HC Deb 20 July 1914 vol 65 cc194-206
TABLE OF COURT FEES TO BE TAKEN BY CLERKS TO JUSTICES OFTHE PEACE.
£ s. d.
Indictable Offences:—
For the performance of all the several duties in every case committed for trial to the Assizes or Sessions, without regard to the number of prisoners included in the same charge 1 5 0
(This fee does not cover taking recognisances or giving notice to the accused and his sureties when admitted to bail; nor attending to take the deposition of a witness prevented by sickness or otherwise from appearing in Court; nor supplying a copy of depositions. In cases of dismissal the separate fees for information, etc., are chargeable.)
For the performance of all the several duties in respect of any indictable offence dealt with summarily without regard to the number of persons charged in each case, and whether there is a conviction or not 0 15 0
Elementary Education Acts:—
Proceedings under the Acts, in each case, including summons, order, and conviction 0 4 0
Distress warrants (if any) 0 1 0
Committal (if any) 0 1 0
For services not covered by the foregoing fees the following fees may be charged:—
£ s. d.
Appointment:—
Of parochial or other officers (except constables), to contain the names of all the persons appointed at the same time to the same office in the parish, hamlet, or place, including notice and oath when necessary 0 5 0
Of any constable (other than special) 0 1 0
Of valuer, arbitrator, etc. 1 10 0
Of special constables, if less than twenty-eight, for each person, to include notice, oath, and certificate 0 1 0
If more than twenty-eight are appointed on one occasion, for attending to summons, swear in, and make out appointments, and the business thereof, for each day 2 2 0
Army Act, 1881 (44 and 45 Vict, c. 58):—
Attestation of recruit (Section 80 (4) (d)) 0 1 0
Descriptive return in relation to deserter (Section 154 (6)) 0 2 0
Certificate of civil conviction or acquittal (Section 164) 0 3 0
Warrant to provide carriages (Section 112) 0 1 0
Attendance:—
On a justice, to view deserted premises in order to affix notice or to give possession thereof, to view a highway bridge, or nuisance, or to take an examination elsewhere than in Court 0 6 8
If required to go more than one mile from the place of holding Petty Sessions, for each mile after the first (one way) 0 1 0
Case for the opinion of Superior Court (20 and 21 Vict. c. 43, Section 3):—
Drawing case and copy, when the case does not exceed five folios of 90 words 0 10 0
For every additional folio be yond five 0 1 0
Taking recognisance as required by the Act 0 5 0
£ s. d.
Every enlargement or renewal thereof 0 2 6
For certificate of refusal of case 0 2 0
Certificate:—
Every certificate not otherwise charged 0 2 0
Certiorari:—
Return to and filing 0 13 4
Civil Debt (not including Rates):—
Summons and copy 0 1 6
Complaint 0 1 0
Order and copy 0 3 0
Oath (each witness) 0 1 0
Judgment summons and copy, including hearing 0 3 0
Warrant of distress 0 2 0
Commitment. (See Warrant.)
Complaint:—
Every complaint not otherwise charged 0 1 0
Conviction:—
Every conviction, including returning same to the Court (to include all persons convicted on the same charge, except in cases where all persons convicted on the same charge cannot be included in the same conviction) 0 2 6
Copy:—
Of depositions for prosecutor on the trial, per folio of 90 words 0 0 4
Of depositions for prisoner, under 11 and 12 Vict., c. 42, s. 27, per folio of 90 words, not exceeding 0 0
Of any other document, per folio of 72 words 0 0 4
Duplicate:—
For the duplicate of any document One half the orginal fee.
Examination. (See Information.)
Exhibit:—
Each document annexed to or referred to in any affidavit or declaration and marked 0 1 0
