HC Deb 04 December 1912 vol 44 cc2385-9

(1) Where any decision of the Court of Appeal in Ireland involves the decision of any question as to the validity of any law made by the Irish Parliament, and the decision is not otherwise subject to an appeal to His Majesty the King in Council, an appeal shall lie to His Majesty the King in Council by virtue of this Section, but only by leave of the Court of Appeal or His Majesty.

(2) Where any decision of a Court in Ireland involves the decision of any question as to the validity of any law made by the Irish Parliament, and the decision is not subject to any appeal to the Court of Appeal in Ireland, an appeal shall lie to the Court of Appeal in Ireland by virtue of this Section.

Question put, "That this Clause be added to the Bill."

The Committee divided: Ayes, 310; Noes, 181.

Division No. 386.] AYES. [8.0 p.m.
Abraham, William (Dublin, Harbour) Barran, Sir J. N. (Hawick) Buckmaster, Stanley O.
Acland, Francis Dyke Barton, William Burke, E. Haviland-
Adamson, William Beale, Sir William Phipson Burns, Rt. Hon. John
Addison, Dr. Christopher Beauchamp, Sir Edward Buxton, Rt. Hon. S. C. (Poplar)
Adkins, Sir W. Ryland D. Beck, Arthur Cecil Byles, Sir William Pollard
Agnew, Sir George William Bentham, George Jackson Carr-Gomm, H. W.
Ainsworth, John Stirling Bethell, Sir J. H. Cawley, Sir Frederick (Prestwich)
Allen, Arthur A. (Dumbartonshire) Black, Arthur W. Cawley, H. T. (Lancs., Heywood)
Allen, Rt. Hon. Charles P. (Stroud) Boland, John Pius Chancellor, H. G.
Arnold, Sydney Booth, Frederick Handel Clancy, John Joseph
Asquith, Rt. Hon. Herbert Henry Bowerman, Charles W. Clough, William
Baker, H. T. (Accrington) Boyle, D. (Mayo, N.) Clynes, J. R.
Baker, Joseph A. (Finsbury, E.) Brace, William Collins, Godfrey P. (Greenock)
Balfour, Sir Robert (Lanark) Brady, Patrick Joseph Collins, Stephen (Lambeth)
Barlow, Sir John Emmott (Somerset) Brocklehurst, William B. Condon, Thomas Joseph
Barnes, George N. Bryce, J. Annan Cornwall, Sir Edwin A.
Cotton, William Francis Hope, John Deans (Haddington) O'Shee, James John
Craig, Herbert J. (Tynemouth) Horne, C. Silvester (Ipswich) O'Sullivan, Timothy
Crean, Eugene Howard, Hon. Geoffrey Outhwaite, R. L.
Crooks, William Hudson, Walter Palmer, Godfrey Mark
Crumley, Patrick Hughes, S. L. Parker, James (Halifax)
Cullinan, John Illingworth, Percy H. Pearce, Robert (Staffs, Leek)
Dalziel, Rt. Hon. Sir J. H. (Kirkcaldy) Isaacs, Rt. Hon. Sir Rufus Pearce, William (Limehouse)
Davies, Ellis William (Eifion) John, Edward Thomas Pease, Rt. Hon. Joseph A. (Rotherham)
Davies, Timothy (Lincs., Louth) Jones, Edgar (Merthyr Tydvil) Philipps, Col. Ivor (Southampton)
Davies, Sir W. Howell (Bristol, S.) Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) Phillips, John (Longford, S.)
Davies, M. Vaughan- (Cardigan) Jones, J. Towyn (Carmarthen, East) Pirie, Duncan V.
Dawes, James Arthur Jones, Leif Stratten (Notts, Rushcliffe) Pointer, Joseph
De Forest, Baron Jones, W. S. Glyn- (T. H'mts., Stepney) Pollard, Sir George H.
Delany, William Jowett, F. W. Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H.
Denman, Hon. Richard Douglas Joyce, Michael Power, Patrick Joseph
Devlin, Joseph Keating, Matthew Price, C. E. (Edinburgh, Central)
Dillon, John Kellaway, Frederick George Price, Sir Robert J. (Norfolk, E.)
Donelan, Captain A. Kennedy, Vincent Paul Priestley, Sir W. E. B. (Bradford, E.)
Doris, William Kilbride, Denis Primrose, Hon. Neil James
Duffy, William J. King, Joseph Pringle, M. R.
