§ Resolution reported,
§ 5. "That a sum, not exceeding £11,052,540, be granted to His Majesty, to defray the Charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on 31st day of March, 1912, for Expenditure in respect of the Services included in Class IV. of the Estimates for Civil Services."
§ [For Services included in this Class, see OFFICIAL REPORT, 14th August, 1911, cols. 1685–1688.]
§ Question proposed, "That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolution."
§ Sir HENRY CRAIKI rise to call attention to the entire neglect of Scottish education during this Session. We have a grievance of a very serious kind, in which I expected to have the alliance of my colleagues from Scotland upon the other side, but that alliance has entirely failed. We have failed to get any discussion of the most important grievances of Scottish school masters, and the only chance I have of insisting upon this grievance, though we have no chance of getting an answer from the Lord Advocate, is at this moment. This is the only occasion open to us for a discussion on Scottish education during the whole of this Session, and I should have expected that not one Mem-
§ ber, but that every Member from Scotland would have risen to protest against this treatment. I did expect, and I fancy-Scotland also will expect, that some sort of stand should have been made on this occasion by Scottish Members. They know perfectly well the hardships suffered by Scottish teachers. We have been able to vote money for our own salaries, but we have not been able to give the very moderate sum that will be necessary for the superannuation to these hard-worked teachers, and not one word in their behalf is uttered at this moment by Liberal Members opposite. None of them rose-when the opportunity occurred. They had not insisted that the Government, of whom they pretend to be supporters, should adhere to the exigent wants of Scotland. Hon. Members opposite know very well the feelings of the Scottish teachers upon this subject.
§ And it being Ten of the clock, Mr. Speaker, in pursuance of Standing Order No. 15, proceeded to put forthwith the Question necessary to dispose of the Report of the Resolution then under consideration.
§ Question put, "That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolution."
§ The House divided: Ayes, 213; Noes, 118.
1861| Division No. 335.] | AYES. | [10.0 p.m. |
| Abraham, William (Dublin Harbour) | Clancy, John Joseph | Gulland, John William |
| Acland, Francis Dyke | Clough, William | Hackett, John |
| Ainsworth, John Stirling | Clynes, J. R. | Hancock, John George |
| Alden, Percy | Collins, G. P. (Greenock) | Harcourt, Rt. Hon. L. (Rossendale) |
| Allen, A. A. (Dumbartonshire) | Collins, Stephen (Lambeth) | Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose) |
| Allen, Charles P. (Stroud) | Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. | Hardie, J. Keir (Merthyr Tydvil) |
| Baker, H. T. (Accrington) | Craig, Herbert J. (Tynemouth) | Harmsworth, Cecil (Luton, Beds.) |
| Baker, Joseph Allen (Finsbury, E.) | Crooks, William | Harmsworth, R. L. (Caithness-shire) |
| Balfour, Sir Robert (Lanark) | Dalziel, Sir James H. (Kirkcaldy) | Harvey, T. E. (Leeds, West) |
| Barnes, George N. | Davies, David (Montgomery Co.) | Harvey, W. E. (Derbyshire, N. E.) |
| Barry, Redmond John (Tyrone, N.) | Davies, Ellis William (Eifion) | Haslam, James (Derbyshire) |
| Beale, W. P. | Davies, Timothy (Lincs., Louth) | Haslam, Lewis (Monmouth) |
| Beauchamp, Sir Edward | Davies, Sir W. Howell (Bristol, S.) | Havelock-Allan, Sir Henry |
| Beck, Arthur Cecil | Dawes, J. A. | Haworth, Sir Arthur A. |
| Benn, W. W. (T. Hamlets, St. George) | Duncan, C. (Barrow-In-Furness) | Hayward, Evan |
| Bentham, George Jackson | Edwards, Enoch (Hanley) | Henderson, Arthur (Durham) |
| Birrell, Rt. Hon. Augustine | Edwards, John Hugh (Glamorgan, Mid) | Henderson, J. M. (Aberdeen, W.) |
| Boland, John Plus | Elibank, Rt. Hon. Master of | Henry, Sir Charles S. |
| Booth, Frederick Handel | Essex, Richard Walter | Higham, John Sharp |
| Bowerman, C. W. | Falconer, J. | Hinds, John |