Explosives Act, 1875, (38 Vict., c. 17):—
Store licence (s. 15), not exceeding 0 5 0
Store licence, renewal (s. 18), not exceeding 0 1 0
Registering premises (s. 21), not exceeding 0 1 0
£ s. d.
Registering premises, renewal, not exceeding 0 1 0
Small firework factory (s. 49) licence, not exceeding 0 5 0
Small firework factory (s. 40) licence, renewal, not exceeding 0 1 0
Extradition Act, 1873 (36 and 37 Vict., c. 60., s. 5):—
For taking a deposition in pursuance of an order made by the Secretary of State 1 1 0
Each subsequent deposition taken in pursuance of the same order 0 5 0
Hearing:—
When no conviction or order is made 0 1 0
Information:—
Each information or examination (including oath) 0 1 0
Jury Lists:—
For forwarding lists with schedule to the clerk of the peace (25 and 26 Vict., c. 107, s. 9) 0 2 6
Revision fee to be fixed by the local authority subject to approval of Secretary of State.
Licences:—
For every licence, consent, or authority not otherwise provided for, to include registration when necessary 0 5 0
Billiard licence (to include fee of 1s. to constable), 8 and 9 Vict., c. 109., s. 10 1 0 0
Theatre licence (6 and 7 Vict., c. 68., s. 6), for each month for which theatre is open, not exceeding 1 0 0
Registration of music and dancing licence (53 and 54 Vict., c. 59., s. 51) 1 0 0
List:—
Every list not otherwise provided for which it is the duty of the clerk to the justices to make or transmit 0 2 6
Notice:—
Every notice not otherwise provided for 0 1 0
Oath:—
Every oath, affirmation, or solemn declartion not otherwise charged 0 1 0
(Vide note at end of table.)
£ s. d.
Order:—
Order, certificate, or record of proceedings in case of deserted premises, or relating to a highway, bridge, or nuisance, or for protecting separate property of a married woman 0 5 0
Order as to the settlement, removal, or maintenance of a pauper or lunatic, the affiliation of a bastard, or in case of fraudulent removal of goods 0 5 0
Order for payment of allowance to special constables (one order to include all the constables appointed) 0 2 0
Every order or minute thereof not otherwise charged 0 3 0
Precept:—
Every precept 0 1 6
Rate:—
Amending a rate, each name 0 1 0
Taxing costs and order thereon 0 3 0
Order on appeal 0 5 0
Order for adjourning appeal, if required 0 1 0
Allowance of rate 0 2 0
Enforcement of any poor rate, including the complaint, summons, duplicate, or copy, and the hearing, but not not to include oaths when administered, nor the cost of a warrant if issued 0 2 0
Warrant of distress 0 2 0
Commitment 0 2 0
Enforcement of any general district or other rate, including the complaint, summons, duplicate, or copy, and the hearing, but not to include oaths when administered, nor the cost of a warrant if issued 0 2 0
Order 0 2 0
Judgment summons (including hearing) 0 2 6
Warrant of distress 0 2 0
Commitment 0 2 0
If more than one rate is included in the summons, for each rate after the first 0 0 6
When the form of warrant provided for by 12 and 13 Viet. c. 14. s. 3 is used, for each name inserted in the Schedule over and above eight 0 0 3
£ s. d.
Recognizance:—
Every recognizance 0 2 6
Notice to each person bound 0 0 6
Summons:—
Every summons (to include all the names included in the same charge or intended to be summoned as witnesses in the same case for the prosecution or defence if applied for at the same time) 0 1 0
Every copy 0 0 6
Backing summons for service from outside jurisdiction 0 1 0
Warrant:—
Every warrant of distress when not otherwise provided for 0 2 0
To commit after conviction in in which the conviction is set forth 0 2 0
Every other warrant 0 1 0
Return to warrant or endorsing warrant, including oath 0 1 0
Backing warrant for execution from outside jurisdiction 0 1 0

