William
Bethell, Sir J. H. Crooks, William Fitzgibbon, John
Birrell, Rt. Hon. Augustine Crumley, Patrick Flavin, Michael Joseph
Black, Arthur W. Cuilinan, John France, Gerald Ashburner
Boland, John Pius Davies, David (Montgomery Co.) Furness, Sir Stephen Wilson
Booth, Frederick Handel Davies, Ellis William (Eifion) Gelder, Sir W. A.
Bowerman, Charles W. Davies, Timothy (Lines., Louth) George, Rt. Hon. David Lloyd
Boyle, Daniel (Mayo, North) Davies, Sir W. Howell (Bristol, S.) Gill, A. H.
Brady, Patrick Joseph Davies, M. Vaughan-(Cardiganshire) Ginnell, L.
Gladstone, W. G. C. McKenna, Rt. Hon. Reginald Roberts, George H. (Norwich)
Glanville, Harold James M'Micklng, Major Gilbert Roberts, Sir J. H. (Denbighs)
Goldstone, Frank Manfield, Harry Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford).
Greenwood, Hamar (Sunderland) Marks, Sir George Croydon Robertson, John M. (Tyneside)
Greig, Colonel J. W. Marshall, Arthur Harold Robinson, Sidney
Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward Martin, Joseph Roch, Walter F. (Pembroke)
Griffith, Ellis Jones Mason, David M. (Coventry) Roche, Augustine (Louth)
Guest, Major Hon. C. H. C. (Pembroke) Meagher, Michael Roe, Sir Thomas
Guest, Hon. Frederick E. (Dorset, E.) Meehan, Francis E. (Leitrim, N.) Rowlands, James
Gwynn, Stephen Lucius (Galway) Meehan, Patrick J. (Queen's Co., Leix) Rowntree, Arnold
Hackett, John Middlebrook, William Runciman, Rt. Hon. Walter
Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose) Millar, James Duncan Russell, Rt. Hon. Thomas W.
Hardie, J. Keir Molloy, Michael Samuel, Rt. Hon. H. L. (Cleveland)
Harmsworth, Cecil (Luton, Beds) Molteno, Percy Alport Samuel, J. (Stockton-on-Tees)
Harmsworth, R. L. (Caithness-shire) Mond, Rt. Hon. Sir Alfred Scanlan, Thomas
Harvey, T. E. (Leeds, West) Money, L. G. Chiozza Scott, A. MacCallum (Glas., Bridgeton)
Haslam, Lewis (Monmouth) Montagu, Hon. E. S. Seely, Rt. Hon. Colonel J. E. B.
Havelock-Allan, Sir Henry Mooney, John J. Sheeny, David
Hayden, John Patrick Morgan, George Hay Sherwell, Arthur James
Hayward, Evan Morrell, Philip Shortt, Edward
Hazleton, Richard Morison, Hector Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir John Allsebrook.
Hemmerde, Edward George Morton, Alpheus Cleophas Smith, Albert (Lanes., Clitheroe)
Henderson, Arthur (Durham) Muldoon, John Smith, H. B. Lees (Northampton)
Henry, Sir Charles Murphy, Martin J. Smyth, Thomas F. (Leltrim, S.)
Herbert, General Sir Ivor (Mon., S.) Murray, Captain Hon. Arthur C. Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Higham, John Sharp Neilson, Francis Spicer, Rt. Hon. Sir Albert
Hinds, John Nicholson, Sir Charles N. (Doncaster) Strauss, Edward A. (Southwark, West)
Hodge, John Nolan, Joseph Sutherland, John E.
Hogge, James Myles Norman, Sir Henry Swann, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles E.
Holmes, Daniel Turner Norton, Captain Cecil W. Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe)
Holt, Richard Durning Nugent, Sir Walter Richard Taylor, Thomas (Bolton)
Hope, John Deans (Haddington) Nuttall, Harry Tennant, Harold John
Howard, Hon. Geoffrey O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) Thomas, James H.
Hudson, Walter O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.) Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton)
Hughes, Spencer Leigh O'Connor, T. p. (Liverpool) Toulmin, Sir George
Jardine, Sir J. (Roxburgh) O'Doherty, Philip Trevelyan, Charles Philips
John, Edward Thomas O'Donnell, Thomas Verney, Sir Harry
Johnson, W. O'Dowd, John Walters, Sir John Tudor
Jones, Rt. Hon. Sir D. Brynmor (Swansea) O'Kelly, Edward P. (Wicklow, W.) Walton, Sir Joseph
Jones, Edgar (Merthyr Tydvil) O'Malley, William Ward, John (Stoke-upon-Trent)
Jones, H. Haydn (Merioneth) O'Neill, Dr. Charles (Armagh, S.) Ward, W. Dudley (Southampton).
Jones, J. Towyn (Carmarthen, East) O'Shaughnessy, P. J. Wardle, George J.
