§ Resolution reported,
§ "That a sum, not exceeding £70,900, be granted to His Majesty, to complete the sum necessary to defray the Charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1914, for the Royal Parks and Pleasure Gardens."
§ Motion made, and Question proposed, "That the House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolution."
§ Mr. CASSELI wish again to raise a point which I indicated on the Committee stage of this Resolution, and in regard to which I think the hon. Gentleman representing the Government showed considerable sympathy, although I do not think then he was quite fully informed of the facts. It is a matter affecting the labourers and the gardeners in Regent's Park. The course now adopted is a serious grievance to them. Formerly the system with regard to Regent's Park was that there should be two night watchmen regularly employed for the night-work. Under the new system men regularly employed in day-work as gardeners and labourers have to take turn and turn about 1986 at night-work. At the time they were originally engaged there was no question of their taking up that class of work, and they now say it is a great hardship that they should be asked to do this work. On the last occasion the hon. Gentleman thought they were in favour of it, because it gave them an opportunity of earning larger wages. Since then I have received signed statements by the overwhelming majority of the men protesting against the new system adopted. Under these circumstances I hope the hon. Gentleman, with these new facts before him, will see his way to reconsider his decision, and if he cannot reintroduce the old system he might at least ask the men to volunteer for these duties.
§ Sir J. D. REESI see in the items for Hyde Park amounts of £2,600 and £1,200 for the erection of stables, stores, and offices. I hope that does not imply any new erections or any encroachment upon the green space of the Park.
Mr. BENNIn reply to the hon. Member for St. Pancras (Mr. Cassel) I may say that those labourers earn 4s. 6d. per day, and after five years' service 4s. 8d. per day. It is the practice in Regent's Park for the men to work seven days instead of six, and they earn 4s. 8d. per day, or about 32s. per week, instead of 28s. That change was made with the consent, if not at the wish, of the men themselves. I am quite willing to accept the hon. Member's statement that some of these men are not satisfied.
§ Mr. CASSELI can supply the hon. Member with their written statement.
Mr. BENNI do not doubt the hon. Member's statement, and I will arrange that some inquiry shall be made by the proper officers, and if it appears that there is any hardship steps will be taken to readjust matters. The matter shall be inquired into. The hon. Member for East Nottingham (Sir J. D. Rees) asked me a question about the erection of stables and stores in Hyde Park. By erecting these buildings the Army and Navy save the expense of a wharf on the riverside; therefore we are making an economy by erecting these new buildings, which I can assure the hon. Gentleman will not encroach upon any part of the Park used by the public.
§ Sir J. D. REESBut these buildings will be built on space which is now grass.
Mr. BENNNo, Sir. These are new buildings being erected in the place of some old buildings, and I am informed that they will take even less space than the old buildings.
Mr. WILLIAM REDMONDI wish to ask if the hon. Member has received any representations with regard to the rate of pay and the hours worked by the gardeners and others employed in Kew Gardens? I have myself received some representations upon the subject, and I shall be glad if the hon. Gentleman could say when the scale of pay was last revised, and exactly what the hours of labour are. I remember a year or two ago this question was brought up in the House, and, as well as I can remember; a promise was given that it would receive careful consideration. I have not acquainted myself with the details, but I have received some representations which cause uneasiness from the fact that they appear to disclose that the hours of labour and the scale of pay are such as ought not to prevail in a public institution of this kind. There is hardly any place which excites so much interest to the general public as Kew Gardens. They are quite unique and give the greatest possible pleasure to the general public. I think it would be an unfortunate thing and quite a pity if the great pleasure the public derive from Kew Gardens was interfered with by a sort of lingering indefinite idea that those employed were not satisfied with the conditions of their labour and pay.
§ Mr. SPEAKERThat question does not arise under this Vote. There is nothing in the Vote before the House for Kew Gardens.
Mr. W. REDMONDI thought perhaps the hon. Member in charge of the Vote would like to deal with this question.
§ Mr. SPEAKERThis question comes under the Vote of the Board of Agriculture.
