HC Deb 13 January 1913 vol 46 cc1664-5
56. Mr. DOUGLAS HALL

asked the Home Secretary whether the habitual criminals detained in Camp Hill Prison receive more privileges and comforts than are allowed to poor debtors committed to prison for non-compliance with judgment summonses; and, if so, whether he can see his way to place debtors who have committed no criminal offence in a position of at least equality with these habitual criminals?

Mr. McKENNA

The two cases do not admit of comparison. The principles affecting the treatment of prisoners committed for a period of days or weeks for the purpose of enforceing the payment of debts have no bearing upon those which should regulate the treatment of convicts confined for a period of years for preventive purposes after they have served a term of penal servitude. If the two classes of prisoners were treated alike, debtors would have to begin serving their sentences under the conditions imposed by penal servitude.

Mr. DOUGLAS HALL

Is it not the fact that the one is a notorious criminal and the other has committed no criminal offence at all?

Mr. McKENNA

Yes; but the notorious criminals have already been punished by a period of penal servitude, and it was only after they have served that punishment that they come under the provisions applicable to preventive detention.

Mr. DOUGLAS HALL

Why cannot a debtor have such things as shaving-water?

Mr. McKENNA

If a debtor goes through a period of penal servitude, he will subsequently have all the amenities which the hon. Gentleman thinks attach to preventive detention; but it would be unfair to put a debtor in the first instance under the conditions of penal servitude.