HC Deb 14 May 1914 vol 62 cc1273-4
27. Mr. GODFREY LOCKER-LAMPSON

asked the hon. Member for St. George's-in-the-East, as representing the Insurance Commissioners, whether a number of insurance committees are finding that the claims on their drug fund for chemists' accounts are growing in amount as compared with last year, whether such is the case with committees which had insufficient money to pay the chemists' accounts in full last year; and what the Government propose to do to meet these increasing deficiences?

Mr. WEDGWOOD BENN (Lord of the Treasury)

Until the total sums available to each insurance committee have been finally ascertained, and the accounts have been scrutinised, the assumptions underlying the question cannot be accepted. In a few cases the Insurance Commissioners have received information that the accounts for the quarter, which ended on the 11th of last month, are in excess of those for the same quarter of last year; but no comparison between the amounts can properly be made until the accounts for each period have been examined.

Mr. G. LOCKER-LAMPSON

Can the hon. Member say when this scrutiny will take place, and when we shall really know what deficiencies the chemists have to meet?

Mr. W. BENN

Does the hon. Gentleman refer to last year's accounts or this?

Mr. G. LOCKER-LAMPSON

Last year.

Mr. W. BENN

That is in progress.

Mr. F. HALL (Dulwich)

Can we not have a provisional figure?

Mr. W. BENN

We cannot get a provisional figure of the scrutiny. The scrutiny will determine it exactly.

Mr. F. HALL

Can we not have some record showing what is the deficiency?

Mr. W. BENN

The scrutiny is now proceeding and will show what the exact position is.

Mr. F. HALL

I am afraid the hon. Gentleman does not quite understand my question?

Mr. SPEAKER

The hon. Gentleman had better put it on the Paper.

28. Mr. GODFREYLOCKER-LAMPSON

asked whether the chemists under contract with the West Hartlepool Insurance Committee have had 30 per cent. deducted from their bills for last quarter, chiefly because the committee has insufficient funds to meet the bills; whether there is still outstanding and unpaid 10 per cent. of the chemists' bills for each quarter of last year; if the number of prescriptions dispensed in that area have increased from 1,800 in the quarter ending April, 1913, to 2,200 in the corresponding quarter this year, and the cost increased from about £525 to £754; and whether the chemists and the insurance committee have expressed their dissatisfaction to the Commissioners.

Mr. W. BENN

The Insurance Commissioners hope to be able to inform the committee referred to at an early date of the total sum available to them, from the drug fund for the past year. In the meantime, any payments made to the chemists are in the nature of advances only. For the reasons explained in my previous reply to the hon. Member, no comparison can properly be made at present between the accounts for last quarter and for the corresponding period of last year.

Mr. CASSEL

Is the hon. Gentleman aware that real hardship is being experienced by these chemists through their not being paid their bills?

Mr. W. BENN

That is a general statement. I cannot say whether it bears out the facts substantially.

Mr. WORTHINGTON EVANS

Is the hon. Gentleman aware that the Insurance Commissioners said two months ago that they hoped to settle it at an early date? Will he now define what is an early date?

Mr. W. BENN

The scrutiny is now proceeding.

Mr. FELL

The case of the chemists is very different from that of the doctors. The chemists are largely out of pocket.

Mr. SPEAKER

If hon. Members insist on asking supplementary questions, those, hon. Members whose questions are late on the Paper cannot expect to get their questions answered in the House.