HC Deb 17 April 1913 vol 51 cc2109-10
41. Mr. J. WARD

asked whether the valuation of approved societies having over 5,000 members in England and less than 5,000 members in Scotland and Wales will be conducted on a system which will secure to the members in Scotland and Wales not less than the minimum benefits paid to the members of the same society resident in England after the valuation?

Mr. ROBERTSON

The answer is in the negative. The English, Scottish and Welsh sections of societies having members in all three countries have each complete financial independence of each other whatever their respective numbers.

Mr. J. WARD

May we take it for granted from the hon. Gentleman's answer that there may be, after the next valuation, three scales of benefits for the different sets of members of one society?

Mr. ROBERTSON

This is the result, of course, of the decision arrived at by the House. It does not follow, as the hon. Member infers, that the English set will always have the best of it.

Mr. J. WARD

Seeing that they all pay the same, does not the hon. Gentleman think they should all receive the same, and that any regulation which prevents that is ridiculous?

Mr. ROBERTSON

It is the Act which creates four separate funds. We cannot override that.

Mr. J. WARD

Will the hon. Gentleman consider the advisability of dealing with this part of the business in the amending Bill?

Mr. ROBERTSON

I will pass on the suggestion.