HC Deb 06 July 1911 vol 27 cc1343-7
Mr. BALFOUR

Perhaps the Prime Minister can now give us his forecast of Parliamentary business for next week.

The PRIME MINISTER

On Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday we shall proceed with the Committee Stage of the National Insurance Bill. On Thursday we shall take Supply, probably the Education Vote. With regard to Friday, I will make an announcement early next week.

Mr. BALFOUR

Do we take the Financial Resolution of this Bill to-morrow?

The PRIME MINISTER

No, to-day.

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

I did notify this to the hon. Gentleman on the Front Opposition Bench at the time. It is necessary. We cannot get on without it.

Mr. WORTHINGTON-EVANS

May I ask whether the Eleven o'clock Rule will be suspended on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday next?

The PRIME MINISTER

I will consider it.

Mr. WEDGWOOD

May I ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will arrange not to take the Financial Resolution after Eleven o'clock to-night, so that we may have a proper Debate?

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

We cannot get on with the Bill at all unless we get our Financial Resolution, and I hope my hon. Friend will not press that.

Mr. AUSTEN CHAMBERLAIN

I think what we should press for at this stage is that we should not be asked to sit late again to-night. Last night the House did not rise till One o'clock. We all consented to sit without protest in order to finish Clause 1. It is a wholly unusual procedure to suspend the Eleven o'clock Rule the moment a Bill enters the Committee stage, and it would be intolerable to ask the House to sit night after night.

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

I do not think the request of the Government is unreasonable, having regard to the progress made yesterday. The first Clause occupies a whole page, and the second is nothing like so important as the first. Yesterday we disposed of the Instructions, and there was a whole page of a most important Clause. The second Clause is very short, and I think we ought to get on with the Financial Resolution at an early stage.

Mr. AUSTEN CHAMBERLAIN

I am not at all trying to forecast the progress we should make or to set the time. All I venture to urge is that if we are to be asked to suspend the Eleven o'clock Rule it shall not be for the purpose of silting late, but in order that we may not be prevented from coining to a conclusion when we are on the verge of arriving at it.

The PRIME MINISTER

That is so.

Resolved, "That the Proceedings on the National Insurance Bill and the National Insurance [Money] Committee have precedence this day of the Business of Supply."—[The Prime Minister.]

The PRIME MINISTER

I beg to move, "That the Proceedings on the National Insurance Bill and the National Insurance [Money] Committee, if under discussion at Eleven o'clock this night, be not interrupted under the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."

The House divided: Ayes, 234; Noes, 125.

