HC Deb 04 May 1914 vol 62 c84

This is how it will work out as far as relief of rates is concerned: Total Giants, £9,200,000 for England and Wales in a full year; £1,265,000 for Scotland; £630,000 for Ireland. Out of that the direct relief of rates will be £0,845,000, and the new services £1,250,000. That is equal to a relief of 9d. in the £ on rates. Some districts will receive considerably more than 9d., and some perhaps substantially less. I have worked out roughly the amount of relief which will be received by certain districts upon the principle which we have in our mind.

St. Helens would receive just over 8d., and so would Dudley.

Portsmouth would receive about 9d.

Birmingham between 9d. and 10d.

Norwich would receive 1s. 1.4d. in the £, and

Walsall would receive just about the same amount. [An HON. MEMBER: "What about London?"] That is a very complicated account, and there are so many different services, and I failed to get London figures in time for to-day. [HON. MEMBERS: "What about the Scottish figures? "] I have no Scottish figures. [An HON. MEMBER: "What about Grimsby?"] I see my hon. Friend has an eye to business. No districts, however low-rated, will be worse, off. This year we propose that the Grants should commence on the 1st of December. That means a sum of £2,432,000 this year, but there is a condition which we submit the House of Commons ought to accept, and it is that before this Grant is distributed the legislative proposals of the Government with regard to the proposed basis of distribution, including valuation, shall have passed in time to enable the Exchequer to make the necessary arrangements for allocation in accordance with the principles I have laid down.