§ Postponed proceeding on Question, That it be an Instruction to the Committee that they have power to divide the Bill into two Bills, the first dealing with the constitution and powers of the Irish Parliament, and the second dealing with the alteration in the constitution of the Parliament of the United Kingdom."—[Mr. James Hope.]
§ Question again proposed. Debate resumed.
§ Mr. RONALD M'NEILLAt the time when the business was interrupted I was expressing the opinion that any doubts which may have been felt on this side of 1610 the House as to the practicability of the Instruction moved by my hon. Friend for Central Sheffield (Mr. J. Hope) had been entirely removed by the very short and perfunctory reply made by the Prime Minister. The right hon. Gentleman contented himself by pointing out that this Instruction was moved when the Bill was before the House last year, and he said that on that occasion it had been rejected by a considerably majority. The Prime Minister has frequently told us in this House and elsewhere that the whole purpose of the procedure of the Parliament Act, by which Bills brought before this House in the Second and Third Sessions, is intended to enable the House and the country to revise the proposals of the Government, and if revision means anything it must mean the power of going over old grounds and reconsidering them and coming to a conclusion as to whether or not an argument which prevailed with the House last year must necessarily prevail again. Under these circumstances, surely, it is open to the House to consider the whole matter de novo. It is true that this Instruction did not commend itself to the House a year ago, but on reconsideration of the whole matter arguments might be adduced for and against, and the House might be prepared to come to a different conclusion. It is hardly treating the House quite fairly or respectfully for the Prime Minister to brush aside the proposals made by my hon. Friend merely on the ground that it had been rejected last year.
The Prime Minister adduced what he thought a crushing and conclusive reply when he pointed out that under the precedure adopted this Instruction could not take effect because there would be no effective Committee stage, and there could be no discussion in Committee of the various details of the two parts into which my hon. Friend's motion would divide the whole Bill. It is quite true there is to be no effective discussion in Committee, but we have been given to understand that there is to be a new fangled stage in the proceedings on these Bills called the Suggestion stage, and it has been held out by the Prime Minister and other Members of the Cabinet that the Suggestion stage, to all intents and purposes, is to take the place of the Committee stage, and that if there is any doubt about the details of the Bill as passed last year, although we are precluded from proposing Amendments, we are to be given the opportunity of bringing those proposals forward again in 1611 another form, namely, the form of suggestion which the House of Lords might adopt, and then they would be embodied in the Bill just as if they had been passed in the Committee stage under the old system. It has repeatedly been held out as a safeguard, or at all events as a recommendation of the procedure which the Government have forced upon the House, that under that Suggestion stage we should be in just as good a position as we should be in the Committee stage. Supposing that statement is taken at the face value put upon it by the Government, surely it does become quite as effective for us to divide this Bill into two parts, as proposed by my hon. Friend, with a view to the discussion of the suggestions bearing upon the two different portions of the Bill either before or after the Third Reading. I think the Prime Minister told us that it was to come after the Third Reading, but that is a matter of detail. It is, however, a very important thing that if these suggestions are to have any real practical effect they should be discussed as fully and openly as possible.
§ Mr. SPEAKER:What has that got to do with this discussion? I fail to see any relevance in the hon. Member's arguments.
§ Mr. R. M'NEILL:My argument is this: When we were discussing this Bill last year we had a Committee stage in which the details might be discussed and Amendments proposed. We know that under the procedure which governed the proceedings of the House last Session very large portions of the details of the Bill were not allowed to be discussed at all. My argument is that under the Suggestion stage which this year is to take its place we shall very likely find ourselves in the same position. The Prime Minister has intimated in the House that we are not to have a free and open discussion, and that only such suggestions will be allowed to be discussed as the Government or the Prime Minister himself choose to allot to the House. Therefore, it is important that the division made by this Amendment as between the different parts of the Bill should be very fully considered, and that we should not find ourselves, for example, being allowed to discuss a number of suggestions bearing upon the constitution of the Irish Parliament and possibly be precluded altogether by the discriminating action of the Government from discussing any proposals bearing explicitly or mainly 1612 upon the constitution, not of the Irish Parliament, but of this House.
§ Mr. SPEAKER:That might happen whether we divide the Bill or not, and I cannot see the relevancy of that argument to the proposal to divide the Bill into two parts.
§ Mr. R. M'NEILL:If we have the Bill divided into two portions we shall be much more likely under the fair treatment we shall receive from the Government to have a fair amount of time allotted to the discussion of these matters which bear more particularly on the constitution of this House, and not so mach upon the constitution of the Irish Parliament. Therefore, from the point of view of getting a fair discussion covering the whole field of the Bill in its two main divisions as applied to Ireland and Great Britain, the Suggestion stage would be more effective if the Bill were divided into two portions. There is this difference. We know that in the discussion of the details of the Bill the decision of the House is mainly governed by the views of hon. Gentlemen below the Gangway. I am not complaining of that at all at the present moment. It is quite natural that those hon. Members should take a very active and lively interest in all the details of the Bill, but it is quite clear that the interest of hon. Gentlemen below the Gangway is much more exclusively devoted to those portions of the Bill which are strictly connected with the question of Home Rule; in other words, those portions of the Bill which more affect the future government of Ireland. The interest of hon. Gentlemen below the Gangway, on the other hand, is relatively mild when directed to the portions of the Bill which concern not Ireland but Great Britain. Therefore, when matters mainly interested from the British point of view, as distinguished from the Irish point of view, come up for discussion they are much more likely to get a free and independent opinion from those chiefly concerned unhampered by the strong views, or possibly the prejudices, of hon. Gentlemen below the Gangway. It is obviously in the interests of Great Britain and the representatives of Great Britain that those portions of the Bill should be discussed unhampered by that weight of opinion below the Gangway. The Prime Minister said that so far as he can see two-thirds of the present Bill would not fall within either of the two Bills into which we propose to divide it. I do not profess to have examined the Bill in the 1613 light of the words of the right hon. Gentleman spoken an hour or two ago, but I have a fair recollection of the provisions of the Bill, and I must say that it would have helped me very much to judge as to the justice of the Prime Minister's contention if he had thought fit to point to some examples of such portions of the Bill as would not fall into one or other of the two divisions. I am entirely sceptical as to there being any portion of the Bill which would not fall into one or other of those two divisions.
What was only the example which the right hon. Gentleman gave? He took the position of the Lord Lieutenant, and he said that the position of the Lord Lieutenant would have nothing to do either with the constitutional powers of the Irish Parliament, or the alteration of the Constitution of Great Britain. I respectfully venture so far to contest the validity of that proposition as to say that on the contrary it would fall into both portions of the Bill. The powers, the position, and the constitutional status of the Lord Lieutenant affect Great Britain, in so far as he is a Member of the Government, and usually of the Cabinet of this country; but, on the other hand, so far as he is the Viceroy and exercises the Royal prerogative under this Bill in Ireland, his powers and status are obviously part and parcel of the powers and constitution of the Irish Parliament. There is another very strong reason for the Instruction. In the Debates which have taken place upon this lengthy controversy, the Prime Minister has always based himself, almost exclusively, upon the proposition that because during a number of General Elections there has been a consistent demand from the Irish Members for what is called Home Rule; the constitutional doctrine requires a concession to that demand. If that argument is sound, surely it is equally true that there has been no such demand from England or from Great Britain for a radical alteration of their Constitution. Therefore, if it is right that the Irish demand should have exclusive attention, you should give the same amount of attention to the constitutional demand of Great Britain so far as Great Britain is affected by the provisions of this Bill, and it is clear you can only do that if you divide the Bill into two portions, so that the Irish Constitution on the one hand, and the English Constitution on the other can receive adequate and full consideration and discussion by those representatives who particularly speak in the name 1614 of those two different portions of the United Kingdom.
