HC Deb 12 December 1912 vol 45 cc761-2
59 and 61. Mr. GOLDSMITH

asked the Secretary to the Treasury (1) whether he can state the number of persons who have become voluntary insurers under the National Insurance Act; and (2) whether he can state the number of insured persons whose rate of remuneration exceeds 1s. 6d. and does not exceed 2s. a working day, and in whose case the contribution of 1d. per week is being paid out of moneys provided by Parliament?

Mr. MASTERMAN

It is impossible to give the information desired by the hon. Member until the first quarters' cards have all come in and been scheduled, a process which will still take some weeks to complete.

Mr. GOLDSMITH

Can the right hon. Gentleman state how many penny contributions are being paid by the Treasury at present in the ease of persons earning less than 12s. a week?

Mr. MASTERMAN

I cannot tell how many until the contributions have been paid, and that cannot be ascertained until the cards have been returned and sorted. That is a considerable process in dealing with 13,000,000 cards.

Mr. GOLDSMITH

Is there any contribution being paid by persons earning less than 12s. a week?

Mr. MASTERMAN

I have no knowledge of any money being paid by contributors that ought not to be paid by them. The Treasury will pay the penny in due course.

Mr. GOLDSMITH

Is it being paid now?

Mr. MASTERMAN

Nothing is being paid at present to approved societies except a certain amount for administration and sanatorium benefit. When they want the money they will have it.