§ 38 Mr. HOGGEasked the Secretary for Scotland (1) whether the Advisory Committee on Education was consulted about the policy of inclusive fees; and what decision they came to; (2) if My Lords claim to have any power in the internal management of the Scottish universities, and, if so, what jurisdiction do they claim, or whether he can state if their 1015 power is merely concerned with the constitution of the universities and their governing bodies; (3) the date of the meeting of My Lords where it was agreed not to increase the additional Giants to Edinburgh University unless the university adopted an inclusive fee in medicine and applied science; and (4) whether he is aware of the existence of an extra-mural I school in medicine in Edinburgh, the use fullness of which might be seriously crippled by the adoption of an inclusive fee in medicine at Edinburgh University; and whether he can say what the attitude of my Lords is towards the extra-mural schools?
Mr. McKINNON WOODThese questions of my hon. Friend all appear to be founded upon misapprehensions. I do not know what my hon. Friend means by the phrase "Advisory Committee on Education." If by the term "My Lords" my hon. Friend means the Scotch Education Department, he is mistaken in supposing that it has anything to do with the question of inclusive fees at, or with the internal management or constitution of, the Scottish universities. The other questions raised by my hon. Friend do not, therefore, arise.
§ Mr. HOGGEIs it the case that "My Lords" have refused a Grant to Scottish universities unless they will adopt an inclusive fee for medicine and applied sciences?
Mr. McKINNON WOODI would point out to my hon. Friend there are "My Lords" of the Scottish Education Committee of the Privy Council, there are "My Lords" of the Treasury, and there are other "My Lords."
Mr. MacCALLUM SCOTTCan the right hon. Gentleman say whether, before making the requisition on the Scottish universities, the Treasury consulted the Scottish Education Department?
Mr. McKINNON WOODI cannot answer a general question like that. It is a very wide question, and I would ask the 1016 hon. Member to look up the Universities (Scotland) Act, 1889, where he will learn something about the arrangement.
§ Mr. PIRIEIs it not perfectly evident, from the nature of my hon. Friend's question, that he is referring to that nebulous body, the Scottish Education Board?