There is another reason which I think is equally strong, and which has already been touched upon by one of my hon. Friends. We have been told time after time that this Bill, after all, is only the foundation of a large system of federation, and that we are to have Bills dealing with local government, or Home Rule for Scotland and Wales, and one Cabinet Minister, speaking I suppose with responsible authority, has propounded the proposition that the number of Bills may be much more numerous than those confined to Ireland, Wales, Scotland, and England. If you are to have a great number of different Bills of this sort, there is only one part of the United Kingdom which is really fundamentally concerned with all of them, and that is England. In a Home Rule Bill for Ireland, of course, Ireland and Great Britain are concerned. Scotland as a separate entity is not specially concerned with the question of Home Rule for Ireland. Similarly, if we ever come to discuss the question of Home Rule for Scotland, England would be very vitally concerned with them all. It therefore appears to me to be very desirable that at the outset, when laying the foundations which may be coming before us in the future dealing with the question from a Federal standpoint. England is the one partner in the confederation which will be concerned with them all. It therefore appears to me to be very desirable that at the outset, when laying the foundations for this scheme, the position which Great Britain, and especially England, is to hold in relation to these other bodies should be constantly kept in view, independent of the special provisions of the Bill we may have under discussion. It is quite clear that cannot be done if the Bill as it effects England is to be lumped in with the Constitution of Ireland. You can only do that by treating England as a separate entity from the, very first.
You must lay down general lines and principles with regard to the position which England is to hold, not merely in relation to Ireland under this Bill, but with a view to proposals which may come hereafter for giving similar Grants to. other parts of the United Kingdom. Therefore, if we are really to have any scheme of federation such as the Government and their supporters have constantly held before us, it does surely seem essential, if we are not in the end to arrive 1615 at an incoherent and chaotic scheme of government of the United Kingdom, that we should begin by laying the foundations and making it clear as to the position England is to hold in relation to them all. Then I come to a consideration which weighs to a certain extent with me in the discussion of this particular proposal. We have very often been told by hon. Members below the Gangway that when we discuss the question of Home Rule for Ireland religious intolerance and animosity enter very largely into our views. Speaking for myself, I entirely repudiate the notion that I have ever been influenced by religious animosity in this matter, and I think it has been very much exaggerated; but, at all events, those parts of the Bill which refer, not to the Irish Constitution, but to the changes which will necessarily be effected in the government of Great Britain, could from first to last be discussed in a spirit of complete detachment from any sort of religious animosity. It is very desirable if there is any truth whatever in the complaints which have been made by some of our opponents on this score, that we should get a discussion of the British side of this question in a more detached and a rarer atmosphere removed altogether from passions of that sort.
The whole controversy, as contrasted with the controversy of twenty years ago, has proceeded far too exclusively on the questions which relate to Ireland and especially to Ulster. Of course I am very largely interested in the question of Ulster, and I should be the last to maintain that that is not almost a governing consideration. But it is very desirable that other aspects of the question should not be lost sight of, and it is very deplorable that, during the discussion which has proceeded since this Bill was introduced, the people of this country have been far too inclined to imagine that the question before the House of Commons was one in which they had only a sympathetic interest so far as it affected their fellow countrymen across the Channel. They did not regard it as a matter which vitally affected themselves. We have been told that we are to have opportunities of reconsideration and delay, and, therefore, it is not fair that when we bring forward proposals, these questions should be treated as if they had already been settled. It is surely very important that the English people should realise how 1616 far this great question affects not merely Ulster and Ireland, but themselves, their interests, their financial interests, and their constitutional interests, and, to give an opportunity for the discussion of those interests, there is no way so opportune as would be provided by the division of the Bill in the manner we now propose. If that were done, we should have all English constitutional questions, questions of defence, questions of finance, and those other matters which entered very much more largely into the discussions of 1893 and 1886, we should have them discussed in the detached atmosphere to which I have referred, and we should have a better opportunity of elucidating how far they affect England, and England alone. At the present time we are under this great difficulty party discipline is very strong. We have a weight of Irish opinion pressing for Home Rule, and there are numbers of people in this country who, in considering this matter, feel impressed by the necessity of granting Home Rule to Ireland. If the Bill were divided—
§ Mr. SPEAKER:The hon. Member is really trespassing very much on the indulgence of the House. He is dealing with the merits of the question and is not confining himself to the question of procedure, which is the only question for discussion.
Mr. R. M`NEILL:I apologise. I am sorry I have been so much in error. I will endeavour to amend my ways. I certainly had no intention of discussing the merits, except in so far as it was necessary to show that the division of the Bill would enable the people of this country to take into their own consideration the merits of the Bill so far as it affected them as distinct from its effect on Ireland.
§ Mr. SPEAKER:That is an untenable proposition, and the hon. Member is constantly repeating that argument.
§ Mr. R. M'NEILL:I certainly will not trespass any more in that direction, but I hope I shall not be out of order if I say this: Without at all going into the merits of the question, one of the matters which has been most consistently discussed, not merely during the Debates on the present Bill, but throughout the whole controversy on Home Rule, has been a matter affecting British interests as distinct from Irish interests, I mean the question whether or not Irishmen are to come to this House, and in what numbers.
§ Mr. SPEAKER:The hon. Member must be aware that that is a point which has been decided by the House on the Second Reading. It is not a point for discussion now. I have warned the hon. Member two or three times. If he offends again I shall lave to call upon him to resume his seat.
§ Mr. R. M'NEILL:I can only assure you that if I offend I do so unwittingly. I have no intention or desire to be out of order. What I want to suggest is this: although, of course, it is quite true the question of the retention of the Irish Members has been decided by the Second Reading, we have been told, time after time, we may put down suggestions, and, surely it would be open to myself or my
§ hon. Friend to make a suggestion to the House of Lords that the number of Irish Members coming to this House shall be either increased or——
§ Mr. SPEAKERThat is a question which it is not open to the hon. Member to deal with on this Instruction. I must now ask him to resume his seat.
§ Sir FREDERICK LOWrose in his place and claimed to move, "That the Question be now put."
§ Question put, "That the Question be now put."
§ The House divided: Ayes, 254; Noes, 125.