Duncan, C. (Barrow-in-Furness) Lambert, Rt. Hon. G. (Devon, S. Molton) Radford, George Heynes
Duncan, J. Hastings (Yorks, Otley) Lambert, Richard (Wilts, Cricklade) Rea, Rt. Hon. Russell (South Shields)
Edwards, Clement (Glamorgan, E.) Lardner, James Carrige Rushe Rea, Walter Russell (Scarborough)
Edwards, Sir Francis (Radnor) Lawson, Sir W. (Cumb'rid, Cockerm'th) Reddy, Michael
Elverston, Sir Harold Leach, Charles Redmond, John E. (Waterford)
Esmonde, Dr. John (Tipperary, N.) Levy, Sir Maurice Redmond, William (Clare, E.)
Esmonde, Sir Thomas (Wexford, N.) Lewis, John Herbert Redmond, William Archer (Tyrone, E.)
Essex, Richard Walter Lough, Rt. Hon. Thomas Rendall, Atheistan
Esslemont, George Birnie Low, Sir F. (Norwich) Richards, Thomas
Falconer, James Lundon, Thomas Richardson, Albion (Peckham)
Farrell, James Patrick Lyell, Charles Henry Richardson, Thomas (Whitehaven)
Fenwick, Rt. Hon. Charles Lynch, Arthur Alfred Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln)
Ferens, Rt. Hon. Thomas Robinson Macdonald, J. R. (Leicester) Roberts, Sir J. H. (Denbighs)
Ffrench, Peter McGhee, Richard Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford)
Field, William Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J. Robinson, Sidney
Fiennes, Hon. Eustace Edward MacNeill, J. G. Swift (Donegal, South) Roche, Augustine (Louth)
Fitzgibbon, John MacVeagh, Jeremiah Roe, Sir Thomas
Flavin, Michael Joseph M'Callum, Sir John M. Rowlands, James
France, G. A. M'Curdy, C. A. Rowntree, Arnold
George, Rt. Hon. D. Lloyd M'Kean, John Samuel, Rt. Hon. H. L. (Cleveland)
Gilhooly, James McKenna, Rt. Hon. Reginald Samuel, J. (Stockton-on-Tees)
Gill, A. H. M'Laren, Hon. H. D. (Leics.) Scanlan, Thomas
Ginnell, Laurence M'Laren, Hon. F. W. S. (Lincs., Spalding) Seely, Col. Rt. Hon. J. E. B.
Gladstone, W. G. C. Manfield, Harry Sheehy, David
Glanville, H. J. Markham, Sir Arthur Basil Sherwell, Arthur James
Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford Marks, Sir George Croydon Shortt, Edward
Goldstone, Frank Marshall, Arthur Harold Simon, Sir John Allsebrook
Greenwood, Granville G. (Peterborough) Martin, Joseph Smith, Albert (Lancs., Clitheroe)
Grey, Rt. Hon. sir Edward Mason, David M. (Coventry) Smith, H. B. L. (Northampton)
Griffith, Ellis J. Masterman, Rt. Hon. C. F. G. Smyth, Thomas (Leitrim, S.)
Guest, Major Hon. C. H. C. (Pembroke) Meagher, Michael Snowden, Philip
Guest, Hon. Frederick E. (Dorset, E.) Meehan, Francis E. (Leitrim, N.) Stanley, Albert (Staffs, N.W.)
Guiney, P. Menzies, Sir Walter Sutherland, J. E.
Gulland, John William Millar, James Duncan Sutton, John E.
Gwynn, Stephen Lucius (Galway) Molloy, Michael Taylor, John W. (Durham)
Hackett, John Money, L. G. Chiozza Taylor, T. C. (Radcliffe)
Hall, F. (Yorks, Normanton) Mooney, John J. Taylor, Thomas (Bolton)
Hancock, J. G. Morrell, Philip Tennant, Harold John
Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose) Morison, Hector Thomas, James Henry
Hardie, J. Keir Morton, Alpheus Cleophas Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton)
Harmsworth, Cecil (Luton, Beds) Muldoon, John Thorne, William (West Ham)
Harmsworth, R. L. (Caithness-shire) Munro, Robert Toulmin, Sir George
Harvey, A. G. C. (Rochdale) Munro-Ferguson, Rt. Hon. R. C Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Harvey, T. E. (Leeds, W.) Nannetti, Joseph P. Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander
Harvey, W. E. (Derbyshire, N.E.) Needham, Christopher T Verney, Sir Harry
Haslam, James (Derbyshire) Neilson, Francis Wadsworth, J.
