HC Deb 14 August 1911 vol 29 cc1574-7
Mr. AUSTEN CHAMBERLAIN

May I ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he can make any statement as to the course of business during the present week?

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

To-morrow is the concluding day in Supply, and the reports of all the remaining Votes will be taken at 10 o'clock. Treasury, Inland Revenue and Office of Works Votes will be placed on the Paper to enable the House to discuss the Road Board, Stamps and Royal Parks.

On Wednesday we propose to take the Second Reading of the Appropriation Bill and Public Works Loans Bill.

On Thursday we shall take the Committee stage of those two Bills and of the Expiring Laws Continuance Bill.

On Friday, the Appropriation Bill, Expiring Laws Continuance Bill, and Public Works Loans Bill, Third Readings, to be followed by the Adjournment Motion.

We also hope in the course of the week to proceed with some of the smaller Bills on the Paper, after consultation with the Noble Lord and the various parties in the; House.

The Committee stage of the Finance Bill will not be taken this week.

It will be a convenience to Members to know that the House will reassemble for the Winter Session on Tuesday, 24th October.

Mr. MORRELL

Will the right hon. Gentleman press forward the Cotton Cloth Factories Bill, which affects hundreds of thousands of people in Lancashire?

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

We will consider that.

Lord HUGH CECIL

Before the House separates for the Adjournment, will the right hon. Gentleman state what business it is intended to pass during the autumn,, and what Bills are to be dropped?

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

I think there is some consultation going on as to that subject, and probably a statement will be made before the Adjournment.

Mr. T. P. O'CONNOR

May I ask the right hon. Gentleman if he can spare a couple of hours for the small remnant of the Copyright Bill?

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

I have left a loophole for what are considered small Bills. I hope it may squeeze through.

Mr. BRADY

May I ask whether it is proposed to take the Telephone Transfer Bill?

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

I think I had better not give any answer about any special Bills. I have referred to the small Bills, and I hope a good many of them may squeeze through.

Mr. BOOTH

May I ask whether the National Insurance Bill will be taken on the first day of the Autumn sitting?

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

Perhaps I had better not say anything now until we come to the Motion for Adjournment.

Mr. C. E. PRICE

May I ask whether it is the intention to devote portion of the time to the consideration of the Scottish Estimates, because when the Vote was taken last time the various reports were not published, and a large portion of the time was taken up by a private Bill.

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

As my hon. Friend knows very well, the Government have no control or responsibility with regard to private Bills. It is no fault of the Government that time was taken up with the discussion of a private Bill.

Mr. C. E. PRICE

As the Scottish Estimates were taken before the various reports were published, and as we were unable to consider various items arising out of the Estimate at the time, will the Government see their way to put the Scottish Estimates down?

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

There is the opportunity of raising any subject on the Second and Third Reading of the Appropriation Bill.

Mr. AUSTEN CHAMBERLAIN

May I press the Chancellor of the Exchequer either himself to make or to ask the Prime Minister to make a statement about the business of the Autumn Session before we come to the Motion for Adjournment? The right hon. Gentleman will, of course, remember that it is very unusual for the House to have arrived at this period without a full statement having been already made. It is only in consequence of the usual Motion not having been made by the Government taking the time of the House.

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

I will call the attention of my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister to the request, which seems to me very reasonable.

Ordered, "That, on this day, notwithstanding anything in Standing Order No. 15, Business other than Business of Supply may be taken before Eleven of the clock." —[The Prime Minister.]

Mr. LLOYD GEORGE

I beg to move, "That the Proceedings in Committee on Navy and Army Expenditure, 1909–10, and in Committee of Ways and Means, be not interrupted this evening under the Standing Order (Sittings of the House), and may be entered upon and proceeded with at any hour, although opposed."

The House divided: Ayes, 108; Noes. 101.