1619| Division No. 130.] | AYES. | [9.53 p.m. |
| Abraham, William (Dublin, Harbour) | Edwards, Sir Francis (Radnor) | Kelly, Edward |
| Abraham, Rt. Hon. William (Rhondda) | Elverston, Sir Harold | Kennedy, Vincent Paul |
| Adamson, William | Esmonde, Dr. John (Tipperary, N.) | Kilbride, Denis |
| Addison, Dr. Christopher | Esmonde, Sir Thomas (Wexford, N.) | King, J. |
| Allen, Arthur A. (Dumbartonshire) | Essex, Sir Richard Walter | Lambert, Richard (Wilts, Cricklade) |
| Allen, Rt. Hon. Charles P. (Stroud) | Esslemont, George Birnie | Lardner, James C. R. |
| Baker, Joseph Allen (Finsbury, E.) | Falconer, James | Law, Hugh A. (Donegal, West) |
| Balfour, Sir Robert (Lanark) | Fenwick, Rt. Hon. Charles | Lawson, Sir W. (Cumb'rld, Cockerm'th) |
| Barlow, Sir John Emmott (Somerset) | Ferens, Rt. Hon. Thomas Robinson | Levy, Sir Maurice |
| Barnes, George N. | Ffrench, Peter | Lewis, Rt. Hon. John Herbert |
| Barran, Rowland Hurst (Leeds, N.) | Field, William | Low, Sir Frederick (Norwich) |
| Barton, William | Fitzgibbon, John | Lundon, Thomas |
| Beale, Sir William Phipson | Flavin, Michael Joseph | Lynch, A. A. |
| Beauchamp, Sir Edward | Furness, Sir Stephen Wilson | Macdonald, J. R. (Leicester) |
| Benn, W. W. (T. Hamlets, St. George) | Gelder, Sir William Alfred | Macdonald, J. M. (Falkirk Burghs) |
| Bethell, Sir John Henry | Ginnell, Laurence | McGhee, Richard |
| Birrell, Rt. Hon. Augustine | Gladstone, W. G. C. | Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J. |
| Black, Arthur W. | Glanville, H. J. | MacNeill, J. G. Swift (Donegal, South) |
| Boland, John Plus | Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford | Macpherson, James Ian |
| Booth, Frederick Handel | Goldstone, Frank | MacVeagh, Jeremiah |
| Bowerman, Charles W. | Greenwood, Hamar (Sunderland) | M'Curdy, C. A. |
| Boyle, Daniel (Mayo, North) | Griffith, Ellis J. | M'Laren, Hon. F.W.S. (Lines, Spalding) |
| Brady, P. J. | Guest, Hon. Frederick E. (Dorset, E.) | M'Micking, Major Gilbert |
| Brocklehurst, W. B. | Gwyrm, Stephen Lucius (Galway) | Manfield, Harry |
| Brunner, John F. L. | Hackett, John | Markham, Sir Arthur Basil |
| Buckmaster, Stanley 0. | Hall, Frederick (Yorks, Normanton) | Marshall, Arthur Harold |
| Burke, E. Haviland- | Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose) | Martin, J. |
| Burt, Rt. Hon. Thomas | Hardie, J. Keir | Mason, David M. (Coventry) |
| Buxton, Noel (Norfolk, North) | Harmsworth, R. L. (Calthness-shire) | Masterman, Rt. Hon. C. F. G. |
| Cawley, H. T, (Lanes., Heywood) | Harvey, W. E. (Derbyshire, N.E.) | Meagher, Michael |
| Chancellor, H. G. | HavelockAllan, Sir Henry | Meehan, Francis E. (Leitrim, N.) |
| Chapple, Dr. William Allen | Hayden, John Patrick | Meehan, Patrick J. (Queen's Co., Leix) |
| Clancy, John Joseph | Hayward, Evan | Millar, James Duncan |
| Clough, William | Hazleton, Richard | Molloy, M. |
| Collins, G. P. (Greenock) | Helme, Sir Norval Watson | Molteno, Percy Alport |
| Compton-Rickett, Rt. Hon. Sir J. | Henderson, Arthur (Durham) | Money, L. G. Chiozza |
| Condon, Thomas Joseph | Henderson, J. M. (Aberdeen, W.) | Mooney, John J. |
| Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. | Henry, Sir Charles | Morgan, George Hay |
| Cotton, William Francis | Hewart, Gordon * | Morrell, Philip |
| Cowan, W. H. | Higham, John Sharp | Morison, Hector |
| Craig, Herbert J. (Tynemouth) | Hinds, John | Morton, Alpheus Cleophas |
| Crumley, Patrick | Hogge, James Myies | Muldoon, John |
| Cullinan, John | Holmes, Daniel Turner | Munro, R. |
| Dalziel, Rt. Hon. Sir J. H. (Kirkcaldy) | Horne, C. Silvester (Ipswich) | Murphy, Martin J. |
| Davies, Ellis William (Eifion) | Hudson, Walter | Murray, Captain Hon. Arthur C. |
| Davies, Timothy (Lines., Louth) | Hughes, Spencer Leigh | Neilson, Francis |
| Davies, Sir W. Howell (Bristol, S.) | Isaacs, Rt. Hon. Sir Rufus | Nicholson, Sir Charles N. (Doncaster) |
| Dawes, James Arthur | Jardine, Sir J. (Roxburgh) | Nolan, Joseph |
| Delany, William | John, Edward Thomas | Norton, Captain Cecil W. |
| Denman, Hon. Richard Douglas | Jones, Edgar (Merthyr Tydvil) | O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) |
| Devlin, Joseph | Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) | O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.) |
| Dickinson, W. H. | Jones, J. Towyn (Carmarthen, East) | O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) |
| Dillon, John | Jones, W. S. Glvn- (T. H'mts., Stepney) | O'Doherty, Philip |
| Doneian, Captain A. | Jowett, Frederick William | O'Donnell, Thomas |
| Doris, William | Joyce, Michael | O'Dowd, John |
| Duffy, William J. | Keating, Matthew | O'Grady, James |
| Duncan, C. (Barrow-in-Furnass) | Kellaway, Frederick George | O'Kelly, Edward P. (Wicklow. W.) |
| O'Kelly, James (Roscommon, N.) | Roberts, G. H. (Norwich) | Toulmin, Sir George |
| O'Malley, William | Roberts, Sir J. H. (Denbighs) | Trevelyan, Charles Philips |
| O'Neill, Dr. Charles (Armagh, S.) | Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford) | Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander |
| O'Shaughnessy, P. J. | Robertson, John M. (Tyneside) | Verney, Sir Harry |
| O'Shee, James John | Robinson, Sidney | Wadsworth, J. |
| O'Sullivan, Timothy | Roch, Walter F. (Pembroke) | Ward, John (Stoke-upon-Trent) |
| Outhwaite, R. L. | Roche, Augustine (Louth) | Wardle, George J. |
| Parker, James (Halifax) | Roe, Sir Thomas | Watt, Henry A. |
| Pearce, Robert (Staffs, Leek) | Rowlands, James | Webb, H. |
| Pearce, William (Limehousc) | Rowntree, Arnold | White, J. Dundas (Glasgow, Tradeston) |
| Philipps, Colonel Ivor (Southampton) | Samuel, J. (Stockton-on-Tees) | White, Sir Luke (Yorks, E.R.) |