§ Lord A. THYNNEI do not know whether the hon. Gentleman in charge of this Vote can make any authoritative statement as to the actual damage which was done during the recent unfortunate occurrences at Kew. I am not referring so much to the burning of the structure. The Vote I refer to deals with the Royal Botanical Gardens, Kew. It is an item of £10,000 for maintenance and repair. I am not referring to the damage done to the structure, but to the damage done to a very valuable collection of orchids.
§ Mr. SPEAKERI am afraid that question comes under the Board of Agriculture Vote.
§ Lord A. THYNNEWith regard to Regent's Park and Hyde Park in particular, I think the hon. Gentleman in charge of the Vote was very sympathetic during the Committee stage with regard to giving further facilities for children playing in Regent's Park and Hyde Park. I hope the hon. Gentleman will now be able to announce to the House that since the Committee stage he has seen his way to grant still further facilities for children, playing in those parks. I raise this question, not from any want of appreciation of the facilities which have already been granted, or of the generous way in which the Office of Works have in the past, and especially recently, tried to meet the needs of the children of London in this matter. I also hope that the hon. Member will be able to assure the House that he has given attention to a matter which was raised last year relating to the appointment of an expert forester to look after the trees in public parks of London. In a Debate on this Vote last year the hon. Member was unable to accept the view put forward by some hon. Members of this House who have given a special study to this subject of arboriculture. Those who have devoted a considerable amount of attention to this question feel that a very great deal might still be done in regard to this question, especially in Hyde Park and in Regent's Park, to bring matters a little more up to date in the matter of forestry. Whenever this question is mentioned by people who take an interest in it in terms of praise, they always quote Kensington Gardens. Everybody on both sides of the House will admit that Kensington Gardens stand by themselves. They are infinitely the best portion of the Royal Parks, and the population of London take the most pleasure in them; but there is no reason why Hyde Park and Regent's Park should not be brought up to the standard of Kensington Gardens, and also of Battersea Park. It only requires a little more attention from the Office of Works. I feel sure that if we had a little more expert attention these matters we should be able not only to improve the number and quality of the trees in the park, but also that things might be done in other directions.
Hon. Members are no doubt acquainted with the lake in St. James's Park, and they must have been struck with the very naked character of the borders of that lake. 1989 I venture to say that if the lake were in the hands of private ownership, a man who really cared about such things, bulrushes, iris, and plants of a similar nature would be grown on its borders. It is no answer to say that the lake has got a cement bottom. It would be quite possible to arrange for an adequate margin between the edge of the cement with which the lake is lined and the actual bank to allow for the growing of bulrushes, iris, and plants of a similar nature. There is one other point on which I hope the lion. Member will be able to make some statement, and that is with regard to the statue by Mons. Rodin for which alternative sites are being considered. I understand that sites have been proposed not only in the precincts of Government offices and the Palace of Westminster but also in the Royal Parks, and I hope that the hon. Member will be able to make some definite statement as to which site is most likely to be accepted. Personally, I can imagine that instead of placing the statue within the precincts of the Palace of Westminster it might be found more suitable to place it in one of the Royal Parks. In any case, I would urge upon the hon. Member to give an assurance to the House that whatever site is chosen, whether it is in Regent's Park, Hyde Park, or in St. James's Park, it will only be chosen with the full concurrence of the artist who is responsible for the statue. I feel that whatever expert opinion there may be in the Office of Works as to the choice of a site for a particular Statute there is no opinion that ought to carry greater weight than the artist responsible for its creation. I hope, therefore, that the hon. Member will be able to assure us that M. Rodin has been consulted and that he has given his full approval of the site chosen.
§ Colonel LOCKWOODI wish to refer to a point which has been raised by the hon. Member for Clare (Mr. W. Redmond) about Kew. On page 10 of the Estimate there is an item, £10,123 for maintenance and repairs, and I presume that includes wages.
