HC Deb 03 February 1913 vol 47 cc1774-5
36. Mr. WORTHINGTON-EVANS

asked whether the boilermakers, blacksmiths, bricklayers, and stonemasons employed at Deacon's Works, Widnes, are insured under Part II. of the National Insurance Act; if not, whether the Umpire has given decisions in the cases of these men; what is the name of the firm or company employing these men; and have any letters or communications passed between the Board of Trade and the employers concerning the inclusion or exclusion of these men?

Mr. ROBERTSON

I am informed that contributions under Part II. of the National Insurance Act are not being paid in respect of the workmen referred to in the question. The Umpire has not given any decisions specifically relating to these men, but certain decisions, of which I am sending copies to the hon. Member, relate to workmen employed in works of a similar character. I understand that the name of the company employing these workmen is the United Alkali Company, Limited. No correspondence and, so far as I am aware, no other communication appears to have passed between the Board of Trade and the employers concerning the inclusion or exclusion of these men.

Mr. WORTHINGTON-EVANS

What steps does the hon. Gentleman propose to take to treat the United Alkali Company, Limited, in the same way as the employes in other firms similarly situated?

Mr. ROBERTSON

I am not aware they are being treated differently. Any representations made to the Board will be considered.

Mr. WORTHINGTON-EVANS

Is the right hon. Gentleman not aware of the Umpire's decision, No. 374, which includes these men as people open to pay the insurance?

Mr. ROBERTSON

Yes, but a great deal depends upon the nature of the work being done; the details of the work may vary. Any information the hon. Member may give will be carefully inquired into.

Mr. RUPERT GWYNNE

How can the hen. Member tell there is any difference if no inquiry has been made in the matter?

Mr. ROBERTSON

If the workmen do not apply to be enrolled it is rather difficult to get the information. The information here given will no doubt result in further inquiry.

Mr. GWYNNE

Has the inspector made further inquiry?

Mr. ROBERTSON

One must first have something to inquire about.