| Phillips, John (Longford, S.) | Samuel, Sir Stuart M. (Whitechapel) | White, Patrick (Meath, North) |
| Pirie, Duncan V. | ScanIan, Thomas | Whitehouse, John Howard |
| Pointer, Joseph | Schwann, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles E. | Whittaker, Rt. Hon. Sir Thomas P. |
| Pollard, Sir George H. | Scott, A. MacCallum (Glas., Bridgeton) | Whyte, A. F. (Perth) |
| Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H. | Seely, Rt. Hon. Colonel J. E. B. | Wiles, Thomas |
| Price, C. E. (Edinburgh, Central) | Sheehy, David | Wilson, Hon. G. G. (Hull, W.) |
| Pringle, William M. R. | Sherwell, Arthur James | Wilson, John (Durham, Mid) |
| Radford, George Heynes | Smith, Albert (Lanes., Clitheroe) | Wilson, Rt. Hon. J. W. (Worcs., N.) |
| Raphael, Sir Herbert H. | Smith, H. B. Lees (Northampton) | Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton) |
| Rea, Walter Russell (Scarborough) | Smyth, Thomas F. (Leitrim, S.) | Winfrey, Richard |
| Reddy, Michael | Snowden, P. | Wing, Thomas |
| Redmond, John E. (Waterford). | Spicer, Rt. Hon. Sir Albert | Wood, Rt. Hon. T. McKinnon (Glasgow) |
| Redmond, William (Clare, E.) | Stanley, Albert (Staffs, N.W.) | Young, William (Perthshire, East) |
| Redmond, William Archer (Tyrone, E.) | Sutherland, John E. | Yoxall, Sir James Henry |
| Rendall, Athelstan | Taylor, John W. (Durham) | |
| Richards, Thomas | Tennant. Harold John | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr. Illingworth and Mr. Gulland. |
| Richardson, Thomas (Whitehaven) | Thomas, J. H. | |
| Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln) | Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton) | |
| NOES. | ||
| Astor, Waldorf | Grant, J. A. | Parker, Sir Gilbert (Gravesend) |
| Baird, J. L. | Greene, Walter Raymond | Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlington) |
| Baker, Sir Randolf L. (Dorset, N.) | Gretton, John | Peel, Lieut.-Colonel R. F. |
| Baldwin, Stanley | Guinness, Hon. Rupert (Essex, S.E.) | Perkins, Walter Frank |
| Barnston, Harry | Guinness, Hon. W. E. (Bury S. Edmunds) | Pollock, Ernest Murray |
| Bathurst, Charles (Wilts, Wilton) | Hall, D. B. (Isle of Wight) | Pretyman, Ernest George |
| Beach, Hon. Michael Hugh Hicks | Hambro, Angus Valdemar | Pryce-Jones, Colonel E. |
| Benn, Arthur Shirley (Plymouth) | Hamersley, Alfred St. George | Randles, Sir John S. |
| Benn, Ion Hamilton (Greenwich) | Hamilton, Lord C. J. (Kensington, S.) | Rawson, Col. Richard H. |
| Bird, Aifred | Hamilton, C. G. C. (Ches., Altrincham) | Roberts. S. (Sheffield, Ecclesall) |
| Blair, Reginald | Hardy, Rt. Hon. Laurence | Ronaldshay, Earl of |
| Boles, Lieut.-Col. Dennis Fortescue | Harris, Henry Percy | Rothschild, Lionel de |
| Boyle, William (Norfolk, Mid) | Helmsley, Viscount | Rutherford, John (Lancs., Darwen) |
| Boyton, James | Henderson, Major H. (Berks, Abingdon) | Rutherford, Watson (L'pool, W. Derby) |
| Bridgeman, W. Clive | Hewins, William Albert Samuel | Salter, Arthur Clavell |
| Butcher, John George | Hickman, Colonel Thomas E. | Samuel, Sir Harry (Norwood) |
| Campbell, Captain Duncan F. (Ayr, N.) | Hills, John Waller | Sanderson, Lancelot |
| Campion, W. R. | Hill-Wood, Samuel | Sandys, G. J. |
| Carlile, Sir Edward Hildred | Hoare, Samuel John Gurney | Smith, Rt. Hon. F. E. (L'p'l., Walton) |
| Cassel, Felix | Hope, Harry (Bute) | Spear, Sir John Ward |
| Cave, George | Hope, James Fitzalan (Sheffield) | Stanley, Hon. G. F. (Preston) |
| Chaloner, Colonel R. G. W. | Houston, Robert Paterson | Starkey, John Ralph |
| Coates, Major Sir Edward Feetham | Hume-Williams, William Ellis | Stewart, Gershom |
| Cory, Sir Clifford John | Jardine, Ernest (Somerset, East) | Strauss. Arthur (Paddington, North) |
| Craig, Charles Curtis (Antrim, S.) | Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement | Swift, Rigby |
| Craik, Sir Henry | Knight, Captain E. A. | Sykes, Alan John (Ches., Knutsford) |
| Crichton-Stuart, Lord Ninlan | Larmor, Sir J. | Sykes, Sir Mark (Hull, Central) |
| Dalziel, Davison (Brixton) | Law, Rt. Hon. A. Bonar (Bootle) | Talbot, Lord Edmund |
| Denniss, E. R. B. | Lloyd, George Ambrose (Stafford, W.) | Terrell, George (Wilts, N.W.) |
| Dickson, Rt. Hon. C. Scott | Lloyd, George Butler (Shrewsbury) | Terrell, H. (Gloucester) |
| Dixon, C. H. | Locker-Lampson, O. (Ramsey) | Thompson, Robert (Belfast, North) |
| Duke, Henry Edward | Lockwood, Rt. Hon. Lt.-Colonel A. R. | Valentia, Viscount |
| Eyres-Monsell, Bolton M. | Lyttelton, Hon. J. C. (Droitwich) | Walrond, Hon. Lionel |
| Fell, Arthur | Mackinder, H. J. | Weston. Colonel J. W. |
| Finlay, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert | M' Neill, Ronald (Kent, St. Augustine's) | Wheler, Granville C. H. |
| Fisher, Rt. Hon. W. Hayes | Magnus, Sir Philip | White, Major G. D. (Lancs., Southport) |
| Fletcher, John Samuel (Hampstead) | Mason, James (Windsor) | Willoughby, Major Hon. Claud |
| Forster, Henry William | Morrison-Bell, Cant. E. F. (Ashburton) | Worthington-Evans, L. |
| Gardner, Ernest | Morrison-Bell, Major A. C. (Honiton) | Yate, Colonel C. E. |
| Gastrell, Major W. H. | Mount, William Arthur | |
| Gilmour, Captain John | Newton, Harry Kottingham | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Sir |
| Glazebrook, Captain Philip K. | Nield, Herbert | F. Banbury and Mr. Rawlinson. |
| Goldsmith, Frank | Orde-Powlett, Hon. W. G. A. |
§ Question put accordingly, "That is be Instruction to the Committee that they have power to divide the Bill into two Bills, the first dealing with the Constitution and powers of the Irish Parliament, 1620 and the second dealing with the alteration in the Constitution of the Parliament of the United Kingdom."
§ The House divided: Ayes, 136; Noes, 264.