Division No. 259.] AYES. [4.0 p.m.
Abraham, William (Dublin Harbour) Ainsworth, John Stirling Armitage, R.
Acland, Francis Dyke Alden, Percy Asquith, Rt. Hon. Herbert Henry
Adamson, William Allen, Arthur Acland (Dumbartonshire) Baker, Harold T. (Accrington)
Adkins, Sir W. Ryland D. Anderson, Andrew Macbeth Baker, Joseph Allen (Finsbury, E.)
Barlow, Sir John Emmott (Somerset) Harmsworth, R. (Leicester) O'Shaughnessy, P. J.
Barnes, George N. Harvey, A. G. C. (Rochdale) O'Shee, James John
Barry, Redmond John (Tyrone, N.) Harwood, George O'Sullivan, Timothy
Barton, William Haslam, James (Derbyshire) Palmer, Godfrey Mark
Beale, William Phipson Haslam, Lewis (Monmouth) Parker, James (Halifax)
Beauchamp, Sir Edward Havelock-Allan, Sir Henry Pearce, William (Limehouse)
Benn, W. W. (T. H'mts, St. George) Haworth, Sir Arthur A. Pearson, Weetman H. M.
Bentham, George Jackson Hayden, John Patrick Pease, Rt. Hon. Joseph A. (Rotherham)
Black, Arthur W. Henry, Sir Charles S. Phillips, John (Longford, S.)
Boland, John Pius Herbert, Col. Sir Ivor (Mon., South) Pirie, Duncan V.
Booth, Frederick Handel Higham, John Sharp Pointer, Joseph
Bowerman, Charles W. Hobhouse, Rt. Hon. Charles E. H. Pollard, Sir George H.
Boyle, Daniel (Mayo, North) Hodge, John Ponsonby, Arthur A. W. H.
Brady, Patrick Joseph Holt, Richard Durning Power, Patrick Joseph
Bryce, John Annan Hope, John Deans (Haddington) Price, C. E. (Edinburgh, Central)
Burke, E. Haviland- Home, Charles Silvester (Ipswich) Primrose, Hon. Neil James
Burt, Rt. Hon. Thomas Howard, Hon. Geoffrey Pringle, William M. R.
Buxton, Noel (Norfolk, N.) Hughes, Spencer Leigh Radford, G. H.
Buxton, Rt. Hon. Sydney C. (Poplar) Hunter, W. (Govan) Rattan, Peter Wilson
Byles, Sir William Pollard Isaacs, Sir Rufus Daniel Rainy, Adam Rolland
Carr-Gomm, H. W. Johnson, William Raphael, Sir Herbert H.
Cawley, Sir Frederick (Prestwich) Jones, Leif Stratten (Notts, Rushcliffe) Reddy, Michael
Chancellor, Henry George Jones, William (Carnarvonshire) Redmond, John E. (Waterford)
Chapple, Dr. William Allen Jones, William S. Glyn- (Stepney) Redmond, William (Clare, E.)
Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston S. Joyce, Michael Richardson, Albion (Peckham)
Clancy, John Joseph Keating, Matthew Richardson, Thomas (Whitehaven)
Clough, William Kellaway, Frederick George Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoin)
Collins, Stephen (Lambeth) Kelly, Edward Roberts, G. H. (Norwich)
Compton-Rickett, Sir J. King, J. (Somerset, N.) Robertson, John M. (Tyneside)
Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. Lambert, George (Devon, S. Molton) Robinson, Sidney
Cowan, W. H. Lambert, Richard (Wilts, Cricklade) Roche, Augustine (Louth)
Crawshay-Williams, Eliot Law, Hugh A. (Donegal, West) Roche, John (Galway, E.)
Crooks, William Lawson, Sir W. (Cumb'rid, Cockerm'th) Rose, Sir Charles Day
Crumley, Patrick Leach, Charles Rowntree, Arnold
Dalziel, Sir James H. (Kirkcaldy) Levy, Sir Maurice Samuel, Rt. Hon. H. L. (Cleveland)
Davies, David (Montgomery Co.) Lewis, John Herbert Samuel, J. (Stockton-on-Tees)
Davies, Ellis William (Eifion) Logan, John William Scanlan, Thomas
Davies, M. Vaughan- (Cardigan) Lundon, Thomas Schwann, Rt. Hon. Sir C. E.
Dawes, J. A. Lyell, Charles Henry Scott, A. MacCallum (Glas., Bridgeton)
Delany, William Lynch, Arthur Alfred Seely, Col., Rt. Hon. J. E. B.
Denman, Hon. R. D. Macdonald, J. R. (Leicester) Sheehy, David
Devlin, Joseph Macdonald, J. M. (Falkirk Burghs) Sherwell, Arthur James
Dewar, Sir J. A. Maclean, Donald Simon, Sir John Allsebrook
Dickinson, W. H. (St. Pancras, N.) Macnamara, Dr. Thomas J. Smith, Albert (Lanes., Clitheroe)
Doris, William Macpherson, James Ian Smith, H. B. L. (Northampton)
Duffy, William J. MacVeagh, Jeremiah Smyth, Thomas F. (Leitrim)
Duncan, C. (Barrow-In-Furness) M'Callum, John M. Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Duncan, J. Hastings (York, Otley) McKenna, Rt. Hon. Reginald Strachey, Sir Edward
Edwards, Sir Francis (Radnor) Meagher, Michael Strauss, Edward A. (Southwark, West)
Edwards, John Hugh (Glamorgan, Mid) Meehan, Francis E. (Leitrim, N.) Summers, James Woolley
Elibank, Rt. Hon. Master of Menzies, Sir Walter Sutherland, J. E.
Elverston, Sir Harold Millar, James Duncan Sutton, John E.
Esmonde, Sir Thomas (Wexford, N.) Mond, Sir Alfred Moritz Taylor, John W. (Durham)
Essex, Richard Walter Money, L. G. Chiozza Tennant, Harold John
Esslement, George Birnie Montagu, Hon. E. S. Thomas, James Henry (Derby)
Falconer, James Mooney, John J. Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton)
Fenwick, Charles Morgan, George Hay Trevelyan, Charles Philips
Ffrench, Peter Morrell, Philip Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander
Fitzgibbon, John Munro, Robert Wadsworth, J.
