§ Mr. ASTORasked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will now state what was the total amount of the expenses of management incurred by the friendly societies in 1905 and 1909, and what percentage of the total revenue did it represent; what were the comparative figures of the sickness insurance funds in Germany for those years; what is the estimated cost of the expenses of management of approved societies under the National Insurance Bill; and what percentage of revenue will this estimated cost represent?
§ The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER (Mr. Lloyd George)I regret that the information asked for in the first part of the question is not available. The cost of administration in Germany for 1909, excluding the cost of Government assistance, which is very considerable, was
which, I believe, includes the cost of administering old age pensions. The percentage of total revenue, including interest, is 8.1 per cent; excluding interest the percentage for sickness is 8.3; for invalidity, 10.3. The figures given for sickness are for the local sick clubs. The amount set apart for management of approved societies in the actuaries' report is 3s. 8d. per head.
Per Member. For Sickness Insurance … 2s. 4¼d. For Invalidity Insurance … 1s.3¼d.