HC Deb 11 June 1913 vol 53 cc1614-5
41. Major HOPE

asked the Secretary to the Treasury if he can give the names of those approved societies in Scotland one of which an, agricultural labourer should join if he wishes to receive any sickness benefit, under the National Insurance Act, in the event of his being taken ill after completing one hour's work on a Wednesday morning and being unable, through illness, to resume work until the following Monday morning?

The FINANCIAL SECRETARY to the TREASURY (Mr. Masterman)

As I stated in reply to the hon. and gallant Member on 9th June, the decision of a society in cases of the character to which he refers depends upon the society's rules and the circumstances of the individual case. I am, therefore, unable to give a general indication of the view which would be taken by societies in these cases. In any case, I have always refused, I believe with the approval of the House, to recommend any special approved societies for insured persons to join.

Major HOPE

Does the right hon. Gentleman admit that a farm labourer may be ill for five whole days and not be entitled to one penny of sick benefit?

Mr. MASTERMAN

I do not think I have made an admission of any sort or description.

Major HOPE

I ask whether a farm labourer may be ill for some days without receiving a single penny of benefit?

Mr. MASTERMAN

The hon. and gallant Gentleman must either put a question down or explain it in some other fashion.

Major HOPE

I asked this question previously, and I was told to put it down in a definite form, and I have now done so.

Mr. MASTERMAN

If the hon. Member will give me an example, I shall be very glad to deal with it.