HC Deb 27 April 1910 vol 17 cc417-9
Mr. BURGOYNE

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether he has any information in regard to an agreement between the Governments of Germany and Austria-Hungary whereby, should there be any difficulty in obtaining a grant to cover the cost of their construction, the German Government will purchase from Austria-Hungary the four large armoured ships now building or projected?

The FIRST LORD of the ADMIRALTY (Mr. McKenna)

We have no official information.

Mr. BURGOYNE

asked whether either of the four proposed Austrian battleships have yet been laid down, and, if so, when they were commenced?

Mr. McKENNA

We have no official information.

Mr. REES

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether he has any information that the Stabiliminto Tecnico of Trieste is proceeding with the construction of one or more of the four "Dreadnoughts" for the Austria-Hungarian Government in anticipation of the provision of funds?

Mr. McKENNA

We have no official information.

Mr. ASHLEY

Has not the right hon. Gentleman received reports from our Naval Attaché to Austria-Hungary with reference to this question?

Mr. McKENNA'S

reply was not audible.

Mr. ASHLEY

asked a further question which was also inaudible.

Mr. McKENNA

No, Sir. Official information would be such information as we might receive officially.

Mr. GIBSON BOWLES

May I ask whether he distinguishes between the official information he obtains from his own subordinates and the official information he obtains from foreign Governments, and whether it is only the latter kind he communicates to the House, and not the former?

Mr. McKENNA

On matters affecting foreign Governments I communicate to the House such information as the foreign Governments communicate to me. As regards any information which I receive from our Naval Attachés, I can make no statement.

Sir FORTESCUE FLANNERY

Will the right hon. Gentleman take steps to obtain official information on this matter, which is so very important in regard to our naval defence?

Mr. McKENNA

I can assure the hon. Member that the Admiralty will not be behindhand in obtaining all information.

Mr. CHARLES CRAIG

Am I to understand that he will not give any information to this House which has been received by him from Naval Attaches unless the Naval Attaches have received that information officially from the Governments to which they are accredited?

Mr. McKENNA

No, Sir. I have stated nothing in regard to information in general, but such information as would be only desirable to quote from official sources. I should only quote from official sources.

Mr. ARTHUR LEE

Has the right hon. Gentleman any reason to suppose that the statements which have appeared in newspapers with regard to the commencement of those ships in Austria are, as a matter of fact, incorrect?

Mr. McKENNA

The House, so far as unofficial sources of information, are just as well able to form an opinion as I am. So far as official information, I have given all the official information I have.

Mr. REMNANT

In view of the fact that the so-called unofficial information generally proves to be correct, and is usually in advance of the Admiralty information, will the right hon. Gentleman call for a specific report on these matters?

Mr. McKENNA

I must dispute the statement made by the hon. Gentleman that unofficial information has been in advance of the Admiralty information. The Admiralty, I can assure the hon. Member, are fully informed of all the facts of the case, but I am unable to state to the House any information except such as I have received officially.