§ Mr. SPEAKERI understand that the buildings at Kew are under the charge of the Office of Works, but that the general work which is carried on there, the salaries which are paid to the labourers, and the care of the plants, orchids, and so on, are under the Board of. Agriculture.
Mr. W. REDMONDThere is on page 10 a small £350 for salaries, and I 1990 thought that on that item the question could be raised.
§ Mr. SPEAKERThat is evidently not the salaries of the gardeners. It would not go round. It must be the salary of the superintendent of the buildings.
§ Colonel LOCKWOODMight I ask the hon. Member representing the Board of Works whether eventually there will be sufficient money to spare in the Department for the increased lighting of the public parks in the evening? He is well aware that since the centre walk in Hyde Park was illuminated it has been possible for respectable people to walk down there at night, and it is quite evident that any increased lighting of the parks must mean an increased enjoyment to respectable people of the parks in the evening. I know it is an expensive matter, but I am quite certain that it would add to the enjoyment of people, because in a hot summer like that of two years ago a public park such as Hyde Park is a very enjoyable place of recreation in the evening. It is absolutely impossible for respectable people to enjoy a walk in the park where there is no light because of the presence of persons of a shady character, who, I would remind the hon. Member, cause the authorities a great amount of extra work. There is another thing I would venture suggest. At present there are no means of shelter anywhere in Hyde Park in case of sudden rain. Abroad you always find a shelter into which people can get to escape from sudden rain. It is perfectly easy, by leaving the front or the side open, to prevent the use of the shelter for any purpose except that for which it is intended.
§ Sir F. BANBURYI am not quite sure that I altogether agree with my Noble Friend about St. James's Park. I do not pretend to have that artistic knowledge which my Noble Friend and my right hon. Friend have, but I must say that anything prettier to my mind than the lake in St. James's Park it is difficult to conceive. I think that it is excellent in every kind of way, and I take the opportunity whenever I have a few moments free from attending to my duties in this House to go and walk round that bit of lake, because I think it is extremely nice. I am sorry that on these occasions I do not quite see eye-to-eye with my Noble Friend. He spoke about some statue which he thought ought to be put up in some park. My own idea is that it is a great mistake to fill the parks 1991 with statues. I am a great lover of the country and of green trees and grass, and I do not want to see statues in the parks.
Mr. BENNI was asked a question about the damage at Kew. I am sorry that I cannot give the exact figure, but it is in the neighbourhood of £1,000. The wages to which the hon. Member for Clare referred are those of foremen and workmen employed in the upkeep of the buildings and not of the park-keepers. The question of the park-keepers, as Mr. Speaker has said, does not arise on this Vote. The Noble Lord asked a question about the extension of facilities for organised games for children in the parks. During the course of this year, probably since the Committee stage, extended facilities have been given in Kensington Gardens, and, should he desire it, I shall be very glad to give him in answer to a question a full statement as to what facilities are given and how far they have been extended. He is quite right in saying that the First Commissioner is very sympathetic and anxious, so far as it can be done consistently with the comfort and convenience of the public using the parks, to extend the facilities for these organised games. The Noble Lord had some criticism to make of the attention paid to afforestry in the Royal Parks and also as to the amenities in St. James's Park. With regard to St. James's Park, I think I may leave the answer of the hon. Baronet, being unable to add anything to it; but, with regard to the question of afforestry,
§ I may say that we have the very best experts to advise us, and, if Kensington Gardens are better than the other parks, it is because, being a forest, they started better many years ago. It is only natural to suppose that advantage will be continuous. The right hon. Gentleman the Member for the Epping Division made suggestions with regard to the lighting of and the provision of shelters in the parks, and these I am sure will be taken into consideration in the preparation of next year's Estimates. With regard to the statue to the Burghers of Calais, I may inform the Noble Lord that M. Rodin recently visited this country and was asked as to the best position for the statue. But a definite decision has not yet been arrived at.
§ Lord A. THYNNEWhat site did he suggest?
Mr. BENNHe was shown several sites, but I think the Noble Lord had better wait till a decision is come to, and if he disagrees he can say so.
