HC Deb 21 October 1912 vol 42 cc1713-4
91. Lord ROBERT CECIL

asked whether any allowance at a fixed rate is made to any servants of the State, except Members of Parliament, in respect of expenses incurred by them in the discharge of their duties?

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

Expenses incurred by servants of the State in the discharge of their duties are generally borne by the Treasury.

Lord ROBERT CECIL

Will the right hon. Gentleman be good enough to answer the question whether there has ever been a case of a fixed rate to any servants of the State?

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

I really do not know of any case of the kind. Where there is any expense incurred it is invariably paid by the Treasury.

Lord ROBERT CECIL

May I ask whether any similar allowance is made to Ministers of the Crown?

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

Ministers have not claimed up to the present.

Mr. JAMES HOPE

May I ask the right hon. Gentleman if he will not facilitate the discussion of the whole question?

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

That is obviously a question which should be put to the Leader of the House.

Mr. CASSEL

May I ask whether it is the case that where expenses are not incurred by Members of Parliament they are allowed—

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

The hon.. Gentleman asked that question last week and the previous week. I gave answers at the time, and I cannot now recall the cases I then cited.

Mr. CASSEL

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that he cited no case?

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

I am aware, as a matter of fact, of absolutely the contrary.