Division No. 321.] AYES. [4.5 p.m.
Abraham, William (Dublin Harbour) Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston S. Greenwood. Granville G. (Peterborough)
Acland, Francis Dyke Clancy, John Joseph Greenwood, Hamar (Sunderland)
Adamson, William Clough, William Guest, Major Hon. C. H. C. (Pembroke)
Ainsworth, John Stirling Clynes, John R. Guest, Hon. Frederick E. (Dorset, E.)
Baker, H. T. (Accrington) Collins, Godfrey P. (Greenock) Gwynn, Stephen Lucius (Galway)
Baker, Joseph Allen (Finsbury, E.) Collins, Stephen (Lambeth) Hackett, John
Balfour, Sir Robert (Lanark) Compton-Rickett, Rt. Hon. Sir J. Hancock, J. G.
Barnes, George N. Condon, Thomas Joseph Harcourt, Rt. Hon. Lewis (Rossendale)
Barry, Redmond John (Tyrone, N.) Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. Harcourt, Robert V. (Montrose)
Beale, W. P. Cotton, William Francis Hardie, J. Keir (Merthyr Tydvil)
Beauchamp, Sir Edward Crumley, Patrick Harvey, T. E. (Leeds, W.)
Beck, Arthur Cecil Cullinan, J. Harvy, W. E. (Derbyshire, N.E.)
Benn, W. (T. Hamlets, St. Geo.) Davies, Ellis William (Eifion) Havelock-Allan, Sir Henry
Bethell, Sir John Henry Davies, Timothy (Lincs., South) Hayden, John Patrick
Birrell, Rt. Hon. Augustine De Forest, Baron Henderson, Arthur (Durham)
Boland, John Pius Delany, William Henry, Sir Charles
Booth, Frederick Handel Denman, Hon. Richard Douglas Higham, John Sharp
Bowerman, Charles W. Donelan, Captain A. Hobhouse, Rt. Hon. Charles E. H.
Brady, P. J. Duffy, William J. Howard, Hon. Geoffrey
Brocklehurst, William B. Duncan, C. (Barrow-in-Furness) Hudson, Walter
Brunner, John F. L. Elibank, Rt. Hon. Master of Hughes, Spencer Leigh
Bryce, J. Annan Essex, Richard Walter Isaacs, Rt. Hon. Sir Rufus
Burke, E. Haviland- Falconer, James Johnson, W.
Burns, Rt. Hon. John Fenwick, Rt. Hon. Charles Jones, Sir D. Brynmor (Swansea)
Burt, Rt. Hon. Thomas Ferens, Thomas Robinson Jones, Edgar B. (Merthyr Tydvil)
Buxton, Rt. Hon. Sydney C. (Poplar) Ffrench, Peter Jones, H. Hadyn (Merioneth)
Byles, Sir William Pollard Flavin, Michael Joseph Jones, William (Carnarvonshire)
Carr-Gomm, H. W. George, Rt. Hon. D. Lloyd Jones, W. S. Glyn- (T. H'mts., Stepney)
Cawley, H. T. (Lancs., Heywood) Gill, A. H. Jowett, Frederick William
Chancellor, Henry George Glanville, H. J. Joyce, Michael
Chapple, Dr. William Allen Goddard, Sir Daniel Ford Keating, Matthew
Kennedy, Vincent Paul Nolan, Joseph Samuel, Rt. Hon. H. L. (Cleveland)
Kilbride, Denis O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny) Samuel, J. (Stockton)
King, Joseph (Somerset, North) O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.) Scanlan, Thomas
Lambert, George (Devon, S. Molton) O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool) Scott, A. MacCallum (Glas., Bridgeton)
Lambert, Richard (Wilts, Crickdale) O'Doherty, Philip Seely, Colonel Rt. Hon. J. E. S.
Law, Hugh A. (Donegal, West) O'Donnell, Thomas Sheehy, David
Lawson, Sir W. (Cumb'rld, Cockerm'th) O'Dowd, John Shortt, Edward
Leach, Charles Ogden, Fred Simon, Sir John Allsebrook
Lewis, John Herbert O'Kelly, James (Roscommon, N.) Smith, Albert (Lancs., Clitheroe)
Logan, John William O'Malley, William Smith, H. B. (Northampton)
Lough, Rt. Hon. Thomas O'Shaughnessy, P. J. Smyth, Thomas F. (Leitrim, S.)
Lundon, Thomas Parker, James (Halifax) Snowden, P.
Lyell, Charles Henry Pearce, Robert (Staffs, Leek) Soames, Arthur Wellesley
Lynch, Arthur Alfred Pearce, William (Limehouse) Strauss, Edward A. (Southwark, West)
Macdonald, J. R. (Leicester) Phillips, John (Longford, S.) Taylor, John W. (Durham)
Macdonald, J. M. (Falkirk Burghs) Pointer, Joseph Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe)
Macnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J. Power, Patrick Joseph Tennant, Harold John
Macpherson, James Ian Price, C. E. (Edinburgh, Central) Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton)
MacVeagh, Jeremiah Priestley, Sir W. E. B. (Bradford, E.) Trevelyan, Charles Philips