Jones, Leif (Notts, Rushcliffe) O'Shea, James John Waring, Walter
Jones, William (Carnarvonshire) O'Sullivan, Timothy Warner, Sir Thomas Courtenay
Joyce, Michael Palmer, Godfrey Mark Wason, Rt. Hon. E. (Clackmannan)
Kellaway, Frederick George Parry, Thomas H. Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney)
Kelly, Edward Pearce, Robert (Staffs, Leek) Webb, H.
Kenyan, Barnet Pearce, William (Limehouse) White, J. Dundas (Glasgow, Tradeston)
Kilbride, Denis Pearson, Hon. Weetman H. M. White, Sir Luke (Yorks, E. R.)
King, Joseph Pease, Rt. Hon. Joseph A. (Rotherham) White, Patrick (Meath, North)
Lambert, Rt. Hon. G. (Devon, S. Molton) Phillpps, Col. Ivor (Southampton) Whittaker, Rt. Hon. Sir Thomas P.
Lambert, Richard (Wilts, Cricklade) Phillips, John (Longford, S.) Whyte, Alexander F. (Perth)
Lardner, James C. R. Pirie, Duncan V. Wiles, Thomas
Law, Hugh A. (Donegal, West) Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H. Wilkie, Alexander
Lawson, Sir W. (Cumb'rld, Cockerm'th) Pratt, J. W. Williams, Aneurin (Durham, N. W.)
Levy, Sir Maurice Price, C. E. (Edinburgh, Central) Williams, John (Glamorgan)
Lewis, Rt. Hon. John Herbert Price, Sir Robert J. (Norfolk, E.) Williams, Llewelyn (Carmarthen)
Lough, Rt. Hon. Thomas Priestley, Sir W. E. B. (Bradford, E.) Williams, Penry (Middlesbrough)
Low, Sir Frederick (Norwich) Primrose, Hon. Neil James Williamson, Sir Archibald
Lundon, Thomas Radford, George Heynes Wilson, Rt. Hon. J. W. (Worcs., N.)
Lyell, Charles Henry Raffan, Peter Wilson Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton)
Lynch, Arthur Alfred Raphael, Sir Herbert H. Winfrey, Sir Richard
Macdonald, J. Ramsay (Leicester) Rea, Rt. Hon. Russell (South Shields) Wing, Thomas Edward
Macdonald, J. M. (Falkirk Burghs) Rea, Walter Russell (Scarborough) Wood, Rt. Hon. T. McKinnon (Glasgow)
McGhee, Richard Reddy, Michael Yeo, Alfred William
Maclean, Donald Redmond, John E. (Waterford) Young, Samuel (Cavan, East)
Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J. Redmond, William (Clare, E.) Young, William (Perthshire, East)
MacNeill, J. G. Swift (Donegal, South) Redmond, William Archer (Tyrone, E.) Yoxall, Sir James Henry
Macpherson, James Ian Rendall, Athelstan
MacVeagh, Jeremiah Richardson, Albion (Peckham) TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr.
M'Callum, Sir John M. Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln) Illingworth and Mr. Guiland.
M'Curdy, Charles Albert
NOES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte Baring, Major Hon. Guy V. (Winchester) Bird, Alfred
Amery, L. C. M. S. Barnston, Harry Blair, Reginald
Anson, Rt. Hon. Sir William R. Barrie, H. T. Boscawen, Sir Arthur S. T. Griffith-
Anstruther-Gray, Major William Bathurst, Hon. A. B. (Glouc, E.) Boyton, James
Archer-Shee, Major M. Bathurst, Charles (Wilts, Wilton) Brassey, H. Leonard Campbell
Ashley, Wilfrid W. Bonn, Arthur Shirley (Plymouth) Bridgeman, William Clive
Baird, John Lawrence Benn, Ion Hamilton (Greenwich) Burdett-Coutts, W.
Baldwin, Stanley Bentinck, Lord H. Cavendish- Burgoyne, A. H.
Balfour, Rt. Hon. A. J. (City, London) Beresford, Lord C. Burn, Colonel C. R.
Banbnry, Sir Frederick George Bigland, Alfred Butcher, J. G.
Campbell, Captain Duncan F. (Ayr, N.) Harris, Henry Percy Pollock, Ernest Murray
Campion, W. R. Harrison-Broadley, H. B. Pryce-Jones, Colonel E.
Carlile, Sir Edward Hildred Helmsley, Viscount Quilter, Sir William Eley C.
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward H. Henderson, Major H. (Berks, Abingdon) Randles, Sir John S.
Cassel, Felix Henderson, Sir A. (St. Geo., Han. Sq.) Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel
Castlereagh, Viscount Herbert, Hon. A. (Somerset, S.) Rawson, Colonel R. H.
Cator, John Hewins, William Albert Samuel Rees, Sir J. D.