Flavin, Michael Joseph Munro-Ferguson, Rt. Hon. R. C. Walsh, Stephen (Lanes., Ince)
Gelder, Sir William Alfred Murray, Capt. Hon. A. C. Walton, Sir Joseph
George, Rt. Hon D. Lloyd Needham, Christopher T. Ward, W. Dudley (Southampton)
Gill, A. H. Neilson, Francis Wardie, George J.
Glanville, H. J. Nicholson, Charles N. (Doncaster) Wason, Rt. Hon. E. (Clackmannan)
Goldstone, Frank Nolan, Joseph Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney)
Greenwood, Cranville G. (Peterborough) Norman, Sir Henry White, Sir George (Norfolk)
Greig, Colonel J. W. Norton, Capt. Cecil W. Whitehouse, John Howard
Guest, Major Hon. C. H. C. (Pembroke) Nugent, Sir Walter Richard Whittaker, Rt. Hon. Sir Thomas P.
Guest, Hon. Frederick E. (Dorset, E) O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) Wiles, Thomas
Hackett, John O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.) Wilson, John (Durham, Mid)
Hall, F. (Yorks, Normanton) O'Doherty, Philip Wilson, J. W. (Worcestershire, N.)
Hancock, John George O'Dowd, John Wood, T. McKinnon (Glasgow)
Harcourt, Rt. Hon. Lewis (Rossendale) Ogden, Fred
Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose) O'Malley, William TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr. Illingworth and Mr. Gulland.
Hardie, J. Keir (Merthyr Tydvil) O'Neill, Dr. Charles (Armagh, S.)
NOES.
Anstruther-Gray, Major William Baldwin, Stanley Beckett, Hon. W. Gervase
Ashley, Wilfrid W. Balfour, Rt. Hon. A. J. (City Lond.) Benn, Arthur Shirley (Plymouth)
Astor, Waldorf Banbury, Sir Frederick George Bennett-Goldney, Francis
Bagot, Lieut.-Colonel J. Baring, Maj. Hon. Guy V. (Winchester) Bigland, Alfred
Baird, John Lawrence Barrie, Hugh T. (Londonderry) Boscawen, Sir Arthur S. T. Griffith-
Baker, Sir Randolf L. (Dorset, N.) Bathurst, Hon. Allen B. (Glouc, E.) Boyle, W. Lewis (Norfolk, Mid)
Balcarres, Lord Bathurst, Charles (Wilton) Bridgeman, W. Clive
Bull, Sir William James Helmsley, Viscount Orde-Powlett, Hon. W. G. A.
Burn, Colonel C. R. Henderson, Major H. (Abingdon) Parker, Sir Gilbert (Gravesend)
Carlile, Sir Edward Hildred Hill, Sir Clement L. (Shrewsbury) Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlington)
Castlereagh, Viscount Hills, J. W. Peel, Hon. William R. W. (Taunton)
Cautley, Henry Strother Hope, Harry (Bute) Peto, Basil Edward
Cecil, Lord Hugh (Oxford University) Hope, James Fitzalan (Sheffield) Pole-Carew, Sir R.
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. J. A. (Worc'r.) Hume-Williams, W. E. Pryce-Jones, Col. E, (Montgom'y B'ghs)
Clay, Captain H. H. Spender Hunt, Rowland Rawson, Col. Richard H.
Clive, Captain Percy Archer Hunter, Sir Charles Rodk. (Bath) Roberts, S. (Sheffield, Ecclesall)
Clyde, James Avon Ingleby, Holcombe Ronaldshay, Earl of
Cooper, Richard Ashmole Jowett, Frederick William Rothschild, Lionel de
Craig, Captain James (Down, E.) Joynson-Hicks, William Rutherford, John (Lanes., Darwen)
Craik, Sir Henry Kerr-Smiley. Peter Kerr Snowden, Philip
Croft, Henry Page Kimber, Sir Henry Spear, Sir John Ward
Dairymple, Viscount Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement Starkey, John Ralph
Dickson, Rt. Hon. C. S. Kirkwood, John H. M. Stewart, Gershom
Dixon, C. H. Lansbury, George Talbot, Lord E.
Doughty, Sir George Law, Andrew Bonar (Bootie, Lancs.) Thompson, Robert (Belfast, North)
Eyres-Monsell, Bolton M. Lawson, Hon. H. (T. H'mts., Mile End) Tryon, Captain George Clement
Falle, B. G. Lloyd, George Ambrose Valentia, Viscount
Fell, Arthur Locker-Lampson, G. (Salisbury) Walker, Col. William Hall
Fletcher, John Samuel (Hampstead) Long, Rt. Hon. Walter Wedgwood, Josiah C.
Gardner, Ernest Lonsdale, Sir John Brownlee White, Major G. D. (Lanes., Southport)
Gastrell, Major W. Houghton Lyttelton, Rt. Hon. A. (S. Geo. Han. S.) Willoughby, Major Hon. Claude
Gibbs, G. A. Lyttelton, Hon. J. C. (Droitwich) Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E.R.)
Gilmour, Captain John Magnus, Sir Philip Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton)
Goldman, C. S. Malcolm, Ian Wolmer, Viscount
Gordon, Hon. John Edward (Brighton) Martin, J. Wood, John (Stalybridge)
Goulding, Edward Alfred Moore, William Worthington-Evans, L. (Colchester)
Gretton, John Morrison, Captain J. A. Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart-
Gwynne, R. S. (Sussex, Eastbourne) Morrison-Bell, Major A. C.(Honston) Yate, Col. C. E.
Hall, O. B. (Isle of Wight) Mount, William Arthur Younger, Sir George
Hambro, Angus Valdemar Newman, John R. P.
Hamersley, Alfred St. George Newton, Harry Kottingham TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Dr. Hillier and Mr. Wheler
Hardy, Laurence (Kent, Ashford) Nicholson, William G. (Petersfield)
Harris, Henry Percy

Question, "That the Clause, as amended, stand part of the Bill" put, and agreed to.