HC Deb 20 April 1910 vol 16 cc2192-7

" That in lieu of the duties of Excise now payable on tobacco grown in Ireland, there shall, as from the thirtieth day of April, nineteen hundred and nine, be charged the following duties (that is to say):—

s. d.
Upon tobacco unmanufactured, viz.:
Tobacco containing ten pounds or more of moisture in every one hundred pounds weight thereof the lb. 3 6
Tobacco containing less than ten pounds of moisture in every one hundred pounds weight thereof the lb. 3 11
Upon tobacco manufactured, viz.:
Cavendish or Negrohead manufactured in bond the lb. 4 8

and that duties of Excise at the same rates shall, as from the first day of January, nineteen hundred and ten, be charged on tobacco grown in England or Scotland, and that there shall be charged on a licence to be taken out annually by every person growing, cultivating, or curing tobacco in England or Scotland an Excise Duty of five shillings."

The Committee divided: Ayes, 315; Noes, 232.

Division No. 55.] AYES. [8.15 p.m.
Abraham, William Esslemont, George Birnle Macdonald, J. R. (Leicester)
Addison, Dr. C. Falconer, J. Macdonald, J. M. (Falkirk Burghs)
Agnew, George William Farrell, James Patrick Macnamara, Dr. Thomas J.
Ainsworth, John Stirling Fenwick, Charles MacVeagh, Jeremiah
Alden, Percy Ferens, T. R. M'Callum, John M.
Allen, Charles P. Ferguson. R. C. Munro McKenna, Rt. Hon. Reginald
Anderson, A. Ffrench, Peter M'Laren, F. W. S. (Lines., Spalding)
Armitage, R. Flavin, Michael Joseph Mallet, Charles E.
Ashton, Thomas Gair France, G. A. Manfield, Harry
Asquith, Rt. Hon. Herbert Henry Furness, Sir Christopher Marks, George Croydon
Baker, Joseph A. (Finsbury, E.) Gelder, Sir W. A. Martin, J.
Balfour, Robert (Lanark) Gibson, James P. Masterman, C. F. G.
Barclay, Sir T. Gill, A. H. Meagher, Michael
Barlow, Sir John E. Glanville, H. J. Meehan, Francis E. (Leitrim, N.)
Barnes, G. N. Glover, Thomas Meehan, Patrick A. (Queen's Co.)
Barran, Sir J. (Hawick) Greenwood, G. G. Menzies, Sir Walter
Barry, E. (Cork, S.) Greig, Colonel J. W. Middlebrook, William
Barry, Redmond J. (Tyrone, N.) Grenfell, Cecil Alfred Millar, J. D.
Barton, W. Griffith, Ellis J. (Anglesey) Molloy, M.
Beale, W. P. Gulland, John William Molteno, Percy Alport
Benn, W. (Tower Hamlets, St. Geo.) Gwynn, Stephen Lucius (Galway) Mond, Alfred Moritz
Bentham, George Jackson Hackett, J. Mooney, J. J.
Bethell, Sir J. H. Haldane, Rt. Hon. Richard B. Morgan, G. Hay (Cornwall)
Birrell, Rt. Hon. Augustine Hall, Frederick (Normanton) Morgan, J. Lloyd (Carmarthen)
Black, Arthur W. Hancock, J. G. Morton, Alpheus Cleophas
Boland, John Plus Harcourt, Rt. Hon. Lewis (Rossendale) Muldoon, John
Bowerman, C. W. Hardie, J. Keir (Merthyr Tydvil) Murray, Captain Hon. A. C.
Bowles, T. Gibson Harvey, T. E. (Leeds, W.) Muspratt, M.
Boyle, D. (Mayo, N.) Harvey, W. E. (Derbyshire, N.E.) Nannetti, Joseph P.