1623| Division No.131] | AYES. | [10.2 p.m. |
| Archer-Shee, Major Martin | Goldsmith, Frank | Pease, Herbert (Darlington) |
| Astor, Waldorf | Gordon, Hon. John Edward (Brighton) | Peel, Lieut.-Colonel R. F. |
| Baird, J. L. | Grant, J. A. | Perkins, Walter Frank |
| Baker, Sir Randolf L. (Dorset, N.) | Greene, W. R. | Pollock, Ernest Murray |
| Baldwin, Stanley | Gretton, John | Pretyman, E. G. |
| Barnston, Harry | Guinness, Hon. Ruport (Essex, S.E.) | Pryce-Jones, Colonel E. |
| Bathurst, Charles (Wilts, Wilton) | Guinness, Hon.W. E. (Bury S. Edmunds) | Quilter, Sir William Eley C. |
| Beach. Hon. Michael Hugh Hicks | Gwynne, R. S. (Sussex, Eastbourne) | Randles, Sir John S. |
| Benn, Arthur Shirley (Plymouth) | Hall, D. B. (Isle of Wight) | Rawlinson, John Frederick Peer |
| Benn, Ion Hamilton (Greenwich) | Hambro, Angus Valdemar | Rawson, Colonel R. H. |
| Bird, Alfred | Hamersley, A. St. George | Roberts, S. (Sheffield, Ecclesall) |
| Blair, Reginald | Hamilton, Lord C. J. (Kensington, S.) | Ronaldshay, Earl of |
| Boles, Lieut.-Col. Dennis Fortescue | Hamilton, C. G. C. (Ches., Altrincham) | Rothschild, Lionel de |
| Boyle, William (Norfolk, Mid) | Hardy, Rt. Hon. Laurence | Rutherford, John (Lanes., Darwen) |
| Boyton, J. | Harris, Henry Percy | Rutherford, Watson (L'pool, W. Derby)' |
| Bridgeman, W. Clivn | Helmsley. Viscount | Salter, Arthur Clave!l |
| Burn, Colonel C. R. | Henderson, Major H. (Berks, Abingdon) | Samuel, Sir Harry (Norwood) |
| Butcher, John George | Hewins, William Albert Samuel | Sanderson, Lancelot |
| Campbell, Captain Duncan F. (Ayr, N.) | Hickman, Colonel Thomas E. | Sandys, G. J. |
| Campion, W. R. | Hills, John Waller | Smith, Rt. Hon. F. E. (L'pool, Walton). |
| Carille, Sir Edward Hildred | Hill-Wood, Samuel | Spear, Sir John Ward |
| Cassel, Felix | Hoare, S. J. G. | Stanley, Hon. G. F. (Preston) |
| Cator, John | Hope, Harry (Bute) | Starkey, John R. |
| Cave, George | Hope, James Fitzalan (Sheffield) | Stewart, Gershom |
| Chaloner, Colonel R. G. W. | Houston, Robert Paterson | Strauss, Arthur (Paddington, North) |
| Clive, Captain Percy Archer | Hume-Williams, W. E. | Swift, Rigby |
| Coates. Major Sir Edward Feetham | Jardine, Ernest (Somerset, East) | Sykes, Alan John (Ches., Knutsford) |
| Cory, Sir Clifford John | Kinloch-Cooke. Sir Clement | Sykes, Sir Mark (Hull, Central) |
| Craik, Sir Henry | Knight, Captain E. A. | Talbot, Lord E. |
| Crichton-Stuart, Lord Ninian | Larmor, Sir J. | Terrell. George (Wilts, N.W.) |
| Dalziel, Davison (Brixton) | Law, Rt. Hon. A. Bonar (Bootle) | Terrell, Henry (Gloucester) |
| Denison-Pender, J. C. | Lloyd, George Ambrose (Stafford, W.) | Thompson, Robert (Belfast, North) |
| Denniss, E. R. B. | Lloyd, George Butler (Shrewsbury) | Touche, George Alexander |
| Dickson, Rt. Hon. C. Scott | Locker-Lampson, O. (Ramsey) | Valentia, Viscount |
| Dixon, C. H. | Lockwood, Rt. Hon. Lt.-Colonel A. R. | Walrond, Hon. Lionel |
| Duke, Henry Edward | Mackinder, H. J. | Weston, Colonel J. W. |
| Duncannon, Viscount | M'Neill, Ronald (Kent, St. Augustine's) | Wheler, Granville C. H. |
| Eyres-Monsell, Bolton M. | Magnus, Sir Philip | White, Major G. D (Lanes., Southport) |
| Fell, Arthur | Mason, James F. (Windsor) | Willoughby, Major Hon. Claud |
| Finlay, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert | Morrison-Bell, Capt. E. F. (Ashburton) | Winterton, Earl |
| Fisher, Rt. Hon. W. Hayes | Morrison-Bell, Major A. C. (Honiton) | Wolmer, Viscount |
| Fletcher, John Samuel (Hampstead) | Mount. William Arthur | Worthington-Evans, L. |
| Forster, Henry William | Newton, Harry Kottingham | Yate, Colonel C. E. |
| Gardner, Ernest | Nield, Herbert | |
| Gastrell. Major W. H. | Orde-Powlett, Hon. W. G. A. | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Sir |
| Gilmour, Captain John | Parker, Sir Gilbert (Gravesend) | F. Banbury and Mr. J. C. Lyttelton. |
| Glazebrook, Captain Philip K. |
| NOES. | ||
| Abraham, William (Dublin, Harbour) | Buxton, Noel (Norfolk, North) | Elverston, Sir Harold |
| Abraham, Rt. Hon. William (Rhondda) | Cawley, Harold T. (Lanes., Heywood) | Esmonde, Dr. John (Tipperary, N.) |
| Adamson, William | Chancellor, Henry George | Esmonde, Sir Thomas (Wexford, N.) |
| Addison, Dr. C. | Chapple, Dr. William Allen | Essex, Sir Richard Walter |
| Allen, A. A. (Dumbartonshire) | Clancy, John Joseph | Esslemont, George Birnie |
| Allen, Rt. Hon. Charles P. (Stroud) | Clough, William | Falconer, J. |
| Asquith, Rt. Hon. Herbert Henry | Collins, G. P. (Greenock) | Fenwick, Rt. Hon. Charles |
| Baker, Joseph A. (Finsbury, E.) | Compton-Rickett, Rt. Hon. Sir J. | Ferens, Rt. Hon. Thomas Robinson. |
| Balfour, Sir Robert (Lanark) | Condon, Thomas Joseph | Ftrench, Peter |
| Baring, Sir Godfrey (Barnstaple) | Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. | Field, William |
| Barlow, Sir John Emmott (Somerset) | Cotton, William Francis | Fitzglbbon, John |
| Barnes, George N. | Cowan, W. H. | Flavin, Michael Joseph |
| Barran, Rowland Hurst (Leeds, N.) | Craig, Herbert J. (Tynemouth) | Furness, Sir Stephen Wilton. |
| Barton, William | Crumley, Patrick | Gelder, Sir W. A. |
| Beale, Sir William Phipson | Cullinan, John | Ginnell, Laurence |
| Beauchamp, Sir Edward | Dalziel, Rt. Hon. Sir J. H. (Kirkcaldy) | Gladstone, W. G. C. |
| Beck, Arthur Cecil | Davies, Ellis William (Eiflon) | Glanville, H. J. |
| Benn, W. W. (T. Hamlets, St. George) | Davies, Timothy (Lines., Louth) | Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford |
| Bethell, Sir J. H. | Davies, Sir W. Howell (Bristol, S.) | Goldstene, Frank |
| Birrell, Rt. Hon.' Augustine | Dawes, J. A. | Greenwood, Hamar (Sunderland) |
| Black, Arthur | Delany, William | Griffith, Ellis Jones |
| Boland, John Plus | Denman, Hon. Richard Douglas | Guest, Hon. Frederick E. (Dorset, E.) |
| Booth, Frederick Handel | Devlin, Joseph | Gwynn, Stephen Lucius (Galway) |