§ Question put, "That the House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolution."
§ The House divided: Ayes, 232; Noes, 196.
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| Abraham, William (Dublin, Harbour) | Chancellor, H. G. | Esslemont, George Birnie |
| Acland, Francis Dyke | Chapple, Dr. William Allen | Falconer, J. |
| Addison, Dr. C. | Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston S. | Farrell, James Patrick |
| Adkins, Sir W. Ryland D. | Clancy, John Joseph | Fenwick, Rt. Hon. Charles |
| Agnew, Sir George William | Clough, William | Ffrench, Peter |
| Alden, Percy | Collins, Godfrey P. (Greenock) | Field, William |
| Allen, Arthur A. (Dumbarton) | Compton-Rickett, Rt. Hon. Sir J. | Fitzgibbon, John |
| Arnold, Sydney | Condon, Thomas Joseph | Flavin, Michael Joseph |
| Baker, Harold T. (Accrington) | Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. | George, Rt. Hon. David Lloyd |
| Balfour, Sir Robert (Lanark) | Cotton, William Francis | Gill, A. H. |
| Baring, Sir Godfrey (Barnstaple) | Craig, Herbert J. (Tynemouth) | Ginnell, Laurence |
| Barran, Rowland Hurst (Leeds, N.) | Crooks, William | Gladstone, W. G. C. |
| Beale, Sir William Phipson | Crumley, Patrick | Glanville, H. J. |
| Beck, Arthur Cecil | Cullinan, John | Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford |
| Benn, W. W. (T. Hamlets, St. George) | Davies, Timothy (Lincs., Louth) | Goldstone, Frank |
| Birrell, Rt. Hon. Augustine | Delany, William | Greenwood, Granville G. (Peterborough) |
| Boland, John Pius | Denman, Hon. Richard Douglas | Greenwood, Hamar (Sunderland) |
| Booth, Frederick Handel | Devlin, Jeseph | Greig, Colonel James William |
| Bowerman, Charles W. | Dickinson, W. H. | Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward |
| Boyle, Daniel (Maya, North) | Dillon, John | Griffith, Ellis Jones |
| Brady, P. J. | Donelan, Captain A. | Guest, Hon. Frederick E. (Dorset, E.) |
| Brunner, J. F. L. | Doris, William | Hackett, John |
| Buckmaster, Stanley O. | Duffy, William J. | Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose) |
| Burke, E. Haviland- | Duncan, J. Hastings (Yorks, Otley | Harmsworth, Cecil (Luton, Beds) |
| Buxton, Noel (Norfolk, North) | Edwards, Sir Francis (Radnor) | Harvey, T. E. (Leeds, West) |
| Buxton, Rt. Hon. Sydney C. (Poplar) | Elverston, Sir Harold | Haslam, Lewis (Monmouth) |
| Byles, Sir William Pollard | Esmonde, Dr. John (Tipperary, N.) | Hayden, John Patrick |
| Carr-Gomm, H. W. | Esmonde, Sir Thomas (Wexford, N.) | Hayward, Evan |
| Cawley, Sir Frederick (Prestwich) | Essex, Sir Richard Walter | Hazleton, Richard |
| Hemmerde, Edward George | Marshall, Arthur Harold | Redmond, William (Clare, E.) |
| Henry, Sir Charles | Mason, David M. (Coventry) | Redmond, William Archer (Tyrone, E.) |
| Herbert, General Sir Ivor (Mon., S.) | Masterman, Rt. Hon. C. F. G. | Richardson, Albion (Peckham) |
| Higham, John Sharp | Meagher, Michael | Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln) |
| Hobhouse, Rt. Hon. Charles E. H. | Meehan, Francis E. (Leitrim, N.) | Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford) |
| Hogg, David C. | Menzies, Sir Walter | Robertson, J. M. (Tyneside) |