Brace, William Harwood, George Neilson, Francis
Brady, P. J. Haslam, James (Derbyshire) Nicholson, Charles N. (Doncaster)
Brigg, Sir John Haslam, Lewis (Monmouth) Nolan, Joseph
Brocklehurst, W. B. Havelock-Allan, Sir Henry Norton, Capt. Cecil W.
Brunner, J. F. L. Haworth, Arthur A. Nugent, Sir Walter Richard
Burke, E. Haviland- Hayden, John Patrick Nussey, Sir Wilians
Burns, Rt. Hon. John Hazleton, Richard Nuttall, Harry
Burt, Rt. Hon. Thomas Helme, Norval Watson O'Brien, Patrick (Kilkenny)
Buxton, C. R. (Devon, Mid) Henderson, Arthur (Durham) O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.)
Buxton, Noel (Norfolk, North) Henderson, J. M. (Aberdeen, W.) O'Connor, T. p. (Liverpool)
Buxton, Rt. Hon. Sydney C. (Poplar) Henry, Charles S. O'Doherty, Philip
Byles, William Pollard Higham, John Sharp O'Donnell, T. (Kerry, W.)
Cameron, Robert Hindle, F. G. O'Dowd, John
Cawley, Sir Frederick (Prestwich) Hobhouse, Rt. Hon. charles E. H. O'Kelly, Edward P. (Wicklow, W.)
Cawley, Harold T. (Heywood) Hodge, John O'Kelly, James (Roscommon, N.)
Chancellor, H. G. Hogan, Michael O'Malley, William
Channing, sir Francis Allston Hooper, A. G. O'Neill, Dr. Charles (Armagh, S.)
Chapple, Dr. W. A. Hope, John Deans (Fife, West) O'Shaughnessy, P. J.
Clancy, John Joseph Home, C. Silvester (Ipswich) Palmer, Godfrey
Clough, William Howard, Hon. Geoffrey Parker, James (Halifax)
Clynes, J. R Hudson, Waiter Pearce, William
Collins, G. P. (Greenock) Hughes, S. L. Pearson, Weetman H. M.
Collins, Sir Wm. J. (St. Pancras, W.) Illingworth, Percy H. Pease, Rt. Hon. Joseph A.
Compton-Rickett, Sir J. Isaacs, Sir Rufus Daniel Philipps, Col. Ivor (Southampton)
Condon, Thomas Joseph Johnson, W. Philipps, Sir Owen C. (Pembroke)
Corbett, A. Cameron (Glasgow) Jones, Edgar (Merthyr Tydvil) Phillips, John (Longford, S.)
Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. Jones, H. Haydn (Merioneth) Pickersgill, Edward Hare
Cory, Sir Clifford John Jones, William (Carnarvonshire) Pirie, Duncan V.
Cowan, W. H. Jowett, F. W. Pointer, Joseph
Craig, Herbert J. (Tynemouth) Joyce, Michael Pollard, Sir George H.
Crawshay-Williams, Eliot Kelly, Edward Power, Patrick Joseph
Crosfield, A. H Kemp, Sir G. Price, C. E. (Edinburgh, Central)
Crossley, Sir W. J. Kennedy, Vincent Paul Price, Sir Robert J. (Norfolk, E.)
Cullinan, J. Kettle, Thomas Michael Priestley, Arthur (Grantham)
Dalziel, Sir James H. (Kirkcaldy) Kilbrlde, Denis Priestley, Sir W. E. B. (Bradford, E.)
Davies, E. William (Elfion) King, J. (Somerset, N.) Pringle, William M. R.
Davies. Sir W. Howell (Bristol, S.) Lambert, George Radford, George Heynes
Davies, M. Vaughan- (Cardigan) Law, Hugh A. (Donegal, W.) Raffan, Peter Wilson
Dawes, J. A. Layland-Barratt, Sir Francis Rainy, A. Rolland
Delany, William Leach, Charles Raphael, Herbert H.
Denman, Hon. Richard Douglas Lehmann, R. C. Rea, Walter Russell
Devlin, Joseph Levy, Sir Maurice Reddy, M.