| Bowerman, Charles W. | Dickinson, W. H. | Hackett, John |
| Boyle, Daniel (Mayo, North) | Dillon, John | Hall, Frederick (Yorks, Normanton) |
| Brady, P. J. | Donelan, Captain A. | Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose) |
| Brocklehurst, W. B. | Doris, William | Hardie, J. Keir |
| Brunner, John F. L. | Duffy, William J. | Harmsworth, Cecil (Luton, Beds) |
| Buckmaster, Stanley O. | Duncan, C. (Barrow-in-Furness) | Harmsworth, R. L. (Caithness-shire) |
| Burke, E. Haviland- | Edwards, Clement (Glamorgan, E.) | Harvey, T. E. (Leeds, West) |
| Burt, Rt. Hon. Thomas | Edwards, Sir Francis (Radnor) | Harvey, W. E. (Derbyshire, N.E.) |
| Havelock-Allan, Sir Henry | Meagher, Michael | Roberts, G. H. (Norwich) |
| Hayden, John Patrick | Meehan, Francis E. (Leitrim, N.) | Roberts, Sir J. H. (Denbighs) |
| Hayward, Evan | Meehan, Patrick J. (Queen's Co., Leix) | Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford) |
| Hazleton, Richard | Millar, James Duncan | Robertson, J. M. (Tyneside) |
| Helme, Sir Norval Watson | Molloy, Michael | Robinson, Sidney |
| Henderson, Arthur (Durham) | Molteno, Percy Alport | Roch, Walter F. (Pembroke) |
| Henderson, J. M. (Aberdeen, W.) | Money, L. G. Chiozza | Roche, Augustine (Louth) |
| Henry, Sir Charles | Mooney, John J. | Roe, Sir Thomas |
| Hewart, Gordon | Morgan, George Hay | Rowlands, James |
| Higham, John Sharp | Morrell, Philip | Rowntree, Arnold |
| Hinds, John | Morison, Hector | Samuel, J. (Stockton-on-Tees) |
| Hogge, James Myles | Morton, Alpheus Cleophas | Samuel, Sir Stuart M. (Whitechapel) |
| Holmes, Daniel Turner | Muldoon, John | Scanlan, Thomas |
| Horne, Charles Slivester (Ipswich) | Munro. R. | Schwann, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles E. |
| Howard, Hon. Geoffrey | Murphy, Martin J. | Scott, A. MacCallum (Glas., Bridgeton) |
| Hudson, Walter | Murray, Captain Hon. A. C. | Seely, Rt. Hon. Colonel J. E. B. |
| Hughes, Spencer Leigh | Neilson, Francis | Sheehy, David |
| Isaacs, Rt. Hon. Sir Rufus | Nicholson, Sir Charles N. (Doncaster) | Sherwell, Arthur James |
| Jardine, Sir J. (Roxburgh) | Nolan, Joseph | Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir John Allsebrook |
| John, Edward Thomas | Norton, Captain Cecil W. | Smith, Albert (Lanes., Clitheroe) |
| Jones, Edgar R. (Merthyr Tydvil) | O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) | Smith, H. B. Lees (Northampton) |
| Jones, H. Haydn (Merioneth) | O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.) | Smyth, Thomas F. (Leitrim, S.) |
| Jones, J. Towyn (Carmarthen, East) | O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) | Snowden, Philip |
| Jones, William (Carnarvonshire) | O'Doherty, Philip | Spicer, Rt. Hon. Sir Albert |
| Jones, W. S. Glyn- (T. H'mts,, Stepney) | O'Donnell, Thomas | Stanley, Albert (Staffs, N.W.) |
| Jowett, Frederick William | O'Dowd, John | Sutherland, John E. |
| Joyce, Michael | O'Grady, James | Taylor, John W. (Durham) |
| Keating, Matthew | O'Kelly, Edward P. (Wicklow, W.) | Tennant, Harold John |
| Kellaway, Frederick George | O'Kelly, James (Roscommon, N.) | Thomas, J. H. |
| Kelly, Edward | O'Malley, William | Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton) |
| Kennedy, Vincent Paul | O'Neill, Dr. Charles (Armagh, S.) | Toulmin. Sir George |
| Kilbride, Denis | O'Shaughnessy, P. J. | Trevelyan, Charles Philips |
| King, Joseph | O'Shee, James John | Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander |
| Lambert, Richard (Wilts, Cricklade) | O'Sullivan, Timothy | Verney, Sir Harry |
| Lardner, James C. R. | Outhwaite. R. L. | Wadsworth, J. |
| Law, Hugh A. (Donegal, West) | Palmer, Godfrey Mark | Ward, John (Stoke-upon-Trent) |
| Lawson, Sir W. (Cumb'rld, Cockerm'th) | Parker, James (Halifax) | Wardle, George J. |
| Levy, Sir Maurice | Pearce, Robert (Staffs, Leek) | Watt, Henry A. |
| Lewis, Rt. Hon. John Herbert | Pearce, William (Limehouse) | Webb, H. |
| Low, Sir Frederick (Norwich) | Philipps, Colonel Ivor (Southampton) | White, J. Dundas (Glasgow, Tradeston) |
| Lundon, Thomas | Phillips, John (Longford, S.) | White, Sir Luke (Yorks, E.R.) |
| Lynch, A. A. | Pirie, Duncan V | White, Patrick (Meath, North) |
| Macdonald, J. R. (Leicester) | Pointer,. Joseph | Whitehouse, John Howard |
| Macdonald, J. M. (Falkirk Burghs) | Pollard, Sir George H. | Whittaker, Rt. Hon. Sir Thomas P. |
| McGhee, Richard | Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H. | Whyte, A. F. (Perth) |
| Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J. | Price, C. E. (Edinburgh, Central) | Wiles, Thomas |
| MacNeill, J. G. Swift (Donegal, South) | Pringle, William M. R. | Wilson, Hon. G. G. (Hull, W.) |
| Macpherson, James Ian | Radford, George Heynes | Wilson, John (Durham, Mid) |
| MacVeagh, Jeremiah | Raphael, Sir Herbert H. | Wilson, Rt. Hon. J. W. (Worcs, N.) |
| M'Curdy, C. A. | Rea, Walter Russell (Scarborough) | Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton) |
| M'Laren, Hon. F.W.S. (Lines., Spalding) | Reddy, Michael | Winfrey, Richard |
| M'Micking, Major Gilbert | Redmond, John E. (Waterford) | Wing, Thomas |
| Manfield, Harry | Redmond, William (Clare, E.) | Wood, Rt. Hon. T. McKinnon (Glasgow) |
| Markham, Sir Arthur Basil | Redmond, William Archer (Tyrone, E.) | Young, William (Perthshire, East) |
| Marshall, Arthur Harold | Rendall. Athelstan | Yoxall, Sir James Henry |
| Martin, Joseph | Richards, Thomas | |
| Mason, David M. (Coventry) | Richardson. Thomas (Whitehaven) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Mr. Illingworth and Mr. Gulland. |
| Masterman, Rt. Hon. C. F. G. | Roberts. Charles H. (Lincoln) |
§ Bill considered in Committee.
§ [Mr. WHITLEY in the chair.]
§ The CHAIRMAN, pursuant to the order of the House of 23rd June, procecded forthwith to put the Question, "That the
1624§ Chairman do report the Bill without Amendment to the House."
§ The Committee divided: Ayes, 270; Noes, 143.