Note.—Nothing herein contained shall be construed to authorise the demand of any reswearing any person to any examination, or for any oath, affirmation, or declaration to obtain pay, pension, or allowance from Government or friendly society, or charitable fund, or for any declaration relating to lost duplicates of articles pledged where the amount advanced on such articles does not exceed 20s., or in any other case where an Act of Parliament directs that no fee shall be taken.

Amendment made: After the word "Schedule" ["First Schedule"] insert the words "Part I."

Mr. NIELD

I beg to move, in paragraph "Indictable offences," after the word "duties" ["For the performance of all the several duties in respect of any indictable offence"], to insert the words "including commitment."

This and other Amendments are put down on expert advice and at the request of the clerks of the peace of this country in order that there may be one fee, and only one fee, and I hope that the House will accept them.

Amendment agreed to.

Mr. NIELD

I beg to move, after the list of fees relating to the Elementary Education Act, to insert,

"Aliens Act, 1905:—
For the Performance of all the several duties in connection with the recommendation of a person for deportation 0 5 0"
Mr. BIGLAND

I beg to second the Amendment.

Mr. McKENNA

I cannot accept that.

Mr. NIELD

Why not?

Mr. McKENNA

There is no such procedure as the hon. Gentleman contemplates by this language. The deportation and expulsion of an alien is a magisterial act after the trial.

Mr. NIELD

It is a recommendation of a person for deportation, and there are certain duties which the clerks and the magistrates have to perform.

Mr. McKENNA

The hon. Gentleman does not suggest by whom the fees should be paid?

Mr. NIELD

By the person convicted.

Question, "That those words be there added," put, and negatived.

Mr. NIELD

I beg to move to add to the list of fees for "Attendance," Expenses actually incurred for travelling (such amount not to be payable to the authority by whom the salary of the clerk to the justices is paid.)

Mr. McKENNA

This is a table of fees and not expenses, and I cannot accept it.

Mr. NIELD

Is not this reducing the Schedule to an absurdity? You are directed to levy certain fees, and included in these fees are necessary expenses of persons who are called upon to execute the orders of the Court. If they are not included in "fees," then that word should be enlarged to include them. It is obviously a matter on which the Court is called upon to exercise jurisdiction, and I hope the right hon. Gentleman will see the necessity of making the Schedule complete by accepting the Amendment.

Question, "That those words be there added to the Bill," put, and negatived.

Mr. KING

I beg to move to add to the list of fees for "Case for the opinion of Superior Court,"

"Certificate of officer of Court to whom periodical payments of money are to Be made 0 1 0"

This is rendered necessary by the provisions of the Affiliation Orders Bill which has passed through all its stages in this House and is very nearly through in another place. I hope the right hon. Gentleman will accept it.

Mr. WEDGWOOD

I beg to second the Amendment.

Mr. McKENNA

I cannot accept this Amendment because it does not properly come within the Schedule, which deals only with fees to be taken by the justices' clerk, and does not refer to officers of the Court who may or may not be justices' clerks. Neither could I accept it on its merits.

Mr. KING

I beg to withdraw the Amendment.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

Mr. NIELD

I beg to move, on page 28, line 41, to leave out the words "where payable to the clerk of the peace," and to insert instead thereof the words "(to be paid to the clerk of the peace) such fee as is authorised by the table of fees payable to the clerk of the peace.

In cases where a fee has not been authorised as aforesaid 0 1 0"

I hope the Government will accept this Amendment.

Sir WILLIAM BULL

I beg to second the Amendment.

Mr. McKENNA

The fee referred to by the hon. and learned Gentleman is one to which there is no strong objection so far as I am concerned.

Mr. BOOTH

On a point of Order. There are no such words in my copy of the Bill. Line 41, on page 28, simply says "charge cannot be included in the same conviction, 2s. 6d."

Mr. McKENNA

That is so. The fee was omitted in Committee, as the hon. and learned Gentleman will remember.

Mr. NIELD

The right hon. Gentleman will remember that I handed to him the recommendations not only of the clerks of the peace, but of the county of Middlesex, and he assured me in Committee that he had already received them by post, and he promised between the Committee stage and the Report stage that he would give very careful consideration to them, and that he would endeavour so far as possible to incorporate them. I am afraid there has been an error in the printing as to the place where the Amendment should come in. If he has no objection to the fee, he must obviously know where it ought to come in, and I hope he will accept the Amendment.

Mr. SPEAKER

It is quite clear that it cannot come in here.

Mr. NIELD

I will withdraw the Amendment for the present.

Amendment made: Leave out the words, "Billiard licence (to include fee of 1s. to constable), 8 & 9 Vict. c. 109. s. 10 1 0 0
Theatre licence (6 & 7 Vict. c. 68. s. 6), for each month for which theatre is open, not exceeding 1 0 0
Registration of music and dancing licence (53 & 54 Vict. c. 59. s. 51) 1 0 0"

[Mr. McKenna.]