Dillon, John Lewis, John Herbert Redmond, John E. (Waterford)
Doris, W. Lincoln, Ignatius T. T. Redmond, William (Clare, E.)
Duffy, William J. Lloyd-George, Rt. Hon. David Rees, J. D
Duncan, C. (Barrow-in-Furness) Lough, Rt. Hon. Thomas Rendall, Athelstan
Duncan, J. Hastings (York, Otley) Low, Sir F. (Norwich) Richards, Thomas
Edwards, Enoch Lundon, T. Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln)
Elverston, H. Luttrell, Hugh Fownes Roberts, G. H. (Norwich)
Esmonde, Sir Thomas Lynch, A. A. Roberts, Sir J. H. (Denbighs)
Robertson, Sir G. Scott (Bradford) Taylor, John W. (Durham) White, Sir George (Norfolk)
Robertson, J. M. (Tyneside) Taylor, Theodore C. (Radcliffe) White, J. Dundas (Dumbartonshire)
Roch, Walter F. (Pembroke) Tennant, Harold John White, Sir Luke (York, E.R.)
Roche, Augustine (Cork) Thomas, Abel (Carmarthen, E.) White, Patrick (Meath, North)
Roche, John (Galway, East) Thomas, Sir A. (Glamorgan, E.) Whitehouse, John Howard
Roe, Sir Thomas Thomas, D. A. (Cardiff) Whittaker, Rt. Hon. Sir Thomas P.
Runciman, Rt. Hon. Walter Thomas, J. H. (Derby) Whyte, Alexander F. (Perth)
Samuel, Rt. Hon. H. L. (Cleveland) Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton) Wiles, Thomas
Samuel, J. (Stockton) Thorne, William (West Ham) Wilkie, Alexander
Samuel, S. M. (Whitechapel) Toulmin, George Williams, Aneurin (Plymouth)
Scanlan, Thomas Trevelyan, Charles Philips Williams, J. (Glamorgan)
Schwann, Sir C. E. Twist, Henry Williams, P. (Middlesbrough)
Seddon, J. Ure, Rt. Hon. Alexander Williams, W. Llewelyn (Carmarthen)
Seely, Col., Right Hon. J. E. B. Verney, F. W. Wilson, Hon. G. G. (Hull, W.)
Shackleton, David James Vivian, Henry Wilson, Henry J. (York, W.R.)
Sheehy, David Wadsworth, J. Wilson, John (Durham, Mid)
Sherwell, Arthur James Walker, H. De R. (Leicester) Wilson, J. W. (Worcestershire, H.)
Simon, John Allsebrook Walsh, Stephen Wilson, T. F. (Lanark, N.E.)
Smyth, Thomas F. (Leitrim, S.) Waiters, John Tudor Wilson, W. T. (Westhoughton)
Snowden, P. Walton, Joseph Winfrey, R.
Soares, Ernest J. Ward, John (Stoke-upon-Trent) Wood, T. M'Kinnon (Glasgow)
Spicer, Sir Albert Ward, W. Dudley (Southampton) Young, W. (Perth, E.)
Stanley, Albert (Stalls, N.W.) Warner, Thomas Courtenay T. Younger, W. (Peebles and Selkirk)
Strachey, Sir Edward Wason, Rt. Hon. E. (Clackmannan) Yoxall, Sir James Henry
Summers. James Woolley Wason, John Cathcart (Orkney)
Sutherland, J. E. Waterlow, D. S. TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—Master of Elibank and Mr. Fuller.
Sutton, John E. Watt, Henry A.
NOES.
Adam, Major W. A. Craig, Captain James (Down, E.) Hill, Sir Clement
Anson, Sir William Reynell Craig, Norman (Kent, Thanet) Hillier, Dr. A. P.
Archer-Shee, Major M. Craik, Sir Henry Hills, J. W.