| Brady, Patrick Joseph | Fenwick, Rt. Hon. Charles | Hobhouse, Rt. Hon. Charles E. H. |
| Brocklehurst, W. B. | Ferens, T. R. | Hodge, John |
| Brunner, J. F. L. | Flavin, Michael Joseph | Hughes, S. L. |
| Bryce, John Annan | Gelder, Sir William Alfred | Hunter, William (Lanark, Govan) |
| Burns, Rt. Hon. John | George, Rt. Hon. D. Lloyd | Illingworth, Percy H. |
| Burt, Rt. Hon. Thomas | Gibson, Sir James Puckering | Isaacs, Rt. Hon. Sir Rufus |
| Buxton, Noel (Norfolk, N.) | Gill, A. H. | Johnson, W. |
| Byles, Sir William Pollard | Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford | Jones, Sir D. Brynmor (Swansea) |
| Carr-Gomm, H. W. | Greenwood, Granville G. (Peterborough) | Jones, Edgar (Merthyr Tydvil) |
| Cawley, Sir Frederick (Prestwich) | Greenwood, Hamar (Sunderland) | Jones, H. Hadyn (Merioneth) |
| Cawley, Harold T. (Heywood) | Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward | Jones. W. S. Glyn- (Stepney) |
| Chancellor, H. G. | Guest, Major Hon. C. H. C. (Pembroke) | Jowett, Frederick William |
| Chapple, Dr. W. A. | Guest, Hon. Frederick E. (Dirset, E.) | Kellaway, Frederick George |
| King, J. (Somerset, N.) | Norton, Captain Cecil W. | Smith, Albert (Lancs., Clitheroe) |
| Lambert, George (Devon, S. Molton) | Nuttall, Harry | Smith, H. B. Lees (Northampton) |
| Lambert, Richard (Wilts, Cricklade) | O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) | Snowden Philip |
| Lansbury, George | O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.) | Stanley, Albert (Staffs., N.W.) |
| Lawson, Sir W. (Cumb'rld, Cockerm'th) | O'Doherty, Philip | Strauss, Edward A. (Southwark, West) |
| Leach, Charles | Ogden, Fred | Sutton, John E. |
| Levy, Sir Maurice | Parker, James (Halifax) | Taylor, John W. (Durham) |
| Lewis, John Herbert | Pearce, Robert (Staffs., Leek) | Taylor, T. C. (Radcliffe) |
| Logan, John William | Pearce, William (Limehouse) | Tennant, Harold John |
| Lough, Rt. Hon. Thomas | Pearson, Hon. Weetman H. M. | Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton) |
| Lyell, Charles Henry | Pease, Rt. Hon. Joseph A. (Rotherham) | Trevelyan, Charles Philips |
| Lynch, Arthur Alfred | Pirie, Duncan V. | Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander |
| Macdonald, J. R. (Leicester) | Pointer, Joseph | Verney, Sir Harry |
| Macdonald, J. M. (Falkirk Burghs) | Power, Patrick Joseph | Wadsworth, John |
| Maclean, Donald | Price, C. E. (Edinburgh, Central) | Walsh, Stephen (Lancs., Ince) |
| Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J. | Priestley, Sir W. E. B. (Bradford, E.) | Walters, John Tudor |
| Macpherson, James Ian | Pringle, William M. R. | Ward, John (Stoke-upon-Trent) |
| MacVeagh, Jeremiah | Radford, G. H. | Ward, W. Dudley (Southampton) |
| M'Callum, John M. | Raffan, Peter Wilson | Wardle, George J. |
| M'Curdy, C. A. | Rainy, A. Rolland | Waring, Walter |
| McKenna, Rt. Hon. Reginald | Rea, Walter Russell (Scarborough) | Warner, Sir Thomas Courtenay |
| M'Laren, H. D. (Leics.) | Richardson, Albion (Peckham) | Wedgwood, Josiah C. |
| M'Micking, Major Gilbert | Richardson, Thomas (Whitehaven) | White, J. Dundas (Glasgow, Tradeston) |
| Marks, Sir George Croydon | Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln) | White, Sir Luke (York, E.R.) |
| Marshall, Arthur Harold | Roberts, G. H. (Norwich) | White, Patrick (Meath, North) |
| Millar, James Duncan | Roberts, Sir J. H. (Denbighs.) | Whittaker, Rt. Hon. Sir T. P. |
| Molteno, Percy Alport | Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford) | Whyte, A. F. (Perth) |
| Montagu, Hon E. S. | Robertson, John M. (Tyneside) | Wiles, Thomas |
| Mooney, John J. | Roch, Walter F. (Pembroke) | Wilkie, Alexander |
| Morgan, George Hay | Rose, Sir Charles Day | Williams, John (Glamorgan) |
| Morrell, Philip | Rowlands, James | Williamson, Sir Archibald |
| Morton, Alpheus Cleophas | Rowntree, Arnold | Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton) |
| Munro, R. | Runciman, Rt. Hon. Walter | Wood, Rt. Hon. T. McKinnon (Glas.) |
| Munro-Ferguson, Rt. Hon. R. C. | Samuel, Rt. Hon. H. L. (Cleveland) | Young, William (Perth, East) |