Mr. NIELD

I beg to move, at the end of the paragraph "Licences," to insert, "Licensing (Consolidation) Act, 1910:—

On the deposit of plans of alterations under Section 71 (2) 0 5 0"

This is a matter of some substance, because when applicants desire to alter the licensed premises they produce to the Petty Sessional bench a plan of the proposed alterations. If those plans are to be approved, questions of extension may arise and the plans have to be very carefully examined at the Petty Sessions. The Home Secretary cannot object to the person in possession of the tenancy, generally the brewer, who applies for the alterations being charged so modest a sum as 5s. for the examination of the plans. There is every reason requiring that fee to be authorised. It would be no hardship on persons who come forward to ask for the alterations, who will be well able to pay this charge to remunerate the clerk for the examination of the plans. Very often they have to be examined by an expert.

Captain WILSON

I beg to second the Amendment.

Mr. McKENNA

I regret that I cannot agree to accept this. All fees for work under the Licensing Act ought to be included in that Act. We ought not to select particular items out of various Acts

of Parliament and put them under this Bill.

Question put, "That those words be there added to the Bill."

The House divided: Ayes, 66; Noes, 204.

Division No. 188.] AYES. [10.55 p.m.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte Fell, Arthur Rutherford, Watson (L'pool, W. Derby)
Archer-Shee, Major Martin Gilmour, Captain John Sanders, Robert Arthur
Baird, J. L. Glazebrook, Captain Philip K. Smith, Harold (Warrington)
Banbury, Sir Frederick George Hall, D. B. (Isle of Wight) Spear, Sir John Ward
Barnston, Harry Hamilton, C. G. C. (Ches., Altrincham) Stanley, Hon. G. F. (Preston)
Barrie, H. T. Hibbert, Sir Henry F. Starkey, John Ralph
Bathurst, C. (Wilts, Wilton) Hills, John Waller Steel-Maitland, A. D.
Bentinck, Lord H. Cavendish- Hogge, James Myles Stewart, Gershom
Bigland, Alfred Hope, Harry (Bute) Strauss, Arthur (Paddington, North)
Bird, A. Hope, Major J. A. (Midlothian) Talbot, Lord Edmund
Boyton, James Horner, Andrew Long Watson, Hon. W.
Bridgeman, William Clive Lane-Fox, G. R. Weigall, Captain A. G.
Burn, Colonel C. R. Lloyd, George Butler (Shrewsbury) Weston, Colonel J. W.
Carlile, Sir Edward Hildred Locker-Lampson, G. (Salisbury) Wheler, Granville C. H.
Cassel, Felix Locker-Lampson, O. (Ramsey) White, Major G. D. (Lancs., Southport)
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Lyttelton, Hon. J. C. Wilson, Captain Leslie O. (Reading)
Cecil, Lord R. (Herts, Hitchin) M'Calmont, Major Robert C. A. Wood, Hon. E. F. L. (Yorks, Ripon)
Chaloner, Colonel R. G. W. Malcolm, Ian Wood, John (Stalybridge)
Clyde, J. Avon Newton, Harry Kottingham Worthington Evans, L.
Craig, Norman (Kent, Thanet) Parker, Sir Gilbert (Gravesend) Yate, Colonel C E.
Dickson, Rt. Hon. C. Scott Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlington)
Duke, Henry Edward Pryce-Jones, Colonel E. TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr.
Eyres-Monsell, Bolton M. Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel Nield and Sir W. Bull.
NOES.
Abraham, William (Dublin, Harbour) Dillon, John Jones, H. Haydn (Merioneth)
Acland, Francis Dyke Donelan, Captain A. Jones, J. Towyn (Carmarthen, East)
Adkins, Sir W. Ryland D. Doris, William Jones, Leif (Notts, Rushcliffe)
Agar-Robartes, Hon. T. C. R. Duffy, William J. Joyce, Michael
Ainsworth, John Stirling Duncan, C. (Barrow-in-Furness) Kelly, Edward
Allen, Arthur A. (Dumbartonshire) Edwards, John Hugh (Glamorgan, Mid) Kilbride, Denis
Armitage, Robert Elverston, Sir Harold King, J.
Asquith, Rt. Hon. Herbert Henry Esmonde, Dr. John (Tipperary, N.) Lambert, Richard (Wilts, Cricklade)
Baker, Joseph Allen (Finsbury, E.) Esmonde, Sir Thomas (Wexford, N.) Levy, Sir Maurice
Barlow, Sir John Emmott (Somerset) Falconer, James Lewis, Rt. Hon. John Herbert
Barran, Sir John N. (Hawick Burghs) Farrell, James Patrick Low, Sir Frederick (Norwich)
Barran, Rowland Hurst (Leeds, N.) Fenwick, Rt. Hon. Charles Lundon, Thomas
Beauchamp, Sir Edward Ffrench, Peter Lynch, Arthur Alfred
Benn, W. W. (T. Hamlets, St. George) Field, William Macdonald, J. Ramsay (Leicester)
Birrell, Rt. Hon. Augustine Fiennes, Hon. Eustace Edward Macdonald, J. M. (Falkirk Burghs)
