HC Deb 28 July 1910 vol 19 cc2344-5
Mr. CHARLES BATHURST

asked whether any net revenue, after deduction of all outgoings and the whole cost of maintenance and management, has been derived from timber either in the New Forest or the Forest of Dean at any time during the last twenty-five years; and, if so, in what year or years and in which of the two forests was such net revenue obtained, and what was its amount?

Mr. HOBHOUSE

The New Forest is maintained largely as a national playground. It is not possible in the case of either forest to apportion the cost of supervision accurately between the woods and other sources of income, and to ascertain the proper debit representing the value of the land planted.

Mr. CHARLES BATHURST

Can the right hon. Gentleman say whether any income whatever has been received from the forests during the last twenty-five years?

Mr. HOBHOUSE

Undoubtedly income has been received.

Mr. AUSTEN CHAMBERLAIN

Can the right hon. Gentleman give any information as to the commercial success or failure of the planting of the Forest of Dean?

Mr. HOBHOUSE

It is very difficult to give the net revenue, which is what I am asked. I am not asked to give the gross. It is difficult to give the net revenue, because it is impossible to apportion the cost of administration between income from the sale of timber in the wood and the revenue derived from other sources.

Mr. AUSTEN CHAMBERLAIN

Is the difficulty any greater than drawing a distinction between expenditure in the Post Office on telegraph and telephone services?

Mr. HOBHOUSE

The telephone and telegraph services are two distinct operations of a large character, the difference between which is clearly marked, but I do not think that is so in the other case.

Mr. PETO

Ought not the distribution of income be made just as in the case of a well-managed private business?

Mr. HOBHOUSE

It is quite possible to show the gross income, but we are asked to show the net, and we cannot do that for the reason I have explained.