| Hogge, James Myles | Molloy, Michael | Roch, Walter F. (Pembroke) |
| Holmes, Daniel Turner | Mond, Rt. Hon. Sir Alfred | Roche, Augustine (Louth) |
| Holt, Richard Durning | Money, L. G. Chiozza | Roe, Sir Thomas |
| Howard, Hon. Geoffrey | Montagu, Hon. E. S. | Rowlands, James |
| Hughes, Spencer Leigh | Mooney, John J. | Samuel, Rt. Hon. H. L. (Cleveland) |
| Isaacs, Rt. Hon. Sir Rufus | Morgan, George Hay | Samuel, J. (Stockton-on-Tees) |
| Jones, Rt. Hon. Sir D. Brynmor (Swansea) | Morrell, Philip | Scanlan, Thomas |
| Jones, Edgar (Merthyr Tydvll) | Morison, Hector | Schwann, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles E. |
| Jones, J. Towyn (Carmarthen, East) | Mortan, Alpheus Cleophas | Scott, A. MacCallum (Glas., Bridgeton) |
| Jones, Leif Stratten (Notts, Rushcliffe) | Muldoon, John | Seely, Rt. Hon. Colonel J. E. B. |
| Jones, William (Carnarvonshire) | Neilson, Francis | Sheehy, David |
| Jones, William S. Glyn- (Stepney) | Nolan, Joseph | Shortt, Edward |
| Jowett, Frederick William | Norton, Captain Cecil W. | Smith, Albert (Lancs., Clitheroe) |
| Joyce, Michael | Nugent, Sir Walter Richard | Soames, Arthur Wellesley |
| Keating, Matthew | Nuttall, Harry | Sutton, John E. |
| Kellaway, Frederick George | O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) | Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe) |
| Kelly, Edward | O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.) | Taylor, Thomas (Bolton) |
| Kennedy, Vincent Paul | O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) | Tennant, Harold John |
| Kilbride, Denis | O'Doherty, Philip | Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton) |
| King, Joseph | O'Dowd, John | Thorne, William (West Ham) |
| Lambert, Rt. Hon. G. (Devon, S. Molton) | O'Kelly, Edward P. (Wicklow, W.) | Trevelyan, Charles Philips |
| Lambert, Richard (Wilts, Cricklade) | O'Malley, William | Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander |
| Lardner, James C. R. | O'Shaughnessy, P. J. | Walton, Sir Joseph |
| Law, Hugh A. (Donegal, West) | O'Shee, James John | Ward, John (Stoke-upon-Trent) |
| Lawson, Sir W. (Cumb'rld, Cockerm'th) | O'Sullivan, Timothy | Wardle, George J. |
| Leach, Charles | Palmer, Godfrey Mark | Waring, Walter |
| Levy, Sir Maurice | Parker, James (Halifax) | Warner, Sir Thomas Courtenay |
| Lewis, Rt. Hon. John Herbert | Parry, Thomas H. | Wason, Rt. Hon. E. (Clackmannan) |
| Low, Sir Frederick (Norwich) | Pearce, William (Limehouse) | Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney) |
| Lundon, Thomas | Philipps, Colonel Ivor (Southampton) | Webb, H. |
| Lyell, Charles Henry | Phillips, John (Longtord, S.) | White, J. Dundas (Glasgow, Tradeston) |
| Lynch, A. A. | Pointer, Joseph | White, Patrick (Meath, North) |
| Macdonald, J. Ramsay (Leicester) | Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H. | Whitehouse, John Howard |
| Macdonald, J. M. (Falkirk Burghs) | Price, C. E. (Edinburgh, Central) | Williams, John (Glamorgan) |
| McGhee, Richard | Priestley, Sir W. E. B. (Bradford, E.) | Williams, Llewelyn (Carmarthen) |
| Maclean, Donald | Primrose, Hon. Neil James | Williamson, Sir A. |
| Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J. | Pringle, William M. R. | Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton) |
| MacVeagh, Jeremiah | Radford, G. H. | Wood, Rt. Hon, T. McKinnon (Glasgow) |
| M'Callum, Sir John M. | Raffan, Peter Wilson | Young, William (Perthshire, East) |
| McKenna, Rt. Hon. Reginald | Raphael, Sir Herbert H. | Yoxall, Sir James Henry |
| M'Laren, Hon. H. D. (Lelcs.) | Rea, Rt. Hon. Russell (South Shields) | |
| M'Micking, Major Gilbert | Reddy, Michael | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr. |
| Manfield, Harry | Redmond, John E. (Waterford) | Illingworth and Mr. Gulland. |
| Marks, Sir George Croydon | ||
| NOES | ||
| Amery, L. C. M. S. | Campion, W. R. | Fisher, Rt. Hon. W. Hayes |
| Anson, Rt. Hon. Sir William R. | Cassel, Felix | Fitzroy, Hon. E. A. |
| Anstruther-Gray, Major Willlam | Cator, John | Flannery, Sir J. Fortescue |
| Archer-Shee, Major M. | Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) | Fleming, Valentine |
| Ashley, Wilfrid W. | Cecil, Lord R. (Herts, Hitchin) | Fletcher, John Samuel (Hampstead) |
| Astor, Waldorf | Chaloner, Colonel R. G. W. | Forster, Henry Willlam |
| Baird, J. L. | Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. J. A. (Worc'r., E.) | Gastrell, Major W. Houghton |
| Baker, Sir Randolf L. (Dorset, N.) | Chaplin, Rt. Hon. Henry | Gibbs, G. A. |
| Baldwin, Stanley | Clay, Captain H. H. Spender | Gilmour, Captain John |
| Baring, Maj. Hon. Guy V. (Winchester) | Clive, Captain Percy Archer | Glazebrook, Captaln Philip K. |
| Barlow, Montague (Salford, South) | Coates, Major Sir Edward Feetham | Goldman, C. S. |
| Barnston, Harry | Cooper, Richard Ashmole | Goldsmith, Frank |
| Bathurst, Hon. A. B. (Glouc., E.) | Courthope, George Loyd | Gordon, Hon. John Edward (Brighton) |
| Bathurst, Charles (Wilts, Wilton) | Craig, Ernest (Cheshire, Crewe) | Goulding, Edward Alfred |
| Beach, Hon. Michael Hugh Hicks | Craig, Norman (Kent, Thanet) | Grant, J. A. |
| Benn, Arthur Shirley (Plymouth) | Craik, Sir Henry | Greene, W. R. |
| Bentinck, Lord H. Cavendish- | Crichton-Stuart, Lord Ninian | Guinness, Hon. Rupert (Essex, S.E.) |
| Beresford, Lord C. | Cripps, Sir C. A. | Gwynne, R. S. (Sussex, Eastbourne) |
| Bigland, Alfred | Croft, H. P. | Haddock, George Bahr |
| Bird, Alfred | Dairymple, Viscount | Hall, Frederick (Dulwich) |
| Blair, Reginald | Denison-Pender, J. C. | Hall, Marshall (E. Toxteth) |
| Boscawen, Sir Arthur S. T. Griffith- | Denniss, E. R. B. | Hamersley, Alfred St. George |
| Boyle, William (Norfolk, Mid) | Dixon, C. H. | Hamilton, Lord C. J. (Kensington, S.) |
| Boyton, James | Doughty, Sir George | Hardy, Rt. Hon. Laurence |
| Brassey, H. Leonard Campbell | Du Cros, Arthur Philip | Harris, Henry Percy |
| Bridgeman, W. Clive | Duke, Henry Edward | Henderson, Major H. (Berks, Abingdon) |
| Bull, Sir William James | Eyres-Monsell, Bolton M. | Hewins, William Albert Samuel |
| Burdett-Coutts, W. | Faber, George Denison (Clapham) | Hibbert, Sir Henry F. |
| Burgoyne, A. H. | Faber, Captain W. V. (Hants, W.) | Hickman, Colonel Thomas E. |
| Burn, Colonel C. R. | Falle, Bertram Godfray | Hills, John Waller |