1627| Division No. 133.] | AYES. | [10.12 p.m. |
| Abraham, William (Dublin, Harbour) | Barran, Rowland Hurst (Leeds, N.) | Brady, P. J. |
| Abraham, Rt. Hon. William (Rhondda) | Barton, William | Brocklehurst, William B. |
| Acland, Francis Dyke | Beale, Sir William Phipson | Brunner, John F. L. |
| Adamson, William | Beauchamp, Sir Edward | Buckmaster, Stanley O. |
| Addison, Dr. C. | Beck, Arthur Cecil | Burke, E. Haviland- |
| Allen, Arthur A. (Dumbartonshire) | Benn. W. W. (T. Hamlets, St. George) | Burt, Rt. Hon. Thomas |
| Allen, Rt. Hon. Charles P. (Stroud) | Bethell. Sir J. H. | Buxton, Noel (Norfolk, North) |
| Asquith, Rt. Hon. Herbert Henry | Birrell, Rt. Hon. Augustine | Cawley, Harold T. (Lanes., Heywood |
| Baker, Joseph Allen (Finsbury, E.) | Black, Arthur W. | Chancellor, Henry George |
| Balfour, Sir Robert (Lanark) | Boland, John Pius | Chapple, Dr. William Allen |
| Baring, Sir Godfrey (Barnstaple) | Booth, Frederick Handel | Clancy, John Joseph |
| Barlow, Sir John Emmott (Somerset) | Bowerman, Charles W. | Clough, William |
| Barnes, George N. | Boyle. Daniel (Mayo, North) | Collins, G. P. (Greenock) |
| Compton-Rickett, Rt. Hon. Sir J. | Jones, J. Towyn (Carmarthen, East) | Pearce, William (Limehouse) |
| Condon, Thomas Joseph | Jones, William (Carnarvonshire) | Phillipps, Colonel lvor (Southampton) |
| Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. | Jones, W. S. Glyn- (T. H'mts, Stepnay) | Phillips, John (Longford, S.) |
| Cotton, William Francis | Jowett, Frederick William | Pointer, Joseph |
| Cowan, W. H. | Joyce, Michael | Pollard, Sir George H. |
| Craig, Herbert J. (Tynemouth) | Keating, Matthew | Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H. |
| Crumley, Patrick | Kellaway, Frederick George | Price, C. E. (Edinburgh, Central) |
| Cullinan, J. | Kelly, Edward | Pringle, William M. R. |
| Dalziel. Rt. Hon. Sir J. H. (Kirkcaldy) | Kennedy, Vincent Paul | Radford, G. H. |
| Davies, Ellis William (Eifion) | Kilbride, Denis | Raphael, Sir Herbert H. |
| Davies, Timothy (Lincs., Louth) | King, J. | Rea, Walter Russell (Scarborough) |
| Davies, Sir W. Howell (Bristol, S.) | Lambert, Richard (Wilts, Cricklade) | Reddy, Michael |
| Dawes, J. A. | Lardner, James C. R. | Redmond, John E. (Waterford) |
| Delany, William | Law, Hugh A. (Donegal, West) | Redmond, William (Clare, E.) |
| Denman, Hon. Richard Douglas | Lawson, Sir W. (Cumb'rld, Cockerm'th) | Redmond, William Archer (Tyrone, E.) |
| Devlin, Joseph | Levy, Sir Maurice | Rendall, Athelstan |
| Dickinson, W. H. | Lewis, Rt. Hon. John Herbert | Richards, Thomas |
| Dillon, John | Low, Sir Frederick (Norwich) | Richardson, Thomas (Whitehaven) |
| Donelan, Captain A. | Lundon, Thomas | Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln) |
| Doris, William | Lynch, Arthur Alfred | Roberts, George H. (Norwich) |
| Duffy, William J. | Macdonald, J. R. (Leicester) | Roberts, Sir J. H. (Denbighs) |
| Duncan, C. (Barrow-In-Furness) | Macdonald, J. M. (Falkirk Burghs, | Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford) |
| Edwards, Sir Francis (Radnor) | McGhee, Richard | Robertson, J. M. (Tyneside) |
| Elverston, Sir Harold | Maclean, Donald | Robinson, Sidney |
| Esmonde, Dr. John (Tipperary, N.) | Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J. | Roch, Walter F. (Pembroke) |
| Esmonde, Sir Thomas (Wexford. 'N.) | Mac Neill, J. G. Swift (Donegal, South) | Roche, Augustine (Louth) |
| Essex, Sir Richard Walter | Macpherson, James Ian | Roe, Sir Thomas |
| Esslemont, George Birnie | Mac Veagh, Jeremiah | Rowlands, James |
| Falconer, James | M' Curdy, Charles Albert | Rowntree, Arnold |
| Fenwick, Rt. Hon. Charles | M 'Kean, John | Samuel, J. (Stockton-on-Tees) |
| Ferens, Rt. Hon. Thomas Robinson | McKenna, Rt. Hon. Reginald | Samuel, Sir Stuart M. (Whitechapel) |
| Ffrench, Peter | M' Laren, Hon. F.W.S. (Lines., Spalding) | Scanlan, Thomas |
| Field, William | M 'Micking, Major Gilbert | Schwann, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles E. |
| Fitzgibbon, John | Manfield, Harry | Scott, A. MacCallum (Glas., Bridgeton) |
| Flavin, Michael Joseph | Markham, Sir Arthur Basil | Seely, Rt. Hon. Colonel J. E. B. |
| Furness, Sir Stephen Wilson | Marshall, Arthur Harold | Sheehy, David |
| Gelder, Sir W. A. | Martin, Joseph | Sherwell, Arthur James |
| Ginnell, L. | Mason, David M. (Coventry) | Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir John Allsebrook |
| Gladstone, W. G. C. | Masterman, Rt. Hon. C. F. G. | Smith, Albert (Lanes., Clitheroe) |
| Glanville, H. J. | Meagher, Michael | Smith, H. B. Lees (Northampton) |
| Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford | Meehan, Francis E. (Leitrim, N.) | Smyth, Thomas F. (Leitrim, S.) |
| Goldstone, Frank | Meehan, Patrick J. (Queen's Co., Leix) | Snowden, Philip |
| Greenwood Granville G. (Peterborough) | Millar, James Duncan | Spicer, Rt Hon. Sir Albert |
| Greenwood, Hamar (Sunderland) | Molloy, Michael | Stanley, Albert (Staffs, N.W.) |
| Griffith, Ellis J | Molteno, Percy Alport | Strauss, Edward A. (Southwark, Wes) |
| Guest, Hon. Frederick E. (Dorset, E.) | Money, L. G. Chiozza | Sutherland, John |
| Gwynn, Stephen Lucius (Galway) | Mooney, John J. | Taylor, John W. (Durham) |
| Hackett, John | Morgan. George Hay | Tennant, Harold John |
| Hall, Frederick (Yorks, Normanton) | Morrell, Philip | Thomas, J. H. |
| Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose) | Morison, Hector | Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton) |
| Hardie. J. Keir | Morton, Alpheus Cleophas | Toulmin, Sir George |
| Harmsworth, Cecil (Luton, Beds) | Muldoon, John | Trevelyan, Charles Philips |
| Harmsworth, R. L. (Calthness-shire) | Munro, Robert | Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander |
| Harvey, T. E. (Leeds, West) | Munro-Ferguson, Rt. Hon. R. C. | Verney, Sir Harry |
| Harvey, W. E. (Derbyshire, N.E.) | Murphy, Martin J. | Wadsworth, John |
| Havelock-Allan, Sir Henry | Murray, Captain Hon. Arthur C. | Ward, John (Stoke-upon-Trent) |
| Hayden, John Patrick | Neilson, Francis | Wardle, George J. |