Black, Arthur W. Fitzgibbon, John Maclean, Donald
Boland, John Plus Flavin, Michael Joseph Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J.
Booth, Frederick Handel Furness, Sir Stephen Wilson MacNeill, J. G. Swift (Donegal, South)
Bowerman, Charles W. Gladstone, W. G. C. MacVeagh, Jeremiah
Boyle, Daniel (Mayo, North) Glanville, Harold James McKenna, Rt. Hon. Reginald
Brady, Patrick Joseph Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford Markham, Sir Arthur Basil
Brunner, John F. L. Goldstone, Frank Marks, Sir George Croydon
Bryce, J. Annan Greig, Colonel J. W. Marshall, Arthur Harold
Burt, Rt. Hon. Thomas Griffith, Rt. Hon. Ellis Jones Meagher, Michael
Byles, Sir William Pollard Guest, Hon. Frederick E. (Dorset, E.) Meehan, Francis E. (Leitrim, N.)
Cawley, H. T. (Lancs., Heywood) Gulland, John William Meehan, Patrick J. (Queen's Co., Leix)
Chapple, Dr. William Allen Gwynn, Stephen Lucius (Galway) Millar, James Duncan
Clancy, John Joseph Hackett, John Molloy, Michael
Clough, William Hancock, John George Molteno, Percy Alport
Clynes, John R. Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose) Montagu, Hon. E. S.
Collins, Sir Stephen (Lambeth) Harmsworth, Cecil (Luton, Beds) Morrell, Philip
Compton-Rickett, Rt. Hon. Sir J. Harvey, A. G. C. (Rochdale) Morison, Hector
Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. Harvew, T. E. (Leeds, West) Munro, Rt. Hon. Robert
Cowan, W H. Haslam, Lewis (Monmouth) Murphy, Martin J.
Crooks, William Hayden, John Patrick Nicholson, Sir Charles N. (Doncaster)
Crumley, Patrick Helme, Sir Norval Watson Nolan, Joseph
Cullinan, John Henry, Sir Charles Nugent, Sir Walter Richard
Dalziel, Rt. Hon. Sir J. H. (Kirkcaldy) Higham, John Sharp O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny)
Davies, David (Montgomery Co.) Hinds, John O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.)
Davies, Ellis William (Eifion) Hodge, John O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool)
Davies, Timothy (Lines., Louth) Holt, Richard Durning O Doherty, Philip
Davies, Sir W. Howell (Bristol, S.) Howard, Hon. Geoffrey O'Donnell, Thomas
Dawes, James Arthur Hudson, Walter O'Dowd, John
Delany, William Hughes, Spencer Leigh O'Malley. William
Devlin, Joseph Illingworth, Percy H. O'Neill, Dr. Charles (Armagh, S.)
Dickinson, Rt. Hon. Willoughby H. Jones, Edgar (Merthyr Tydvil) O'Shaughnessy, P. J.
O'Sullivan, Timothy Robertson, John M. (Tyneside) Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton)
Palmer, Godfrey Mark Robinson, Sidney Toulmin, Sir George
Parker, James (Halifax) Roch, Walter F. (Pembroke) Verney, Sir Harry
Parry, Thomas H. Roche, Augustine (Louth) Wason, Rt. Hon. E. (Clackmannan)
Pease, Rt. Hon. Joseph A. (Rotherham) Roe, Sir Thomas Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney)
Phillips, John (Longford, S.) Rowlands, James Watt, Henry Anderson
Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H. Russell, Rt. Hon. Thomas W. Wedgwood, Josiah C.
Pratt, J. W. Samuel, Rt. Hon. H. L. (Cleveland) White, J. Dundas (Glas., Tradeston)
Price, Sir R. J. (Norfolk, E.) Samuel, J. (Stockton-on-Tees) White, Patrick (Meath, North)
Priestley, Sir Arthur (Grantham) Scanlan, Thomas Wiles, Thomas
Primrose, Hon. Neil James Scott, A. MacCallum (Glas., Bridgeton) Wilkie, Alexander
Pringle, William M. R. Sheehy, David Williams, Aneurin (Durham, N. W.)
Radford, George Heynes Sherwell, Arthur James Williams, Penry (Middlesbrough)
Rea, Rt. Hon. Russell (South Shields) Shortt, Edward Wilson, Rt. Hon. J. W. (Worcs., N. W.)
Rea, Walter Russell (Scarborough) Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir John Allsebrook Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton)
Reddy, Michael Smith, Albert (Lancs., Clitheroe) Wing, Thomas Edward
Redmond, John E. (Waterford) Smyth, Thomas F. (Leitrim, S.) Yeo, Alfred William
Redmond, William (Clare, E.) Spicer, Rt. Hon. Sir Albert Younger, Sir George
Redmond, William Archer (Tyrone, E.) Sutton, John E. Yoxall, Sir James Henry
Rendall, Athelstan Taylor, John W. (Durham)
Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln) Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe) TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Mr.
Roberts, George H. (Norwich) Taylor, Thomas (Bolton) William Jones and Mr. H. Webb.
Roberts, Sir J. H. (Denbighs) Thomas, James Henry

