HC Deb 15 June 1911 vol 26 cc1675-6
Mr. INGLEBY

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, having regard to the fact that rates of payment to farm labourers on the poorer arable lands range from 12s. a week or thereabouts in the winter months to 17s. per week or thereabouts at hoeing time, when labourers are paid by the piece, and may reach 50s. and upwards per week at harvest time when they are paid a fixed sum for the harvest, he will provide in the Bill for farmers averaging their rates of wages for insurance purposes and so avoid causing any disturbance in the prevailing system of payment?

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

I think any system of averaging would be open to objection as being far more complicated than the system contemplated in the Bill.

Sir RANDOLF BAKER

When the labourer is getting 12s. or 14s. a week, does the employer pay 4d. and the men 3d., and is it the case that when his wages increase the employer pays 3d. and the men 4d.?

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

Yes. The same number of stamps appears each week on the card: the adjustment is between employer and employed. The pay will have to be according to the wages for each particular week. That is why the system will be perfectly simple. For any given week when the wages are over 2s. 6d. a day the employer would have to pay 4d. for the week's work. On the other hand, when the wages fall below that, the employer will have to put the initial stamp on himself. It will be according to the wage for that particular week.

Mr. BAIRD

Does that ratio apply to the man under twenty-one. Does not the charge come in when the person is over twenty-one?

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

Yes, that is so.