HC Deb 12 June 1913 vol 53 cc1760-2
11. Mr. O'DONNELL

asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland whether the Grant of £40,000 for secondary education promised for last year will still be available; and, if not, will the Grant for future years be increased so as to recoup Ireland for the loss she has suffered?

The CHIEF SECRETARY for IRELAND (Mr. Birrell)

I should be sorry to say that this Grant was not available. I certainly cannot hold out hopes that it will be increased.

12. Mr. O'DONNELL

asked the Chief Secretary when he proposes to give the House of Commons an opportunity of discussing the delay in making the promised Grant of £44,000 per annum towards secondary education in Ireland?

Mr. BIRRELL

I quite recognise that this matter cannot stand over much longer, and as soon as ever a decision has been arrived at I will inform the House what it is. As to an opportunity for discussion I cannot answer.

13. Mr. O'DONNELL

asked the Chief Secretary when the Grant of £40,000 per annum for secondary education in Ireland was first promised; whether he will lay upon the Table of the House a copy of the conditions then suggested; and will he explain the cause of the delay and the loss which Ireland has suffered?

Mr. BIRRELL

I stated in the House on the 31st July last that the Chancellor of the Exchequer had agreed to allow me to have this sum of £40,000 for the improvement of the position of secondary teachers in Ireland, to be distributed in a way to be settled by me in consultation with the proper authorities in Ireland. A draft scheme for the distribution of the Grant was published in the "Times" and in the Irish newspapers on the 10th September last, where anyone who wishes can see it. I am still in communication with educational authorities in Ireland as to the details of the scheme, and no useful purpose will be served by laying a copy of the original draft on the Table of the House.

Mr. O'DONNELL

Is it a fact that as a result of the opposition Ireland has lost £40,000 already?

Mr. BIRRELL

The matter is still under very careful discussion, and I am still hopeful to be able very soon to inform the House that a satisfactory agreement has been come to whereby this very considerable sum of money would be secured for the purpose named, but at the present moment it is in peril.

Mr. O'DONNELL

Can the right hon. Gentleman give any hope that an arrangement will be come to within a reasonable time, because we have already waited twelve months, and we should not be asked to wait any longer?

Mr. BIRRELL

I cannot expect the House or anybody else to be content not to know what has happened, and therefore I hope very shortly, in a few days or weeks, to be able to say that. I am fully alive to the importance of the matter.