M'Callum, John M. Pringle, William M. R. Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander
M'Curdy, C. A. Radford, G. H. Ward, John (Stoke-upon-Trent)
Manfield, Harry Rainy, Adam Rolland Wardle, George J.
Meagher, Michael Rea, Rt. Hon. Russell (South Shields) Warner, Sir Thomas Courtenay
Meehan, Francis E. (Leitrim, N.) Reddy, Michael Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney)
Molteno, Percy Alport Richardson, Thomas (Whitehaven) Webb, H.
Mond, Sir Alfred Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln) Wedgwood, Josiah C.
Montagu, Hon. E. S. Roberts, George H. (Norwich) White, J. Dundas (Glasgow, Tradeston)
Mooney, John J. Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford) White Sir Luke (York, E. R.)
Morrell, Philip Robertson, John M. (Tyneside) White, Patrick (Meath, North)
Morton, Alpheus Cleophas Robinson, Sidney Whyte, A. F. (Perth)
Muldoon, John Roch, Walter F. (Pembroke) Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton)
Munro, Robert Roche, Augustine (Louth) Wood, Rt. Hon. T. McKinnon (Glas.)
Munro-Ferguson, Rt. Hon. R. C. Roche, John (Galway, E.)
Murray, Captain Hon. Arthur C. Rose, Sir Charles Day
Nannetti, Joseph P. Rowlands, James TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Mr. Gulland and Mr. Dudley Ward.
Neilson, Francis Runciman, Rt. Hon. Walter
NOES.
Amery, L. C. M. S. Gardner, Ernest Peto, Basil Edward
Archer-Shee, Major Martin Gibbs, George Abraham Pollock, Ernest Murray
Arkwright, John Stanhope Gilmour, Captain J. Pryce-Jones, Col. E. (M'tgom'y B'ghs.)
Ashley, Wilfrid W. Goldsmith, Frank Rawlinson, John Frederick Peal
Bagot, Lieut.-Colonel J. Gordon, Hon. John Edward (Brighton) Rothschild, Lionel de
Baird, John Lawrence Gwynne, R. S. (Sussex, Eastbourne) Sanders, Robert Arthur
Baker, Sir Randolf L. (Dorset, N.) Hall, Fred (Dulwich) Sanderson, Lancelot
Balcarres, Lord Hamersley, Alfred St. George Smith, Rt. Hon. F. E. (L'p'l, Walton).
Bathurst, Charles (Wilts, Wilton) Hamilton, Lord C. J. (Kensington) Smith, Harold (Warrington)
Benn, Arthur Shirley (Plymouth) Hamilton, Marquess of (Londonderry) Spear, Sir John Ward
Benn, Ion Hamilton (Greenwich) Harrison-Broadley, H. B. Staveley-Hill, Henry (Staffordshire)
Bird, Alfred Henderson, Major H. (Berkshire) Steel-Maitland, A. D.
Boyle, W. Lewis (Norfolk, Mid) Hill-Wood, Samuel Stewart, Gershom
Brassey, H. Leonard Campbell Homer, Andrew Long Sykes, Alan John (Ches., Knutsford)
Bridgeman, W. Clive Houston, Robert Paterson Sykes, Mark (Hull, Central)
Burgoyne, Alan Hughes Jardine, Ernest (Somerset, E.) Talbot, Lord Edmund
Burn, Colonel C. R. Jessel, Captain H. M. Terrell, George (Wilts, N. W.)
Campion, W. R. Kimber, Sir Henry Thorne, William (West Ham)
Carlile, Sir Edward Hildred Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement Thynne, Lord A.
Cassel, Felix Lawson, Hon. H. (T. H'mts., Mile End) Tobin, Alfred Aspinall
Castlereagh, Viscount Lee, Arthur Hamilton Touche, George Alexander
Cautley, H. S. Locker-Lampson, G. (Salisbury) Tryon, Captain George Clement
Cave, George Locker-Lampson, O. (Ramsey) Tullibardine, Marquess of
Cecil, Lord Hugh (Oxford Univ.) Lyttelton, Hon. J. C. (Droitwich) Valentia, Viscount
Chaloner, Col. R. G. W. Macmaster, Donald Ward, A. S. (Herts, Watford)
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. J. A. (Worc'r.) McNeill, Ronald (Kent, St. Augustine) Willoughby, Major Hon. Claude
Chaplin, Rt. Hon. Henry Magnus, Sir Philip Wolmer, Viscount
Craik, Sir Henry Morrison-Bell, Capt. E. F. (Ashburton) Wood, John (Stalybridge)
Cripps, Sir Charles Alfred Morrison-Bell, Major A. C. (Honiton) Worthington-Evans, L.
Croft, Henry Page Mount, William Arthur Yate, Colonel C. E.
Dickson, Rt. Hon. C. Scott Newdegate, F. A. Younger, Sir George
Fell, Arthur Newton, Harry Kottingham
Fisher, Rt. Hon. W. Hayes Nicholson, Wm. G. (Petersfield)
Fletcher, John Samuel (Hampstead) Pease, Herbert Pike (Darlington) TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Mr. Perkins and Mr. Grant.
Forster, Henry William Peel, Hon. W. R. W. (Taunton)