| Murray, Capt. Hon. A. C. | Samuel, J. (Stockton-on-Tees) | Yoxall, Sir James Henry |
| Nannetti, Joseph P. | Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel) | |
| Needham, Christopher T. | Seely, Col. Rt. Hon. J. E. B. | |
| Neilson, Francis | Shortt, Edward | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr. W. Jones and Mr. G. Howard. |
| Nolan, Joseph | Simon, Sir John Allsebrook | |
| NOES. | ||
| Agg-Gardner, James Tynte | Goldman, C. S. | Perkins, Walter F. |
| Amery, L. C. M. S. | Goldsmith, Frank | Peto, Basil Edward |
| Anson, Rt. Hon. Sir William R. | Gordon, Hon. John Edward (Brighton) | Pollock, Ernest Murray |
| Archer-Shee, Major M. | Grant, James Augustus | Pryce-Jones, Colonel E. |
| Ashley, W. W. | Gretton, John | Quilter, William Eley C. |
| Astor, Waldorf | Hall, Fred (Dulwich) | Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel |
| Bagot, Lieut.-Colonel J. | Hamersley, Alfred St. George | Ronaldshay, Earl of |
| Baird, John Lawrence | Hamilton, Marquess of (Londonderry) | Rothschild, Lionel de |
| Balcarres, Lord | Harrison-Broadley, H. B. | Rutherford, W. (Liverpool, W. Derby) |
| Banbury, Sir Frederick George | Henderson, Major H. (Berks) | Salter, Arthur Clavell |
| Barlow, Montague (Salford, South) | Hills, John Waller | Sanders, Robert Arthur |
| Bathurst, Charles (Wilts., Wilton) | Hoare, S. J. G. | Sanderson, Lancelot |
| Beach, Hon. Michael Hugh Hicks | Hohler, G. F. | Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.) |
| Benn, Arthur Shirley (Plymouth) | Horner, A. L. | Spear, Sir John Ward |
| Benn, Ion Hamilton (Greenwich) | Houston, Robert Paterson | Starkey, John Ralph |
| Bigland, Alfred | Hunt, Rowland | Staveley-Hill, Henry (Staffordshire) |
| Bird, A. | Jardine, Ernest (Somerset, East) | Stewart, Gersham |
| Boyle, W. L. (Norfolk, Mid) | Jessel, Captain Herbert M. | Swift, Rigby |
| Boyton, James | Joynson-Hicks, William | Sykes, Alan John (Ches., Knutsford) |
| Brassey, H. Leonard Campbell | Kerry, Earl of | Sykes, Mark (Hull, Central) |
| Bridgeman, W. Clive | Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement | Talbot, Lord E. |
| Bull, Sir William James | Larmor, Sir J. | Terrell, G. (Wilts, N.W. |
| Campion, W. R. | Lawson, Hon. H. (T. H'm'ts., Mile End) | Terrell, Henry (Gloucester) |
| Carlile, Sir Edward Hildred | Lonsdale, Sir. John Brownlee | Thomson, W. Mitchell (Down, North) |
| Cassel, Felix | Lyttelton, Hon. J. C. (Droitwich) | Thynne, Lord Alexander |
| Cator, John | Mackinder, H. J. | Tobin, Alfred Aspinall |
| Cautley, Henry Strother | Macmaster, Donald | Touche, George Alexander |
| Cave, George | McNeill, Ronald (Kent, St. Augustine) | Tullibardine, Marquess of |
| Chaloner, Col. R. G. W. | Magnus, Sir Philip | Valentia, Viscount |
| Clive, Captain Percy Arthur | Mills, Hon. Charles Thomas | Ward, Arnold S. (Herts, Watford) |
| Clyde, J. Avon | Morrison-Bell, Capt. E. F. (Ashburton) | Wheler, Granville C. H. |
| Courthope, George Loyd | Morrison-Bell, Major A. C. (Honiton) | Willoughby, Major Hon. Claude |
| Croft, Henry Page | Mount, William Arthur | Wood, John (Stalybridge) |
| Dickson, Rt. Hon. D. S. | Neville, Reginald J. N. | Worthington-Evans, L. |
| Fell, Arthur | Newdegate, F. A. | Yate, Col. C. E. |
| Fisher, Rt. Hon. W. Hayes | Newton, Harry Kottingham | Younger, Sir George |
| Fleming, Valentine | Nicholson. Wm. G. (Petersfield) | |
| Fletcher, John Samuel (Hampstead) | Parker, Sir Gilbert (Gravesend) | |
| Gardner, Ernest | Parkes, Ebenezer | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Sir H. Craik and Col. Burn. |
| Gibbs, George Abraham | Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlington) | |
| Gilmour, Captain John | Peel, Hon. W. R. W. (Taunton) |
Question put, and agreed to.
§ And, it being after Ten of the clock, Mr. SPEAKER, pursuant of Standing Order No. 15, proceeded to put forthwith the questions. That this House doth agree with the Committee in the outstanding Resolutions reported in respect of certain of the Civil Service Estimates, and of the Navy Estimates and the Army Estimates.