| Hayward, Evan | Nicholson, Sir Charles N. (Doncaster) | Watt, Henry A. |
| Hazleton, Richard | Nolan, Joseph | Webb, H. |
| Helme, Sir Norval Watson | Norton, Captain Cecil W. | White, J. Dundas (Glasgow, Tradestony |
| Henderson, Arthur (Durham) | O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) | White, Sir Luke (Yorks, E.R.) |
| Henderson, J. M. (Aberdeen, W.) | O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.) | White, Patrick (Meath, North) |
| Henry, Sir Charles | O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) | Whitehouse, John Howard |
| Herbert, General Sir Ivor (Mon., S.) | O'Doherty, Philip | Whittaker, Rt. Hon. Sir Thomas P. |
| Hewart, Gordon | O'Donnell, Thomas | Whyte, A. F. (Perth) |
| Higham, John Sharp | O'Dowd, John | Wiles, Thomas |
| Hinds, John | O'Grady, James | Wilson, Hon. G. G. (Hull, W.) |
| Hobhouse. Rt. Hon. Charles E. H. | O'Kelly, Edward P. (Wicklow, W.) | Wilson, John (Durham, Mid) |
| Hogge, James Myles | O' Kelly, James (Roscommon, N.) | Wilson, Rt. Hon. J. W. (Worcs., N.) |
| Holmes, Daniel Turner | O'Malley. William | Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton) |
| Horne, C. Silvester (Ipswich) | O'Neill, Dr. Charles (Armagh, S.) | Winfrey, Richard |
| Howard, Hon. Geoffrey | O 'Shaughnessy, P. J. | Wing, Thomas |
| Hudson, Walter | O' Shee, James John | Wood, Rt. Hon. T. McKinnon (Glasgow) |
| Hughes, Spencer Leigh | O'Sullivan, Timothy | Young, William (Perth, East) |
| Isaacs, Rt. Hon. Sir Rufus | Outhwaite, R. L. | Yoxall, Sir James Henry |
| Jardine, Sir J. (Roxburgh) | Palmer, Godfrey Mark | |
| John, Edward Thomas | Parker, James (Halifax) | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr. Illingworth and Mr. Gulland. |
| Jones, Edgar (Merthyr Tydvil) | Pearce, Robert (Staffs, Leek) | |
| Jones, H. Haydn (Merioneth) | ||
| NOES. | ||
| Anson, Rt. Hon. Sir William | Baird, John Lawrence | Banbury, Sir Frederick George |
| Archer-Shee, Major M. | Baker, Sir Randolf L. (Dorset, N.) | Barnston, Harry |
| Astor, Waldorf | Baldwin, Stanley | Bathurst, Charles (Wilts, Wilton) |
| Beach, Hon. Michael Hugh Hicks | Guinness, Hon. Rupert (Essex, S.E.) | Pollock, Ernest Murray |
| Beckett, Hon. Gervase | Guinness, Hon. W. E. (Bury S. Edmunds) | Pretyman, E. G. |
| Benn, Arthur Shirley (Plymouth) | Gwynne, R. S. (Sussex, Eastbourne) | Pryce-Jones, Colonel E. |
| Benn, Ion Hamilton (Greenwich) | Hall, D. B. (Isle of Wight) | Quilter, Sir William Eley C. |
| Bird, Alfred | Hambro, Angus Valdemar | Randies, Sir John S. |
| Blair, Reginald | Hamersley, Alfred St George | Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel |
| Boles, Lieut.-Colonel Dennis Fortescue | Hamilton, Lord C. J. (Kensington, S.) | Rawson, Colonel Richard H. |
| Boyle, William (Norfolk, Mid) | Hamilton, C. G. C. (Ches., Altrincham) | Roberts, S. (Sheffield, Ecclesall) |
| Boyton, James | Hardy, Rt. Hon. Laurence | Ronaldshay, Earl of |
| Bridgeman, W. Clive | Harris, Henry Percy | Rothschild, Lionel de |
| Burn, Colonel C. R. | Helmsley, Viscount | Rutherford, John (Lanes., Darwen) |
| Butcher, John George | Henderson, Major H. (Berks, Abingdon) | Rutherford, Watson (L'pool, W. Derby) |
| Campbell, Capt. Duncan F. (Ayr, N.) | Hewins, William Albert Samuel | Salter, Arthur Clavell |
| Campion, W. R. | Hickman, Colonel Thomas E. | Samuel, Sir Harry (Norwood) |
| Carlile, Sir Edward Hildred | Hills, John Waller | Sanderson, Lancelot |
| Cassel, Felix | Hill-Wood, Samuel | Sandys, G. J. |
| Cator, John | Hoare. Samuel John Gurney | Smith, Rt. Hon. F. E. (L'pool, Walton) |
| Cave, George | Hope, Harry (Bute) | Spear, Sir John Ward |
| Chaloner, Col. R. G. W. | Hope, James Fitzalan (Sheffield) | Stanley, Hon. G. F. (Preston) |
| Clive, Captain Percy Archer | Houston, Robert Paterson | Starkey, John R. |
| Coates, Major Sir Edward Feetham | Hume-Williams, William Ellis | Stewart, Gershom |
| Cory, Sir Clifford John | Hunt, Rowland | Strauss, Arthur (Paddington, North) |
| Craik, Sir Henry | Jardine. Ernest (Somerset, East) | Swift, Rigby |
| Crichton-Stuart, Lord Ninian | Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement | Sykes, Alan John (Ches., Knutsford) |
| Dalziel, Davison (Brixton) | Knight, Captain Eric Ayshford | Sykes, Sir Mark (Hull, Central) |
| Denison-Pender, J. C. | Larmor, Sir J. | Terrell. George (Wilts, N.W.) |
| Denniss, E. R. B. | Law, Rt. Hon. A. Bonar (Bootle) | Terrell. Henry (Gloucester) |
| Dickson, Rt. Hon. C. Scott | Lloyd, George Ambrose (Stafford, W.) | Thompson, Robert (Belfast, North) |
| Dixon, C. H. | Lloyd, George Butler (Shrewsbury) | Thynne, Lord Alexander |
| Duke, Henry Edward | Locker-Lampson; O. (Ramsey) | Touche, George Alexander |
| Duncannon, Viscount | Lockwood, Rt. Hon. Lt.-Colonel A. R. | Valentia, Viscount |
| Eyres-Monsell, Bolton M. | Lytteiton, Hon. J. C. (Droitwich) | Walrond, Lionel |
| Fell, Arthur | Mackinder, Halford J. | Warde, Colonel C. E. (Kent, Mid) |
| Finlay, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert | M'Neill, Ronald (Kent, St. Augustine's) | Weston, Colonel J. W. |
| Fisher, Rt. Hon. W. Hayes | Magnus, Sir Philip | Wheler, Granville C. H. |
| Fletcher, John Samuel (Hampstead) | Mason, James F. (Windsor) | White, Major G. D. (Lanes.. Southport) |
| Forster, Henry William | Morrison-Bell, Capt. E. F. (Ashburton) | Willoughby, Major Hon. Claud |
| Gardner, Ernest | Morrison-Bell, Major A. C. (Honiton) | Winterton, Earl |
| Gastrell, Major W. Houghton | Mount, William Arthur | Wolmer, Viscount |
| Gilmour, Captain John | Newdegate, F. A. | Wood, John (Stalybridge) |
| Glazebrook, Captain Philip K. | Newton, Harry Kottingham | Worthington-Evans. L. |
| Goldsmith, Frank | Nield, Herbert | Yate, Colonel C. E. |
| Gordon, Hon. John Edward (Brighton) | Orde-Powlett, Hon. W. G. A. | |
| Grant, J. A. | Parker, Sir Gilbert (Gravesend) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Lord |
| Greene, Walter Raymond | Peel, Lieut-Colonel R. F. | Edmund Talbot and Mr. Pike Pease. |
| Gretton, John | Perkins, Walter F. |
§ Bill reported without Amendment; to be read the third time To-morrow (Tuesday).