HC Deb 11 February 1913 vol 48 cc754-6

Order for Committee read.

The following notices of Motion appeared upon the Order Paper:—

Mr. MORTON

"That it be an Instruction to the Committee that they have power to consider the desirability of making provision for requiring railway companies to provide sleeping accommodation for third-class passengers on all trains on which sleeping accommodation is provided."

Sir A. MARKHAM

"That it be an Instruction to the Committee to consider the desirability of requiring railway companies to separate their trading accounts so that the approximate cost of dealing with passengers, goods, and mineral traffic, respectively, can be ascertained by the public."

Sir WILLIAM PRIESTLEY

"That it be an Instruction to the Committee to consider the desirability of requiring railway companies to separate their trading accounts so as to enable traders and others interested to ascertain if one branch of trade is being charged for the increment cost of working other branches of trade."

Mr. PETO

"That it be an Instruction to the Committee that it be a condition precedent to putting in operation the provisions as to increased rates that every increased rate which includes conveyance and station terminals has been shown in the book of rates kept by a company under Section 14 of the Regulation of Railways Act, 1873, as a station to station rate, and that there has been included in the matters shown in the said book of rates a statement setting out the separate amounts charged for the station accommodation provided, and for each of the several services performed by the company as part of the increased rate."

Mr. GEORGE TERRELL

"That it be an Instruction to the Committee that they be empowered to limit the operation of the Bill as to increases of rates or charges by railway companies to increases of the rates or charges on goods imported from abroad and on minerals."

Mr. C. BATHURST

"That it be an Instruction to the Committee that provision shall be made for the taking into consideration of the element of economy, as well as of increased cost due to improvements made in the conditions of employment in the staff of any railway company, in deciding whether an increase of rate or charge is justified."

Mr. SPEAKER

The first Instruction standing in the name of the hon. Member for Sutherland (Mr. Morton) proposes to insert provisions in the Bill in order to provide sleeping accommodation for third-class passengers, and that is beyond the scope of this Bill.

Mr. MORTON

May I point out that on the Second Reading the House discussed railway nationalisation, railway accounts and other matters connected with third-class passengers, and I wish to know why I am precluded from dealing with the same questions?

Mr. SPEAKER

I cannot go back on the Second Reading. I have only to deal now with the Instructions as they appear on the Paper. To insert now any Clause dealing with third-class sleepers is quite irrelevant to the subject-matter of this Bill.

Mr. MORTON

You stopped me discussing this question on the Second Reading.

Mr. SPEAKER

As I have already pointed out, you cannot go back upon the Debate on the Second Reading, and I am now dealing with the Instructions on the Paper. If the hon. Member objected to anything I said on the Second Reading he should have raised it then. The next three Instructions, standing in the names of the hon. Member for Mansfield (Sir A. Markham), the hon. Member for East Bradford (Sir W. Priestley), and the hon. Member for Devizes (Mr. Peto), are all mandatory Instructions, and therefore are out of order in Committee of the Whole House. The Instruction standing in the name of the hon. Member for Chippenham (Mr. George Terrell) proposes to limit the operation of this Bill as to increases of rates or charges by railway companies to increases of the rates or charges on goods imported from abroad and on minerals. That can be done, if the Committee think fit, by Amendment in Committee. The last Instruction, standing in the name of the hon. Member for Wilton (Mr. Charles Bathurst), is also a mandatory Instruction, and cannot be dealt with in Committee of the Whole House.

Bill considered in Committee.

[Mr. WHITLEY in the Chair.]

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  1. CLAUSE 1.—(Increased Expenditure due to Cost of Improved Labour Conditions to be treated as a Valid justification of Increased Rates.) 38,740 words, 5 divisions