Arkwright, John Stanhope Crean, Eugene Hoare, S. J. G.
Ashley, W. W. Cripps, Sir C. A. Hohler, G. F.
Attenborough, W. A. Croft, H. P. Hope, Harry (Bute)
Bagot, Captain J. Dairymple, Viscount Hope, James Fitzalan (Sheffield)
Baker, Sir R. L. (Dorset, N.) Dalziel, Davison (Brixton) Horner, A. L.
Balcarres, Lord Dickson, Rt. Hon. C. Scott Houston, Robert Paterson
Baldwin, Stanley Dixon, C. H. Hume-Williams, W. E.
Balfour, Rt. Hon. A. J. (City, Lond.) Douglas, Rt. Hon. A. Akers Hunt, Rowland
Banbury, sir Frederick George Du Cros, Alfred (Tower Hamlets, Bow) Hunter, Sir C. R. (Bath)
Baring, Captain Hon. G. V. Du Cros, Arthur P. (Hastings) Jackson, John A. (Whitehaven)
Barnston, H. Duke, H. E. Jardine, E. (Somerset, E.)
Bathurst, Hon. A. B. (Glouc, E.) Dunn, Sir W. H. (Southwark) Jessel, Captain H. M.
Bathurst, Charles (Wilts, Wilton) Eyres-Monsell, B M. Kerry, Earl of
Beach, Hon. Michael Hugh Hicks Faber, George Denison (Clapham) Keswick, William
Beckett, Hon. W. Gervase Falle, B. G. Kimber, Sir Henry
Benn, I. H. (Greenwich) Fell, Arthur King, Sir Henry Seymour (Hull)
Bentinck, Lord H. Cavendish Fisher, W. Hayes Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement
Beresford, Lord C. Fitzroy, Hon. E. A. Kirkwood, J. H. M.
Bird, A. Flannery, Sir J. Fortescue Knight, Capt. E. A.
Boyle, W. L. (Norfolk, Mid) Fleming, Valentine Knott, James
Boyton, J. Fletcher, J. S. Lane-Fox, G. B.
Brackenbury, H. L. Forster, Henry William Law, Andrew Bonar (Dulwich)
Brassey, H. L. C. (N'thamptonshire, N.) Foster, J. K. (Coventry) Lawson, Hon. Harry
Brassey, Capt. R. B. (Banbury) Gastrell. Major W. H. Lee, Arthur H.
Bridgeman, William Clive Gibbs, G. A. Lewisham, Viscount
Brotherton, Edward Allen Gilhooly, James Llewelyn, Venables
Brunskill, G. F. Gilmour, Captain J. Lloyd, G. A.
Bull, Sir William James Goldsmith, Frank Locker-Lampson, O. (Ramsay)
Burdett-Coutts, W. Gooch, Henry Cubitt Lockwood. Rt. Hon. Lt.-Col. A. R.
Butcher, S. H. (Cambridge Univ.) Goulding, Edward Alfred Long, Rt. Hon. Walter
Calley, Colonel T. C. P. Grant, James Augustus Lonsdale, John Brownlee
Campbell, Rt. Hon. J. H. M. Greene, W. R. Lowe, Sir F. W. (Birm., Edgbaston)
Carille, E. Hildred Guiney, P. Lyttelton, Hon. J. C. (Droltwich)
Carson, Rt. Hon. Sir Edward H. Guinness, Hon. W. E. Mackinder, Halford J.
Castlereagh, Viscount Gwynne, R. S. (Sussex, Eastbourne) Macmaster, Donald
Cator, John Haddock, George B. M'Arthur, Charles
Cautley, H. S. Hall, D. B. (Isle of Wight) M'Calmont, Colonel James
Cecil, Evelyn (Aston Manor) Hall, E. Marshall (L'pool, E. Toxteth) Magnus, Sir Philip
Chaloner, Colonel R. G. W. Hambro, Angus Valdemar Mallaby-Deeley, Harry
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. J. A. (Worc'r.) Hamersley, A. St. George Mason, J. F.