Haslam, Lewis (Mon.) Nicholson, Sir Charles N. (Doncaster) Walsh, Stephen (Lancs., Ince)
Havelock-Allan, Sir Henry Nolan, Joseph Walters, Sir John Tudor
Hayden, John Patrick Norman, Sir Henry Walton, Sir Joseph
Hayward, Evan Norton, Captain Cecil W. Ward, John (Stoke-upon-Trent)
Hazleton, Richard Nugent, Sir Walter Richard Ward, W. Dudley (Southampton)
Healy, Maurice (Cork) Nuttall, Harry Wardle, George J.
Healy, Timothy Michael (Cork, N. E.) O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) Waring, Walter
Helme, Sir Norval Watson O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.) Warner, Sir Thomas Courtenay
Henderson, Arthur (Durham) O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) Wason, Rt. Hon. E. (Clackmannan)
Henderson, J. M. (Aberdeen, W.) O'Doherty, Philip Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney)
Henry, Sir Charles O'Donnell, Thomas Watt, Henry A.
Higham, John Sharp Ogden, Fred Webb, H.
Hinds, John O'Grady, James White, J. Dundas (Glasgow, Tradeston)
Hobhouse, Rt. Hon. Charles E. H. O'Kelly, Edward P. (Wicklow, W.) White, Sir Luke (Yorks, E. R.)
Hodge, John O'Kelly, James (Roscommon, N.) White, Patrick (Meath, North)
Hogge, James Myles O'Malley, William Whyte, Alexander F.
Holmes, Daniel Turner O'Neill, Dr. Charles (Armagh, S.) Wiles, Thomas
Holt, Richard Durning O'Shaughnessy, P. J. Wilkle, Alexander
Williams, J. (Glamorgan) Winfrey, Richard Yoxall, Sir James Henry
Williams, Llewelyn (Carmarthen) Wood, Rt. Hon. T. McKinnon (Glas.)
Williams, P. (Middlesbrough) Young, Samuel (Cavan, E.) TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr.
Wilson, Rt. Hon. J. W. (Worcs., N.) Young, William (Perth, East) Wedgwood Benn and Mr. W. Jones.
Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton)
NOES.
Agg-Gardner, James Tynte Fletcher, John Samuel Newdegate, F. A.
Aitken, Sir William Max Foster, Philip Staveley Newton, Harry Kottingham
Amery, L. C. M. S. Gardner, Ernest Nicholson, William G. (Petersfield)
Anstruther-Gray, Major William Gibbs, George Abraham Orde-Powlett, Hon. W. G. A.
Ashley, W. W. Goldman, C. S. Parkes, Ebenezer
Baird, John Lawrence Goldsmith, Frank Peel, Capt. R. F. (Woodbridge)
Balcarres, Lord Gordon, John (Londonderry, South) Peto, Basil Edward
Baldwin, Stanley Goulding, Edward Alfred Pole-Carew, Sir R.
Balfour, Rt. Hon. A. J. (City, Lond.) Grant, J. A. Pollock, Ernest Murray
Banbury, Sir Frederick George Gretton, John Pretyman, Ernest George
Barlow, Montague (Salford, South) Guinness, Hon. Rupert (Essex, S. E.) Quilter, Sir William Eley C.
Barnston, Harry Guinness, Hon. W. E. (Bury S. Edmunds) Randles, Sir John S.
Barrie, H. T. Gwynne, R. S. (Sussex, Eastbourne) Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel
Benn, Arthur Shirley (Plymouth) Haddock, George Bahr Rees, Sir J. D.