Cautley, H. S. Hoare, Samuel John Gurney Remnant, James Farquharson
Cave, George Hohier, G. F. Roberts, S. (Sheffield, Ecclesall)
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Hope, Harry (Bute) Ronaldshay, Earl of
Cecil, Lord Hugh (Oxford University) Hope, Major J. A. (Midlothian) Rothschild, Lionel de
Cecil, Lord R. (Herts, Hitchin) Houston, Robert Paterson Royds; Edmund
Chaloner, Colonel R. G. W. Hume-Williams, William Ellis Rutherford, Watson (L'pool, W. Derby)
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. J. A. (Worc'r.) Hunt, Rowland Samuel, Sir Harry (Norwood)
Chaplin, Rt. Hon. Henry Hunter, Sir C. R. Samuel, Samuel (Wandsworth)
Clay, Captain H. H. Spender Ingleby, Holcombe Sanderson, Lancelot
Clive, Captain Percy Archer Jardine, Ernest (Somerset, East) Sandys, G. J.
Coates, Major Sir Edward Feetham Jessel, Captain H. M. Sassoon, Sir Philip
Courthope, George Loyd Joynson-Hicks, William Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.)
Craig, Ernest (Cheshire, Crewe) Kerr-Smiley Peter Kerr Sharman-Crawford, Colonel R. G.
Craik, Sir Henry Kerry, Earl of Smith, Harold (Warrington)
Crichton-Stuart. Lord Ninian Keswick, Henry Spear, Sir John Ward
Croft, H. P. Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement Stanier, Beville
Currie, George W. Kyffin-Taylor. G. Stanley, Hon. Arthur (Ormskirk)
Dairymple, Viscount Lane-Fox, G. R. Stanley, Major Hon. G. F. (Preston)
Dalziel, Davison (Brixton) Larmor, Sir J. Starkey, John R.
Denison-Pender, J. C. Lawson, Hon. H. (T. H'mts, Mile End) Staveley-Hill. Henry
Denniss, E. R. B. Lee, Arthur H. Stewart, Gershom
Dixon, C. H. Lewisham, Viscount Strauss, Arthur (Paddington, North)
Duncannon, Viscount Lloyd, George Ambrose (Stafford, W.) Swift, Rlgby
Du Pre, W. Baring Lloyd, George Butler (Shrewsbury) Sykes, Alan John (Ches., Knutsford)
Eyres-Monsell. Bolton M. Locker-Lampson, G. (Salisbury) Thompson, Robert (Belfast, North)
Faber, George Denison (Clapham) Locker-Lampson, O. (Ramsey) Thomson, W. Mitchell-(Down, North)
Faber, Capt. W. V. (Hants, W.) Lockwood, Rt. Hon. Lt-Col. A. R. Tickler, T. G.
Falle, Bertram Godfray Lowe, Sir F. W. (Birm., Edgbaston) Touche, George Alexander
Fell, Arthur Lyttellon, Hon. J. C. Tryon, Captain George Clement
Finlay, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert MacCaw, Wm. J. MacGeagh Tullibardine, Marquess of
Fisher, Rt. Hon. W. Hayes Mackinder, H. J. Walrond, Hon. Lionel
Fitzroy, Hon. Edward A. Macmaster, Donald Warde, Colonel C. E. (Kent, Mid)
Flannery, Sir Fortescue M'Neiil, Ronald (Kent, St. Augustine's) Watson, Hon. W.
Foster, Philip Staveley Magnus, Sir Philip Weigall, Captain A. G.
Gardner, Ernest Malcolm, Ian Weston, Colonel J. W.
Gastrell, Major W. Houghton Middlemore, John Throgmorton Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset, W.)
Gibbs, G. A. Morrison-Bell, Major A. C. (Honiton) Willoughby, Major Hon. Claud
Glazebrook, Captain Philip K. Mount, William Arthur Wilson, A. Stanley (Yorks, E. R.)
Gordon, John (Londonderry, South) Neville, Reginald J. N. Wilson, Captain Leslie O. (Reading)
Gordon, Hon. John Edward (Brighton) Newdegate, F. A. Wilson, Maj. Sir M. (Bethnal Green, S. W.)
Grant, James Augustus Newman, John R. P. Winterton, Earl
Greene, Walter Raymond Nicholson, William G. (Petersfield) Wolmer, Viscount
Guinness, Hon. Rupert (Essex, S. E.) Nield, Herbert Wood, Hon. E. F. L. (Yorks, Ripon)
Gwynne, R. S. (Sussex, Eastbourne) Norton-Griffiths, J. Wood, John (Stalybridge)
Haddock, George Bahr O'Neill, Hon. A. E. B. (Antrim, Mid) Worthington-Evans, L.
Hall, D. B. (Isle of Wight) Orde-Powlett, Hon. W. G. A. Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart-
Hall, Frederick (Dulwich) Ormsby-Gore, Hon. William Yate, Colonel Charles Edward
Hall, Marshall (E. Toxteth) Paget, Almeric Hugh Younger Sir George
Hamersley, Alfred St. George Parker, Sir Gilbert (Gravesend)
Hamilton, C. G. C. (Ches., Altrincham) Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlington) TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Lord
Hamilton, Lord C. J. (Kensington, S.) Perkins, Walter Frank Edmund Talbot and Mr. Sanders.
Hardy, Rt. Hon. Laurence Pole-Carew, Sir R.