HC Deb 10 December 1912 vol 45 cc357-61

(1) The Irish Parliament, shall not have power to repeal or alter any provision of this Act (except as is specially provided by this Act), or of any Act passed by the Parliament of the United Kingdom after the passing of this Act and extending to Treland, although that provision deals with a matter with respect to which the Irish Parliament have powers to make laws.

(2) Where any Act of the Irish Parliament deals with any matter with respect to which the Irish Parliament have power to make laws which is dealt with by any Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom passed after the passing of this Act and extending to Ireland, the Act of the Irish Parliament shall be read subject to

the Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom, and so far as it is repugnant to that Act, but no further, shall be void:

Provided that nothing in this Section shall affect the power of the Irish Parliament to vary an Imperial tax in accordance with this Act, or any variation so made.

(3) Any Order, Rule, or Regulation made in pursuance of, or having the force of, an Act of Parliament of the United Kingdom shall be deemed to be a provision of an Act within the meaning of this Section.

Question put, "That the Clause stand part of the Bill."

The committee divided: Ayes, 313; Noes, 190.

Division No. 410.] AYES. [8.15 p.m.
Abraham, William (Dublin, Harbour) Barnes, George N. Bryce, J. Annan
Acland, Francis Dyke Barton, William Buckmaster, Stanley O.
Adamson, William Beale, Sir William Phipson Burke, E. Haviland-
Addison, Dr. Christopher Beauchamp, Sir Edward Burns, Rt. Hon. John
Adkins, Sir W. Ryland D. Bentham, George Jackson Buxton, Rt. Hon. Sydney C. (Poplar)
Agnew, Sir George William Bethell, Sir John Henry Bytes, Sir William Pollard
Ainsworth, John Stirling Birrell, Rt. Hon. Augustine Carr-Gomm, H. W.
Allen, Arthur A. (Dumbarton) Black, Arthur W. Cawley, Sir Frederick (Prestwich)
Allen, Rt. Hon. Charles P. (Stroud) Boland, John Pius Cawley, H. T. (Heywood)
Armitage, R. Booth, Frederick Handel Chancellor, H. G.
Arnold, Sydney Bowerman, C. W. Chapple, Dr. William Allen
Asquith, Rt. Hon. Herbert Henry Boyle, Daniel (Mayo, North) Clancy, John Joseph
Atherley-Jones, Llewellyn A. Brace, William Clough, William
Baker, Harold T. (Accrington) Brady, P. J. Collins, Stephen (Lambeth)
Balfour, Sir Robert (Lanark) Brocklehurst, William B. Compton-Rickett, Rt. Hon. Sir J.
Barlow, Sir John Emmott (Somerset) Brunner, J, F, L. Condon, Thomas Joseph
Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. Hobhouse, Rt. Hon. Charles E. H. Ogden, Fred
Cotton, William Francis Hodge, John O'Grady, James
Craig, Herbert J. (Tynemouth) Hogge, James Myles O'Kelly, Edward P. (Wicklow, W.)
Crawshay-Williams, Eliot Holmes, Daniel Turner O'Malley, William
Crean, Eugene Hope, John Deans (Haddington) O'Neill, Dr. Charles (Armagh, S.)
Crooks, William Home, C. Silvester (Ipswich) O'Shaughnessy, P. J.
Crumley, Patrick Hughes, Spencer Leigh O'Shee, James John
Cullinan, John Illingworth, Percy H. O'Sullivan, Timothy
Dalziel, Rt. Hon. Sir J. H. (Kirkcaldy) Isaacs, Rt. Hon. Sir Rufus Palmer, Godfrey Mark
Davies, Ellis William (Eifion) Jardine, Sir J. (Roxburgh) Parker, James (Halifax)
Davies, Timothy (Lincs., Louth) John, Edward Thomas Pearce, Robert (Staffs, Leek)
Davies, Sir W. Howell (Bristol, S.) Jones, Edgar (Merthyr Tydvil) Pearce, William (Limehouse)
Davies, M. Vaughan- (Cardiganshire) Jones, H. Haydn (Merioneth) Pease, Rt. Hon. Joseph A. (Rotherham)
Jones, J. Towyn (Carmarthen, East) Philipps, Col. Ivor (Southampton)
Dawes, J. A. Jones, Leif Stratten (Notts, Rushcliffe) Phillips, John (Longford, S.)