Bennett-Goldney, Francis Hall, D. B. (Isle of Wight) Roberts, S. (Sheffield, Ecclesall)
Bentinck, Lord Henry Cavendish- Hall, Fred (Dulwich) Rothschild, Lionel de
Beresford, Lord Charles Hambro, Angus Valdemar Royds, Edmund
Bigland, Alfred Hamersley, Alfred St. George Rutherford, Watson (L'pool, W Derby)
Bird, Alfred Hamilton, Lord C. J. (Kensington, S.) Salter, Arthur Clavell
Blair, Reginald Hamilton, Marquess of (Londonderry) Samuel, Sir Harry (Norwood)
Boscawen, Sir Arthur S. T. Griffith- Hardy, Rt. Hon. Laurence Sanders, Robert Arthur
Boyle, William (Norfolk, Mid) Harris, Henry Percy Sanderson, Lancelot
Boyton, James Harrison-Broadley, H. B. Scott, Leslie (Liverpool, Exchange)
Bridgeman, William Clive Helmsley, Viscount Spear, Sir John Ward
Bull, Sir William James Henderson, Major H. (Berks, Abingdon) Stanler, Beville
Burdett-Coutts, William Herbert, Hon. A. (Somerset, S.) Stanley, Hon. Arthur (Ormskirk)
Burn, Col. C. R. Hewins, William Albert Samuel Stanley, Hon. G. F. (Preston)
Butcher, J. G. Hickman, Col. Thomas E. Starkey, John R.
Carlile, Sir Edward Hildred Hill, Sir Clement L. Staveley-Hill, Henry
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward H. Hills, John Walter Steel-Maitland, A. D.
Cassel, Felix Hill-Wood, Samuel Stewart, Gershom
Cator, John Hoare, S. J. G. Strauss, Arthur (Paddington, North)
Cautley, Henry Strother Hohler, Gerald Fitzroy Sykes, Alan John (Ches., Knutsford)
Cave, George Hope, James Fitzalan (Sheffield) Sykes, Mark (Hull, Central)
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Hope, Major J. A. (Midlothian) Talbot, Lord E.
Cecil, Lord Hugh (Oxford University) Houston, Robert Paterson Terrell, G. (Wilts, N.W.)
Cecil, Lord R. (Herts, Hitchin) Hume-Williams, William Ellis Terrell, Henry (Gloucester)
Chaloner, Col. R. G. W. Hunt, Rowland Thompson, Robert (Belfast, North)
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. J. A. (Worc'r.) Kerr-Smiley, Peter Kerr Thomson, W. Mitchell- (Down, N.)
Chambers, J. Kimber, Sir Henry Thynne, Lord Alexander
Chaplin, Rt. Hon. Henry Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement Tobin, Alfred Aspinall
Clay, Captain H. H. Spender Knight, Captain Eric Ayshford Touche, George Alexander
Clive, Captain Percy Archer Lane-Fox, G. R. Tryon, Captain George Clement
Cooper, Richard Ashmole Larmor, Sir J. Tullibardine, Marquess of
Courthope, George Loyd Law, Rt. Hon. A. Bonar (Bootle) Valentia, Viscount
Craig, Charles Curtis (Antrim, S.) Lawson, Hon. H. (T. H'mts., Mile End) Wheler, Granville C. H.
Craig, Ernest (Cheshire, Crewe) Locker-Lampson, O. (Ramsey) White, Major G. D. (Lancs., Southport)
Craig, Captain James (Down, E.) Lonsdale, Sir John Brownlee Williams, Colonel R. (Dorset, W.)
Craig, Norman (Kent, Thanet) Lowe, Sir F. W. (Birm., Edgbaston) Willoughby, Major Hon. Claud
Denniss, E. R. B. Lyttelton, Rt. Hon. A. (St. Geo., Han. S.) Wills, Sir Gilbert
Dixon, C. H. Lyttelton, J. C. (Droitwich) Wilson, A. Stanley (Yorks, E. R.)
Doughty, Sir George MacCaw, Wm. J. MacGeagh Winterton, Earl
Duke, Henry Edward Mackinder, H. J. Wolmer, Viscount
Faber, George D. (Clapham) Macmaster, Donald Wood, John (Stalybridge)
Faber, Captain W. V. (Hants, W.) McNeill, Ronald (Kent, St. Augustine's) Yate, Col. C. E.
Falle, Bertram Godfray Meysey-Thompson, E. C. Yerburgh, Robert A.
Fell, Arthur Middlemore, John Throgmorton Younger, Sir George
Fetherstonhaugh, Godfrey Mildmay, Francis Bingham
Finlay, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert Mills, Hon. Charles Thomas
Fisher, Rt. Hon. W. Hayes Moore, William TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Earl
Flannery, Sir J. Fortescue Mount, William Arthur of Kerry and Captain O'Neill.
Fleming, Valentine Neville, Reginald J. N.