Bill read a second time, and committed to a Committee of the Whole House for to-morrow (Tuesday).

Mr. STEEL-MAITLAND

I beg to move, at the end of the paragraph headed "Licences" to add,

"Cinematograph licence (9 Edw. 7, c. 30, s. 2 (5) for each month during which the licence is granted, not exceeding 1 0 0"
Mr. McKENNA

The hon. Member will see that I have an Amendment—[HON. MEMBERS: "Speak up!"]—on the Paper which includes in Part II. of the Schedule matters to which Part I. does not apply, and included in that is the cinematograph business.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

Mr. KING

I beg to move, in the paragraph "Order," to leave out the words "the affiliation of a bastard." The object of this Amendment is that the fees in connection with affiliation orders should be reduced in certain circumstances.

Mr. McKENNA

I will accept the Amendment.

Amendment agreed to.

Further Amendments made: At the end of the paragraph "Order" insert,

"Order as to the affiliation of of a bastard, or under the Summary Jurisdiction (Married Women) Act, 1895 0 2 0
Variation, revocation, or revival of order 0 1 0"

—[Mr. King.]

Mr. NIELD

I beg to move, in the paragraph headed "Rating" to leave out all words following "allowance of rate 2s." down to, and including "warrant of distress 2s.," and to insert instead thereof:

"Enforcement of any poor, general district, or other rate, to include complaint, summons, and all other proceedings for which separate fees are not provided here under 0 2 0
Order 0 2 0
Warrant of distress 0 2 0
Judgment summons (including hearing) 0 2 6
Summons (if any) in poor rate cases to show cause why defaulter should not be committed 0 2 0"
I hope that the Home Secretary has satisfied himself that this arrangement is far better than that which is suggested in the Schedule. I hope that this is a case in which he has profited by the documents which were given him to study, and that he will accept this moderate Amendment.

Mr. McKENNA

I will accept the Amendment.

Mr. JONATHAN SAMUEL

Will this mean any increase in the fees?

Mr. NIELD

In some cases it will mean a reduction.

Amendment agreed to.

Further Amendments made: In paragraph "Warrant," after the word "conviction" ["after conviction"], to insert the words "or order."

After the word "conviction" ["the conviction is"], to insert the words "or order."—[Mr. Nield.]

Mr. McKENNA

I beg to move, at the end of the First Schedule, to add—

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