Chambers, James Hamilton, Marquess of (Londonderry) Meysey-Thompson, E. C.
Clive, Percy Archer Hardy, Laurence (Kent, Ashford) Mildmay, Francis Bingham
Clyde, J. Avon Harris, H. P. (Paddington, S.) Mills, Hon. Charles Thomas
Coates, Major E. F. Harrison-Broadley, H. B. Mitchell, William Foot
Colefax, H. A. Healy, Maurice (Cork, N.E.) Moore, William
Collings, Rt. Hon. J. (Birmingham) Healy, Timothy Michael Morpeth, Viscount
Cooper, Capt. Bryan (Dublin, S.) Heath, Col. A. H. Morrison, Captain J. A.
Cooper, R. A. (Walsall) Helmsley, Viscount Morrison-Bell, Major A. C.
Courthope, George Loyd Hermon-Hodge, Sir Robert Mount, William Arthur
Craig, Charles Curtis (Antrim, S.) Hickman, Colonel T. Newdegate, F. A.
Newman, John R. P. Ridley, Samuel Forde Thompson, Robert
Newton, Harry Kottingham Roberts, S. (Sheffield, Eccleshall) Thynne, Lord Alexander
Nicholson, Wm. G. (Petersfield) Rolleston, Sir John Tobin, Alfred Aspinall
Nield, Herbert Ronaldshay, Earl of Tryon, Capt. George Clement
Norton-Griffiths, J. (Wednesbury) Royds, Edmund Tullibardine, Marquess of
O'Brien, William (Cork, N.E.) Rutherford, Watson Walker, Colonel W. H. (Lancashire)
O'Donnell, John (Mayo, S.) Salter, Arthur Clavell Walrond, Hon. Lionel
O'Neill, Hon. A. E. B. (Antrim, Mid.) Samuel, Sir Harry (Norwood) Ward, Arnold (Herts, Watford)
Orde-Powlett, Hon. W. G. A. Sanderson, Lancelot Wards, Col. C. E. (Kent, Mid)
Ormsby-Gore, Hon. William Sandys, G. J. (Somerset, Wells) Wheler, Granville C. H.
Paget, Almeric Hugh Sandys, Lieut.-Col. T. M. (Bootle) White, Major G. D. (Lanes., Southport)
Parkes, Ebenezer Sassoon, Sir Edward Albert Williams, Col. R. (Dorset, W.)
Peel, Capt R. F. (Woodbridge) Scott, Sir S. (Marylebone, W.) Willoughby, Major Hon. Claude
Peel, Hon. W. R. W. (Taunton) Sheehan, Daniel Daniel Willoughby de Eresby, Lord
Perkins, Walter F. Stanier, Beville Wilson, A. Stanley (York, E.R.)
Peto, Basil Edward Stanley, Hon. Arthur (Ormskirk) Wolff, Gustav Wilhelm
Pollock, Ernest Murray Stanley, Hon. G. F. (Preston) Wood, John (Stalybridge)
Pretyman, Ernest George Starkey, John R. Worthington-Evans, L. (Colchester)
Proby, Col. Douglas James Staveley-Hill, Henry (Staffordshire) Wortley, Rt. Hon. C. B. Stuart-
Quilter, William Eley C. Steel-Maitland, A. D. Wyndham, Rt. Hon. George
Randles, Sir John Scurrah Stewart, Gershom (Ches., Wirral) Younger, George (Ayr Burghs)
Ratcliff, Major R. F. Stewart, Sir M'T. (Kirkcudbright)
Rawlinson, John Frederick Peel Strauss, Arthur TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—Sir A. Acland-Hood and Viscount Valentia.
Rawson, Colonel R. H Sykes, Alan John
Remnant, James Farquharson Talbot, Lord E.
Rice, Hon. W. Terrell, H. (Gloucester)