| Butcher, John George | Fell, Arthur | Hill-Wood, Samuel |
| Campbell, Captain Duncan F. (Ayr, N.) | Finlay, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert | Hoare, S. J. G. |
| Hope, James Fitzalan (Sheffield) | Mount, William Arthur | Spear, Sir John Ward |
| Hope, Major J. A. (Midlothian) | Neville, Reginald J. N. | Stanler, Beville |
| Horne, E. (Surrey, Guildford) | Newdegate, F. A. | Stanley, Hon. G. F. (Preston) |
| Houston, Robert Paterson | Newman, John R. P. | Starkey, John Ralph |
| Hume-Williams, William Ellis | Nicholson, William G. (Petersfield) | Staveley-Hill, Henry |
| Hunt, Rowland | Orde-Powlett, Hon. W. G. A. | Steel-Maitland, A. D. |
| Hunter, Sir Charles Rodk. | Ormsby-Gore, Hon. William | Stewart, Gershom |
| Ingleby, Holcombe | Paget, Americ Hugh | Strauss, Arthur (Paddington, North) |
| Jackson, Sir John | Parker, Sir Gilbert (Gravesend) | Sykes, Alan John (Ches., Knutsford) |
| Jardine, Ernest (Somerset, East) | Parkes, Ebenezer | Terrell, George (Wilts, N.W.) |
| Jessel, Captain Herbert M. | Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlington) | Terrell, Henry (Gloucester) |
| Kerry, Earl of | Peel, Lieut.-Colonel R. F. | Touche, George Alexander |
| Keswick, Henry | Perkins, Walter Frank | Tryon, Captain George Clement |
| Kinloch-Cooke, Sir clement | Peto, Basil Edward | Walker, William Hall |
| Knight, Captain Eric Ayshford | Pollock, Ernest George | Walrond, Hon. Lionel |
| Lane-Fox. G. R. | Pretyman, Ernest George | Ward, A. S. (Herts, Watford) |
| Larmor, Sir J. | Quilter, Sir William Eley C. | Warde, Colonel C. E. (Kent, Mid) |
| Law, Rt. Hon. A. Bonar (Bootle) | Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel | Weigall, Captain A. G. |
| Lawson, Hon. H. (T. H'mts, Mile End) | Rawson, Colonel Richard H. | Weston, Colonel J. W. |
| Lee, Arthur H. | Rees, Sir J. D. | Wheler, Granville C. H. |
| Lewisham, Viscount | Remnant, James Farquharson | White, Major G. D. (Lancs., Southport) |
| Lloyd, George Ambrose (Stafford, W.) | Rolleston, Sir John | Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset, W.) |
| Lloyd, George Butler (Shrewsbury) | Ronaldshay, Earl of | Willoughby, Major Hon. Claud |
| Locker-Lampson, G. (Salisbury) | Rothschild, Lionel de | Wills, Sir Gilbert |
| Locker-Lampson, O. (Ramsey) | Royds, Edmund | Winterton, Earl |
| Lockwood, Rt. Hon. Lieut.-Colonel A. R. | Rutherford, John (Lancs., Darwen) | Wolmer, Viscount |
| Lowe, Sir F. W. (Birm., Edgbaston) | Salter, Arthur Clavell | Worthington-Evans, L. |
| Lyttelton, Hon. J. C. (Droitwich) | Samuel, Sir Harry (Norwood) | Wright, Henry Fitzherbert |
| Macmaster, Donald | Sanders, Robert Arthur | Yate, Colonel C. E. |
| M'Neill, Ronald (Kent, St. Augustine's) | Sanderson, Lancelot | Yerburgh, Robert A. |
| Magnus, Sir Philip | Sassoon, Sir Philip | Younger, Sir George |
| Malcolm, Ian | Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.) | |
| Meysey-Thompson, E. C. | Smith, Rt. Hon. F. E. (L'pool, Walton) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Sir |
| Mildmay, Francis Bingham | Smith, Harold (Warrington) | F. Banbury and Lord A. Thynne. |
| Mills, Hon. Charles Thomas |
Question put, and agreed to.