De Forest, Baron Jones, William (Carnarvonshire) Pointer, Joseph
Delany, William Jones, W. S. Glyn- (T. H'mts, Stepney) Pollard, Sir George H.
Denman, Hon. R. D. Joyce, Michael Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H.
Devlin, Joseph Keating, Matthew Power, Patrick Joseph
Dickinson, W. H. Kellaway, Frederick George Price, C. E. (Edinburgh, Central)
Dillon, John Kennedy, Vincent Paul Price, Sir Robert J. (Norfolk, E.)
Donelan, Captain A. Kilbride, Denis Priestley, Sir W. E. B. (Bradford, E.)
Doris, William King, J. Primrose, Hon. Neil James
Duffy, William J. Pringle, William M. R.
Duncan, C. (Barrow-in-Furness) Lambert, Rt. Hon. G. (Devon, S. Molton) Radford, G H.
Lardner, James Carrige Rushe Raffan, Peter Wilson
Duncan, J. Hastings (York, Otley) Law, Hugh A. (Donegal, West) Rea, Rt. Hon. Russell (South Shields)
Edwards, Clement (Glamorgan, E.) Lawson, Sir W. (Cumb'rid, Cockerm'th) Reddy, M.
Edwards, Sir Francis (Radnor) Leach, Charles Redmond, John E. (Waterford)
Edwards, John Hugh (Glamorgan, Mid) Levy, Sir Maurice Redmond, William (Clare, E.)
Elverston, Sir Harold Lewis, John Herbert Redmond, William Archer (Tyrone, E.)
Esmonde, Dr. John (Tipperary, N.) Lough, Rt. Hon. Thomas Rendall, Athelstan
Esmonde, Sir Thomas (Wexford, N.) Low, Sir F. (Norwich) Richardson, Albion (Peckham)
Esslemont, George Birnie Lundon, T. Richardson, Thomas (Whitehaven)
Falconer, James Lynch, A. A. Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln)
Farrell, James Patrick Macdonald, J. Ramsay (Leicester) Roberts, G. H. (Norwich)
Fenwick, Rt. Hon. Charles Macdonald, J. M. (Falkirk Burghs) Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford)
Ferens, Rt. Hon. Thomas Robinson McGhee, Richard Robertson, John M. (Tyneside)
Ffrench, Peter Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J. Robinson, Sidney
Field, William MacNeill, J. G. Swift (Donegal, South) Roch, Walter F. (Pembroke)
Fiennes, Hon. Eustace Edward Macpherson, James Ian Roche, Augustine (Louth)
Fitzgibbon, John MacVeagh, Jeremiah Roche, John (Galway, E.)
Flavin, Michael Joseph M'Callum, Sir John M. Roe, Sir Thomas
George, Rt. Hon. D, Lloyd M'Curdy, C. A. Rowlands, James
Gilhooly, James M'Kean, John Rowntree, Arnold
Gill, A. H. McKenna, Rt. Hon. Reginald Russell, Rt. Hon. Thomas W.
Ginnell, L. M'Laren, Hon. H. D. (Leics.) Samuel, Rt. Hon. H. L. (Cleveland)
Gladstone, W. G. C. M'Laren, Hon. F.W.S. (Lincs., Spalding) Samuel, J. (Stockton-on-Tees)
Glanville, H. J. M'Micking, Major Gilbert Scan Ian, Thomas
Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford Manfield, Harry Seely, Col. Rt. Hon. J. E. B.
Goldstone, Frank Markham, Sir Arthur Basil Sheehy, David
Greenwood, Granville G. (Peterborough) Marks, Sir George Croydon Shortt, Edward
Greig, Colonel J. W. Marshall, Arthur Harold Simon, Sir John Allsebrook
Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward Martin, J. Smith, Albert (Lancs., Clitheroe)
Griffith, Ellis Jones Mason, David M. (Coventry) Smith, H. B. L. (Northampton)
Guest, Major Hon. C. H. c. (Pembroke) Masterman, Rt. Hon. C. F. G. Smyth, Thomas F. (Leitrim, S.)
Guest, Hon. Frederick E. (Dorset, E.) Meagher, Michael Snowden, Philip
Guiney, Patrick Meehan, Francis E. (Leitrim, N.) Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Gulland, John William Menzies, Sir Walter Spicer, Rt. Hon. Sir Albert
Gwynn, Stephen Lucius (Galway) Millar, James Duncan Stanley, Albert (Staffs., N. W.)
Hackett, J. Molloy, Michael Sutherland, J. E.
Hall, Frederick (Normanton) Molteno, Percy Alport Sutton, John E.
Hancock, John George Mond, Sir Alfred Moritz Taylor, John W. (Durham)
Harcourt, Rt. Hon. Lewis (Rossendale) Mooney, John J. Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe)
Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose) Worrell, Philip Taylor, Thomas (Bolton)
Hardie, J. Keir Morison, Hector Tennant, Harold John
Harmsworth, Cecil (Luton, Beds.) Morton, Alpheus Cleophas Thomas, J. H.
Harmsworth, R. L. (Caithness-shire) Muldoon, John Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton)
Harvey, A. G. C. (Rochdale) Munro, R. Toulmin, Sir George
Harvey, T. E. (Leeds, W.) Munro-Ferguson, Rt. Hon. R. C. Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Harvey, W. E. (Derbyshire, N. E.) Murray, Captain Hon. Arthur C. Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander
Haslam, James (Derbyshire) Nannetti, Joseph P. Verney, Sir Harry
Haslam, Lewis (Monmouth) Needham, Christopher Thomas Wadsworth, J.
Havelock-Allan, Sir Henry Nicholson, Sir Charles N. (Doncaster) Walsh, Stephen (Lancs., Ince)
Hayden, John Patrick Nolan, Joseph Walton, Sir Joseph
Hayward, Evan Norman, Sir Henry Ward, John (Stoke-on-Trent)
Hazleton, Richard Norton, Capt. Cecil W. Ward, W. Dudley (Southampton)
Healy, Maurice (Cork) Nugent, Sir Walter Richard Wardle, George J
Healy, Timothy Michael (Cork, N. E.) Nuttall, Harry Warner, Sir Thomas Courtenay
Helme, Sir Norval Watson O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny Wason, Rt. Hon. E. (Clackmannan)
Henderson, Arthur (Durham) O'Brien, William (Cork, N. E.) Webb, H.
Henry, Sir Charles O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) Wedgwood, Josiah C.
Herbert, Col. Sir Ivor (Mon. S.) O'Doherty, Philip White, J, Dundas (Glasgow, Tradeston)
Higham, John Sharp O'Donnell, Thomas White, Patrick (Meath, North)
Hinds, John O'Dowd, John Whittaker, Rt. Hon. Sir Thomas P.
Whyte, A. F. (Perth) Wilson, Rt. Hon. J. W. (Worcs., N.) Yoxall, Sir James Henry
Wiles, Thomas Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton)
Wilkie, Alexander Winfrey, Richard TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr.
Williams, J. (Glamorgan) Wood, Rt. Hon. T. McKinnon (Glas.) Wedgwood Benn and Mr. Geoffrey Howard.
Williams, Llewelyn (Carmarthen) Young, Samuel (Cavan, East)
Wilson, Hon. G. G. (Hull, W.) Young, William (Perth, East)
NOES.
Aitken, Sir William Max Fleming, Valentine Mildmay, Francis Bingham
Anson, Rt. Hon. Sir William R. Fletcher, John Samuel Morrison-Bell, Capt. E. F. (Ashburton)
Archer-Shee, Major Forster, Henry William Mount, William Arthur
Baird, J. L. Gardner, Ernest Newdegate, F. A.
Balcarres, Lord Gastrell, Major W. Houghton Nicholson, William G. (Petersfield)
Baldwin, Stanley Gibbs, G. A. Nield, Herbert
Banbury, Sir Frederick George Gilmour, Captain John Norton-Griffiths, J.
Baring, Maj. Hon. Guy V. (Winchester Goldman, C. S. Orde-Powlett, Hon. W. G. A.
Barlow, Montague (Salford, South) Goldsmith, Frank Parker, Sir Gilbert (Gravesend)
Barnston, H. Gordon, John (Londonderry, South) Parkes, Ebenezer
Barrie, H. T. Gordon, Hon. John Edward (Brighton) Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlington)
Bathurst, Hon. A. B. (Glouc., E.) Goulding, Edward Alfred Peel, Captain R. F. (Woodbridge)
Bathurst, C. (Wilts, Wilton) Grant, J. A. Perkins, Walter Frank
Beach, Hon. Michael Hugh Hicks Greene, W. R. Pole-Carew, Sir R
Beckett, Hon. Gervase Gretton, John Pollock, Ernest Murray
Benn, A. S. (Plymouth) Guinness, Hon. Rupert (Essex, S. E.) Pretyman, Ernest George
Bentinck, Lord H. Cavendish- Guinness. Hon. W.E. (Bury S. Edmunds) Pryce-Jones, Col. E. (M'tgom'y B'ghs.)
Bigland, Alfred Gwynne, R. S. (Sussex, Eastbourne) Quilter, Sir William Eley C.
Blair, Reginald Hall, Fred (Dulwich) Randles, Sir John S.
Boles, Lieut.-Col. Dennis Fortescue Hambro, Angus Valdemar Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel
Boyle, William (Norfolk, Mid) Hamilton, Lord C. J. (Kensington, S.) Rawson, Col. R. H.
Boyton, James Harris, Henry Percy Remnant, James Farquharson
Brassey, H. Leonard Campbell Harrison-Broadley, H. B. Roberts, S. (Sheffield, Ecclcsall)
Bridgeman, W. Clive Henderson, Major H. (Berks, Abingdon) Rolleston, Sir John
Bull, Sir William James Herbert, Hon. A. (Somerset, S.) Rothschild, Lionel de
Burgoyne, A. H. Hewins, William Albert Samuel Royds, Edmund
Burn, Colonel C. R. Hickman, Colonel Thomas E. Rutherford, Watson (L'pool, W. Derby)
Butcher, John George Hill, Sir Clement L. Salter, Arthur Clavell
Campbell, Rt. Hon. J. (Dublin Univ.) Hills, John Waller Samuel, Sir Harry (Norwood)
Carlile, Sir Edward Hildred Hill-Wood, Samuel Sanders, Robert A.
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward H. Hoare, S. J. G. Sanderson, Lancelot
Cassel, Felix Hohler, G. F. Smith, Rt. Hon. F. E. (L'p'l, Walton)
Castlereagh, Viscount Hope, Harry (Bute) Smith, Harold (Warrington)
Cave, George Hope, James Fitzalan (Sheffield) Spear, Sir John Ward
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Hope, Major J. A. (Midlothian) Stanley, Hon. G. F. (Preston)
Cecil, Lord Hugh (Oxford University) Home, Wm. E. (Surrey, Guildford) Staveley-Hill, Henry (Staffordshire)
Steel-Maitland, A. D.
Cecil, Lord R. (Herts, Hitchin) Houston, Robert Paterson Stewart, Gershom
Chaloner, Col. R. G. W. Ingleby, Holcombe Strauss, Arthur (Paddington, North)
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. J. A. (Worc'r.) Jardine, Ernest (Somerset, E.) Swift, Rigby
Chambers, James Jessel, Capt. H. M. Sykes, Alan J. (Knutsford)
Clay, Captain H. H. Spender Joynson-Hicks, William Talbot, Lord E.
Clive, Captain Percy Archer Kerr-Smiley, Peter Kerr Terrell, G. (Wilts, N. W.)
Coates, Major Sir Edward Feetham Kerry, Earl of Terrell, H. (Gloucester)
Cooper, Richard Ashtnole Kimber, Sir Henry Thompson, Robert (Belfast, North)
Craig, Charles Curtis (Antrim, S.) Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement Thomson, W. Mitchell- (Down, N.)
Craig, Captain James (Down, E.) Knight, Captain Eric Ayshford Tobin, Alfred Aspinall
Craig, Norman (Kent, Thanet) Larmor, Sir J. Touche, George Alexander
Craik, Sir Henry Law, Rt. Hon. A. Bonar (Bootle) Tryon, Capt. George Clement
Crichton-Stuart, Lord Ninian Lawson, Hon. H. (T. H'mts, Mile End) Tullibardine, Marquess of
Croft, Henry Page Lewrsham, Viscount Valentia, Viscount
Dalziel, D. (Brixton) Lloyd, George Ambrose Walrond, Hon. Lionel
Denniss, E. R. B. Locker-Lampson, G. (Salisbury) Williams, Col. R. (Dorset, W.)
Dickson, Rt. Hon. C. Scott Lockwood, Rt. Hon. Lt.-Col. A. R. Willoughby, Major Hon. Claud
Dixon, C. H. Lonsdale, Sir J. Brownlee Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E. R.)
Doughty, Sir George Lowe, Sir F. W. (Birm., Edgbaston) Wood, Hon. E. F. L. (Ripon)
Duke, Henry Edward Lyttelton, Rt. Hon. A. (S. Geo. Han. S.) Wood, John (Stalybridge)
Eyres-Monsell, Bolton M. Lyttelton, Hon. J. C. (Droitwich) Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart-
Faber, George Denison (Clapham) MacCaw, Wm. J. MacGeagh Wright, Henry Fitzherbert
Falle, B. G. Mackinder, Halford J. Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Fell, Arthur M'Neill, Ronald (Kent, St. Augustine's) Yate, Col. Charles Edward
Fetherstonhaugh, Godfrey Malcolm, Ian Younger, Sir George
Finlay, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert Mason, James F. (Windsor)
Fisher, Rt. Hon. W. Hayes Meysey-Thompson, E. C. TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Mr.
Fitzroy, Hon. Edward A. Middlemore, John Throgmorton Mills and Sir Gilbert Wills.
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